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Old 31-12-2006, 13:52
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Will Tiscali TV be available all over the UK? Will it be better than BT Vision?
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Old 31-12-2006, 13:56
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So at the moment is there any news on new channels etc???

I suppose we will all be getting letters in the coming weeks from Tiscali?
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Old 01-01-2007, 14:52
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Originally Posted by StevenGray16
Will Tiscali TV be available all over the UK? Will it be better than BT Vision?
BT Vision doesn't look very impressive so far. Its more expensive, needs freeview reception and has CAPPED TV downloads
Nobody has it installed yet, though.
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Old 01-01-2007, 15:15
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I agree, BT Vision looks pretty cack from what information I can gleam from their website. Its Freeview with a VOD service. I would rather have a PVR! Films on demand is OK but I could just sign up to Love Film for the same extra cost.
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:55
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Originally Posted by TheNinjaPirate
I agree, BT Vision looks pretty cack from what information I can gleam from their website. Its Freeview with a VOD service. I would rather have a PVR! Films on demand is OK but I could just sign up to Love Film for the same extra cost.
BT Vision is a PVR. (named the V-Box)
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:28
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With HDMI output as well!
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:07
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A bit of info, I'm not sure what's known and not as I've not been following tiscali tv:

It's a trial which is available on a trial basis to select customers at 32 telephone exchanges across London, prior to a full UK launch scheduled to take place later this year.

At launch, Tiscali TV offers around 80 TV channels, including E4, More 4, BBC Three and Four, Five US, ITV1 to 4, MTV, FX, Paramount Comedy and the Cartoon Network. It also offers over 6,000 hours of VOD programming, including a catch-up service that offers primetime BBC shows that have been broadcast over the past week; a music video service that features over 5,000 titles; 1,000 m*ovies; and complete series of a number of popular TV shows, including "Spooks," "Futurama," and "Sex and the City."

So sounds a lot better than btvision, but that's not surprising considering the homechoice background.
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:51
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From that description above it looks like all they have done is allow "selected Tiscali users" to access the Homechoice Service over Tiscali's connection.

I wonder what their box looks like?
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Old 02-01-2007, 13:05
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Originally Posted by hxbro
A bit of info, I'm not sure what's known and not as I've not been following tiscali tv:

It's a trial which is available on a trial basis to select customers at 32 telephone exchanges across London, prior to a full UK launch scheduled to take place later this year.

At launch, Tiscali TV offers around 80 TV channels, including E4, More 4, BBC Three and Four, Five US, ITV1 to 4, MTV, FX, Paramount Comedy and the Cartoon Network. It also offers over 6,000 hours of VOD programming, including a catch-up service that offers primetime BBC shows that have been broadcast over the past week; a music video service that features over 5,000 titles; 1,000 m*ovies; and complete series of a number of popular TV shows, including "Spooks," "Futurama," and "Sex and the City."

So sounds a lot better than btvision, but that's not surprising considering the homechoice background.
All you've done these is give a description of exactly what HC already is!

Sounds to me like Tiscali is going to slap their name all over the HC brand and then offer it around as if it were their invention to rival BT Vision!

So prob will see no changes and just a new name "TISCALI TV" how very sad!

No new boxes nothing!

Oh well, best start shopping around for my new TV service cause I doubt they will be honouring my 4mths free!
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Old 02-01-2007, 15:18
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I've done an Altavista search and found

http://www.tiscali-resellers.co.uk/ - Paragraph 6 sets out the new Service "from March 2007" - still looks like a rebadged Homechoice (who are even mentioned by name). I note as well they see VOD as the strongest selling point.

I also found the following from last November on the PC Advisor Forum http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/in...2390&forumid=1

NEW! FREE line rental for Tiscali customers in 2007

We’re pleased to tell you that from early next year we’ll be offering you FREE telephone line rental and local and national calls with your Broadband.

For just £19.99 a month you'll get:

Unlimited Broadband (up to 8Mb)
Free local and national calls
Free telephone line rental


This means you’ll save around £132 a year alone in line rental, PLUS additional savings on your broadband and phone bills and a total saving of over £220 a year compared with BT’s equivalent package!

And that's not all - we'll also soon be bringing you some amazing value digital TV bundle packages. With Tiscali TV you'll be able to watch 1,000 movies on-demand every month and enjoy the best digital TV channels. Catch up on all your favourite shows from Friends on E4 to South Park on Paramount Comedy, there's always something you'll want to watch. And, if that's not enough, video on-demand lets you stop, rewind, pause or fast-forward while watching a selection of your favourite TV shows, movies and music videos, any time you want.

So with just one package from Tiscali, you can revolutionise the way you watch TV, use the web and make phone calls - and all for one great price!

For all these packages you keep the same telephone number and you will need to live in a Tiscali network area to be eligible. We'll be keeping you regularly informed by email about these exciting new offers, so look out for emails from us.

Remember you can change your Tiscali package at any time in the My Account area of the Tiscali website.

Kind regards
Mary Turner
CEO
Tiscali UK


Confusingly they also use the name "Tiscali TV" for their Clips Portal Page - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/broadband/tv/about.html
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Old 02-01-2007, 16:06
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Its a real shame!

It is quite clear that Tiscali TV as I said above will be nothing more that a re-named HC!!!!!!!!!

No PVR and nothing new! Maybe a little cheaper but hey i'd rather pay that little extra and get a better service.

HC has been and still is a glorified FREEVIEW service!

A PVR box would change everything! Get rid of rubbish Replay as it is not needed and use that extra bandwidth for more interesting VOD channels!

But of course as it is the world of making money all Tiscali will do is stick their badge on the website and start taking the money! Not to mention prob cutting jobs!

A shame! A crying shame!
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Old 02-01-2007, 16:23
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As far as I am aware current HC service with current HC customers is the so called "trial"
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Old 02-01-2007, 16:26
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Interesting article from the start of december http://www.informatm.com/newt/l/fmcv...id=20017389376
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Old 02-01-2007, 21:05
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Have to agree with you DrinkingBuddy. I too found the said article over the holiday weekend when trying to get some sort of lead on what plans ahead may be.

The fact that the white label service is being offered to NTL:Telewest (and soon to be Virgin Media with all its added marketing clout) and that discussions had been held with BSkyB, (who must be eager to develop its 'Sky by Wire' service to attract extra subscribers) could be very positive for us 'trailblazers' who have taken the full IPTV route and been left wondering "what next?" after the saga of HC's takeover/partnership.

Now, with HC/Tiscali IPTV providing a 'backbone' for the major players to potentially take their product to every phone subscriber in the land, perhaps we will benefit from increases in content, more VOD, access to all BSkyB channels... and a value-for-money product ourselves!!
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Old 02-01-2007, 21:11
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Tiscali tv! Now that is a concept I would find interesting! Probably as poorly run as their broadband.
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Old 02-01-2007, 22:16
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at least instead of paying in total £42.99 a month for 8 meg , line rental and free calls i'll soon be paying only 19.99 and to me thats gotta be good, as for those judging tiscali as poor service i remember subscribing to them back when 512kb was the max and they were the best isp around.
they may have got lost a little on the way but i certainly wouldnt put them below what hc are currently giving me for my £££ and look forward to the new Tiscali rebranding and packages.
having sky TV ive never been interested in what HC offered ever since i cancelled the TV package over a year ago with them, i know it hasnt improved much in that time yet being billed for what amounts to freeview with some vod really irks so this changeover will benefit the likes of myself and those who arent interested in the tv side of things. and for those that ask if i only want broadband why stay with HC ive answerted that before. where i live the only other options are sky ( goddamn awful BB, or bulldog .. say no more)
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:41
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HC have a hell of a lot more to offer over Freeview. Eurosport, CNN, Discovery channels etc and all the On Demand and Replay. It is better than Freeview+Top-Up TV (as it was).
BT Vision IS Freeview plus VOD, very little replay.

Interesting that they are also talking to NTL to offer the service outside of cable area's. The IPTV service might gain from some NTL Sky channels, Sky 1 for instance.
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Old 03-01-2007, 19:00
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The guy I spoke to in HC CS said that Tiscali TV would be quite separate from Homechoice at first (although I'm sure most things will be the same), and it would then be likely that the two would be amalgamated at a later date.
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