Can someone help, I only saw the 9pm slot where pauline died, when the hell did Stacey and Max happen, and how?!?!?! Came totally out of nowhere!
EE: Why have they turned Stacey into a little tart?
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Originally Posted by Emzie21:
“Can someone help, I only saw the 9pm slot where pauline died, when the hell did Stacey and Max happen, and how?!?!?! Came totally out of nowhere!”
“Can someone help, I only saw the 9pm slot where pauline died, when the hell did Stacey and Max happen, and how?!?!?! Came totally out of nowhere!”
The Slaters and the Brannings were all in the Queen Vic after having their Christmas dinners. Max went to the gents and Stacey went in there after him. She gave him all the 'you know you want it' type talk.
While she was in there, Stacey's mum Jean, went over to chat to Bradley because she couldn't understand how or why her daughter had broken up with such a nice lad. Stacey came out and after seeing her mum sitting and talking with Bradley, started mouthing off to him and then everyone in the whole whole pub (the jukebox went cut out and the pub went silent). She gave it all the 'I'm single, come and 'ave a bit' type talk.
She stormed out and went home. Max went after her to calm her down and they ended up having a bit of 'how's your father' in her bedroom.
Last edited by gargleroadside : 26-12-2006 at 10:22
Originally Posted by gargleroadside:
“Why have they turned Stacey into such a little tart? She has always been 'mouthy' but never one to 'put it about' like she is now.
It took ages for Bradley to breakdown the front she puts on and gain her trust. He bought her an expensive dress a while back that she could've worn to his office party but instead she went dressed as a tart.
She's never showed any interest in Max before so why is she so keen on him now?”
“Why have they turned Stacey into such a little tart? She has always been 'mouthy' but never one to 'put it about' like she is now.
It took ages for Bradley to breakdown the front she puts on and gain her trust. He bought her an expensive dress a while back that she could've worn to his office party but instead she went dressed as a tart.
She's never showed any interest in Max before so why is she so keen on him now?”
I think ever since Max comforted her over her pregnancy I new this was going to happen.
EE are the most predictable soap going.
I also sensed Jean eyeing up Minty last night - Nothing surprises me so maybe a new romance with this pair.
Originally Posted by IrishLuckyCharm:
“I also sensed Jean eyeing up Minty last night - Nothing surprises me so maybe a new romance with this pair.”
“I also sensed Jean eyeing up Minty last night - Nothing surprises me so maybe a new romance with this pair.”
I never noticed that. Anyway, Gary would never allow it.
Stacey did look hot in those boots she wore to the Queen Vic...
Last edited by gargleroadside : 27-12-2006 at 20:10
Originally Posted by cussywoo:
“how long do you recon it will be before Charlie is in tears.... again!!”
“how long do you recon it will be before Charlie is in tears.... again!!”
Charlie Slater or Charlie Clements (Bradley)?!
I don't think Stacey's really a tart. It's just an act she puts on. She doesn't really enjoy doing it.
She's like Kat. She's got emotional problems, that make it hard for her to be vulnerable to people. In fear of getting hurt.
And now cause she's been hurt by Bradley, the 'love of her life', she's trying to get over it by going back to the way she was before.
I find it quite sad really!
Even though Stacey is better looking I can't belive the Eastenders producers have just wasted this character and turned her into Kat Slater.
I evan thought her make up had gone a little more orange!
Why do this? Do they think the viewers must me missing Kat so we'll just make another character into her?
I evan thought her make up had gone a little more orange!
Why do this? Do they think the viewers must me missing Kat so we'll just make another character into her?
\i think she's meant to be a mini kat and also that's what Stacey was when she came and she's best at being a tart
Why have Stacey's skirts suddenly got shorter? Why doesn't she (seem to) talk to any one else in the Square except Max?
Originally Posted by gargleroadside:
“Why have Stacey's skirts suddenly got shorter? Why doesn't she (seem to) talk to any one else in the Square except Max?”
“Why have Stacey's skirts suddenly got shorter? Why doesn't she (seem to) talk to any one else in the Square except Max?”
Her clothes change according to what persona she's portraying. The way she is with Bradley is different to the way she is with Max.
Stacey's talking to Max at the moment because it's the storyline.
Stacey creates personas around herself, as was referred to when Jean told the anecdote about Stacey dressing up as a Red Indian; she didn't just pretend to be that for a short period, she immersed herself in it. My theory would be that she creates these personas to escape her depression and sadness. There have been hints, certainly in Lacey Turner's performance (where she checked her make-up in Thursday's ep), but alas not in the often lazy script, that she is doing this to dull the hurt rather than because she actually wants to. It's therapy.
She has alot to be depressed about, Bradley is the tip of a very very big iceberg. The Jean/Sean conflict, the falling out with Ruby, caused by Sean and echoing the situation with Bradley. You look at Stacey's situation as a whole, and it looks even worse than when you look at each individual problem. Her negativity is self-destructive, but understandable.
Max has not slept with Stacey, rather a persona she has created.
Stacey has not turned into Kat, she is pretending to be Kat (if they make this permanent in a lazy bid to create a replacement for Kat then the EE writers will have ruined one of their best characters). If it leads to Stacey becoming more independent, then its good.
It's all about being wanted, and Stacey has created a persona which facilitates the objective of being wanted. When she befriended Ruby the need to be wanted ebbed away. If she were a "slapper" she would have carried on even after befriending Ruby.
Important to remember: Bradley never sincerely said "I love you" to her so its easy for her to think he doesn't, and for people to influence her thinking that way.
BTW I think Max was not remotely supportive of her during the pregnancy, we now know what the true motives behind that "support" were. His not informing Charlie and Mo about the pregnancy, and not going to fetch them after the bust-up with Bradley, suggested to me he only cares about his own family.
What Stacey needs is a new friend more than anything else (if Preeti is not going to be that then what on earth is her purpose on the show?).
She has alot to be depressed about, Bradley is the tip of a very very big iceberg. The Jean/Sean conflict, the falling out with Ruby, caused by Sean and echoing the situation with Bradley. You look at Stacey's situation as a whole, and it looks even worse than when you look at each individual problem. Her negativity is self-destructive, but understandable.
Max has not slept with Stacey, rather a persona she has created.
Stacey has not turned into Kat, she is pretending to be Kat (if they make this permanent in a lazy bid to create a replacement for Kat then the EE writers will have ruined one of their best characters). If it leads to Stacey becoming more independent, then its good.
It's all about being wanted, and Stacey has created a persona which facilitates the objective of being wanted. When she befriended Ruby the need to be wanted ebbed away. If she were a "slapper" she would have carried on even after befriending Ruby.
Important to remember: Bradley never sincerely said "I love you" to her so its easy for her to think he doesn't, and for people to influence her thinking that way.
BTW I think Max was not remotely supportive of her during the pregnancy, we now know what the true motives behind that "support" were. His not informing Charlie and Mo about the pregnancy, and not going to fetch them after the bust-up with Bradley, suggested to me he only cares about his own family.
What Stacey needs is a new friend more than anything else (if Preeti is not going to be that then what on earth is her purpose on the show?).
Originally Posted by IrishLuckyCharm:
“I think ever since Max comforted her over her pregnancy I new this was going to happen.”
“I think ever since Max comforted her over her pregnancy I new this was going to happen.”
I thought it was on the cards from the minute Max first met Stacey coming out of Ruby's, where her and Bradley had been getting it on, wearing nothing but her coat on her way to get some breakfast or something.
He made some comment about liking her shoes (i don't think she was wearing any) and she gave him a saucy look. They subsequently found out about their relationships with Bradley.
Originally Posted by Relugus:
“Stacey creates personas around herself, as was referred to when Jean told the anecdote about Stacey dressing up as a Red Indian; she didn't just pretend to be that for a short period, she immersed herself in it. My theory would be that she creates these personas to escape her depression and sadness. There have been hints, certainly in Lacey Turner's performance (where she checked her make-up in Thursday's ep), but alas not in the often lazy script, that she is doing this to dull the hurt rather than because she actually wants to. It's therapy.
She has alot to be depressed about, Bradley is the tip of a very very big iceberg. The Jean/Sean conflict, the falling out with Ruby, caused by Sean and echoing the situation with Bradley. You look at Stacey's situation as a whole, and it looks even worse than when you look at each individual problem. Her negativity is self-destructive, but understandable.
Max has not slept with Stacey, rather a persona she has created.
Stacey has not turned into Kat, she is pretending to be Kat (if they make this permanent in a lazy bid to create a replacement for Kat then the EE writers will have ruined one of their best characters). If it leads to Stacey becoming more independent, then its good.
It's all about being wanted, and Stacey has created a persona which facilitates the objective of being wanted. When she befriended Ruby the need to be wanted ebbed away. If she were a "slapper" she would have carried on even after befriending Ruby.
Important to remember: Bradley never sincerely said "I love you" to her so its easy for her to think he doesn't, and for people to influence her thinking that way.
BTW I think Max was not remotely supportive of her during the pregnancy, we now know what the true motives behind that "support" were. His not informing Charlie and Mo about the pregnancy, and not going to fetch them after the bust-up with Bradley, suggested to me he only cares about his own family.
What Stacey needs is a new friend more than anything else (if Preeti is not going to be that then what on earth is her purpose on the show?).”
“Stacey creates personas around herself, as was referred to when Jean told the anecdote about Stacey dressing up as a Red Indian; she didn't just pretend to be that for a short period, she immersed herself in it. My theory would be that she creates these personas to escape her depression and sadness. There have been hints, certainly in Lacey Turner's performance (where she checked her make-up in Thursday's ep), but alas not in the often lazy script, that she is doing this to dull the hurt rather than because she actually wants to. It's therapy.
She has alot to be depressed about, Bradley is the tip of a very very big iceberg. The Jean/Sean conflict, the falling out with Ruby, caused by Sean and echoing the situation with Bradley. You look at Stacey's situation as a whole, and it looks even worse than when you look at each individual problem. Her negativity is self-destructive, but understandable.
Max has not slept with Stacey, rather a persona she has created.
Stacey has not turned into Kat, she is pretending to be Kat (if they make this permanent in a lazy bid to create a replacement for Kat then the EE writers will have ruined one of their best characters). If it leads to Stacey becoming more independent, then its good.
It's all about being wanted, and Stacey has created a persona which facilitates the objective of being wanted. When she befriended Ruby the need to be wanted ebbed away. If she were a "slapper" she would have carried on even after befriending Ruby.
Important to remember: Bradley never sincerely said "I love you" to her so its easy for her to think he doesn't, and for people to influence her thinking that way.
BTW I think Max was not remotely supportive of her during the pregnancy, we now know what the true motives behind that "support" were. His not informing Charlie and Mo about the pregnancy, and not going to fetch them after the bust-up with Bradley, suggested to me he only cares about his own family.
What Stacey needs is a new friend more than anything else (if Preeti is not going to be that then what on earth is her purpose on the show?).”
Stacey isnt going to become independant,theyve lined her up to become a drug addict would you believe!!!
Originally Posted by James Lamont:
“Stacy will be the new Janine at this rate!”
“Stacy will be the new Janine at this rate!”
I actually thought that's what she was, originally. I don't like what's going on now, I'd rather she was just an out and out bitch than a pointless tart.
Actually, does anyone know if Ruby is coming back at all, as I think a good storyline would be for her to try and make it up with Stacey (I nearly called her Kat, then!
) and for Stacey to go back to being the total bitch that she used to be to try and fleece Ruby for some of her money. Ruby can then turn into the ruthless underworld Queen that we all know she's capable of. Stacey can then have to make ammends by working for Ruby, and perhaps even joining in the business. That line of thinking has a lot of possiblities. I really do like the idea of a ruthless underworld queen in the East End. I'm sure there must be one somewere...Oh, and when I say underworld Queen, I'm not talking about Reggie Kray
Last edited by pammi_i : 09-01-2007 at 17:31
Originally Posted by pammi_i:
“I actually thought that's what she was, originally. I don't like what's going on now, I'd rather she was just an out and out bitch than a pointless tart.
Actually, does anyone know if Ruby is coming back at all, as I think a good storyline would be for her to try and make it up with Stacey (I nearly called her Kat, then! ) and for Stacey to go back to being the total bitch that she used to be to try and fleece Ruby for some of her money. Ruby can then turn into the ruthless underworld Queen that we all know she's capable of. Stacey can then have to make ammends by working for Ruby, and perhaps even joining in the business. That line of thinking has a lot of possiblities. I really do like the idea of a ruthless underworld queen in the East End. I'm sure there must be one somewere...
Oh, and when I say underworld Queen, I'm not talking about Reggie Kray”
“I actually thought that's what she was, originally. I don't like what's going on now, I'd rather she was just an out and out bitch than a pointless tart.
Actually, does anyone know if Ruby is coming back at all, as I think a good storyline would be for her to try and make it up with Stacey (I nearly called her Kat, then!
) and for Stacey to go back to being the total bitch that she used to be to try and fleece Ruby for some of her money. Ruby can then turn into the ruthless underworld Queen that we all know she's capable of. Stacey can then have to make ammends by working for Ruby, and perhaps even joining in the business. That line of thinking has a lot of possiblities. I really do like the idea of a ruthless underworld queen in the East End. I'm sure there must be one somewere...Oh, and when I say underworld Queen, I'm not talking about Reggie Kray
”
Rubys gone good again and joined "the Bill!".
Originally Posted by nigella harman:
“Stacey isnt going to become independant,theyve lined her up to become a drug addict would you believe!!!”
“Stacey isnt going to become independant,theyve lined her up to become a drug addict would you believe!!!”
What source did you get that from?!
Originally Posted by Joy2286:
“I have a feeling it was from The Times Online but someone posted it on EE Online”
“I have a feeling it was from The Times Online but someone posted it on EE Online”
Oh right. Is that quite reliable?!
How do you reckon she gets into it?! You don't think it's that Rhys guy do you?!
There are many, many rumours which circulate and some of them are true, while most are false (Ruby/Bradley, Stacey having a fling with Deano, Jean becoming a regular character (perhaps Harwood wanted that and Santer didn't) were all widely rumoured and in many cases assumed to be true. The Ruby rumour in particular was widely believed to be innevitable yet never happened).
A possible future storyline would be Sean setting up Stacey with one of his army buddies. If I posted this idea in a particular way, on various forums and chat rooms etc, it would become "rumour" and would quickly gain currency.
Considering the Max situation ends in a mess, I doubt Stacey would repeat that error (she starts to feel heavy guilt next week). Most likely she will swear off blokes and focus on Jean and Sean, or just sleep around a bit.
Bradley has only said "I love you" once, and has told Stacey that the one occasion he did say it was a lie. Ergo Stacey surmises from this the perfectly logical conclusion (even if it is wrong, its still logical) that Bradley never loved her at all. Her perception is that he conned her right from the start.
Perception is what defines human behaviour.
The problem with the Stax storyline is that it is contrived in many ways (Tanyas behaviour towards Stacey is a contrivence if ever I saw one, the two women have never got on at all), and has been lazily written. Like Pat/Patrick and Jane/Grant its littered with incidents which don't fit the characters.
A possible future storyline would be Sean setting up Stacey with one of his army buddies. If I posted this idea in a particular way, on various forums and chat rooms etc, it would become "rumour" and would quickly gain currency.
Considering the Max situation ends in a mess, I doubt Stacey would repeat that error (she starts to feel heavy guilt next week). Most likely she will swear off blokes and focus on Jean and Sean, or just sleep around a bit.
Bradley has only said "I love you" once, and has told Stacey that the one occasion he did say it was a lie. Ergo Stacey surmises from this the perfectly logical conclusion (even if it is wrong, its still logical) that Bradley never loved her at all. Her perception is that he conned her right from the start.
Perception is what defines human behaviour.
The problem with the Stax storyline is that it is contrived in many ways (Tanyas behaviour towards Stacey is a contrivence if ever I saw one, the two women have never got on at all), and has been lazily written. Like Pat/Patrick and Jane/Grant its littered with incidents which don't fit the characters.
Originally Posted by Relugus:
“There are many, many rumours which circulate and some of them are true, while most are false (Ruby/Bradley, Stacey having a fling with Deano, Jean becoming a regular character (perhaps Harwood wanted that and Santer didn't) were all widely rumoured and in many cases assumed to be true. The Ruby rumour in particular was widely believed to be innevitable yet never happened).
A possible future storyline would be Sean setting up Stacey with one of his army buddies. If I posted this idea in a particular way, on various forums and chat rooms etc, it would become "rumour" and would quickly gain currency.
Considering the Max situation ends in a mess, I doubt Stacey would repeat that error (she starts to feel heavy guilt next week). Most likely she will swear off blokes and focus on Jean and Sean, or just sleep around a bit.
Bradley has only said "I love you" once, and has told Stacey that the one occasion he did say it was a lie. Ergo Stacey surmises from this the perfectly logical conclusion (even if it is wrong, its still logical) that Bradley never loved her at all. Her perception is that he conned her right from the start.
Perception is what defines human behaviour.
The problem with the Stax storyline is that it is contrived in many ways (Tanyas behaviour towards Stacey is a contrivence if ever I saw one, the two women have never got on at all), and has been lazily written. Like Pat/Patrick and Jane/Grant its littered with incidents which don't fit the characters.”
“There are many, many rumours which circulate and some of them are true, while most are false (Ruby/Bradley, Stacey having a fling with Deano, Jean becoming a regular character (perhaps Harwood wanted that and Santer didn't) were all widely rumoured and in many cases assumed to be true. The Ruby rumour in particular was widely believed to be innevitable yet never happened).
A possible future storyline would be Sean setting up Stacey with one of his army buddies. If I posted this idea in a particular way, on various forums and chat rooms etc, it would become "rumour" and would quickly gain currency.
Considering the Max situation ends in a mess, I doubt Stacey would repeat that error (she starts to feel heavy guilt next week). Most likely she will swear off blokes and focus on Jean and Sean, or just sleep around a bit.
Bradley has only said "I love you" once, and has told Stacey that the one occasion he did say it was a lie. Ergo Stacey surmises from this the perfectly logical conclusion (even if it is wrong, its still logical) that Bradley never loved her at all. Her perception is that he conned her right from the start.
Perception is what defines human behaviour.
The problem with the Stax storyline is that it is contrived in many ways (Tanyas behaviour towards Stacey is a contrivence if ever I saw one, the two women have never got on at all), and has been lazily written. Like Pat/Patrick and Jane/Grant its littered with incidents which don't fit the characters.”
Very true.
they're destroying Stacey, i really hope they turn her back into what she used to be, she would never have had an affair with Max a few months ago, as she always used to slag people off who had affairs.
Originally Posted by keith-b:
“Why does Eastenders never have anything nice happen ? Turning Stacey into a drunken tart and Pauline into a bitter and twisted old women is just depressing
They killed off Dennis (junior) leaving Sharon pregnant and no-one ever seems to be able to live happily in the square.
”
“Why does Eastenders never have anything nice happen ? Turning Stacey into a drunken tart and Pauline into a bitter and twisted old women is just depressing
They killed off Dennis (junior) leaving Sharon pregnant and no-one ever seems to be able to live happily in the square.
”
That's what I find so annoying at the moment. I'm not a Corrie watcher in general, but whenever there's a strong story of misery on Corrie, everyone else is getting on with their lives and there's a bit of good news to balance it. The constant diet of misery (except possibly for Billy and Honey) is just too much and it's a complete turnoff. We've got Sonia and Martin destroying each other, Max and Stacey having an affair that's bound to lead to disaster, Sean the psychopath about to destroy Bradley's relationship, Shirley the hatchet-face messing up Kevin and his kids, Dawn the blackmailer and her "surrogate" baby - there must be someone there who's having some good news, but we never see them.
why is it , if a male charachter sleeps with loads of ppl, nobody bats a eyelid, but when a female charachter does, shes a slapper??? what about max?
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