Surround sound WITH a dvd recorder?

phil_the_moose · 02-01-2007, 11:58

Hi. At the moment we have a "home cinema" type Pioneer DVD player with the usual 5 small speakers and a big box thing (yes, I know I'm not qualified to type here!) Anyway, it's about 8 years old and has started to go wrong and I'm looking to replace it with a DVD recorder.

Do any of them give anything like the surround sound that we get from our current system, or is that wishful thinking? I know that all the manufacturers claim they give that "virtual" surround sound, but we have got a Hitachi tv that claims that, and it doesn't sound anything like the full system. I'm not looking to spend an absolute fortune, and am not bothering with that HD stuff (blu-ray or whatever) but the sound is important.

Any advice would be gratefully received. Ta, Moose.

niall campbell · 02-01-2007, 12:30

what do you need a dvd-rec for?

not a daft as you think

have you sky? camcorder?

niall campbell · 02-01-2007, 12:40

you cant get one at the moment. get one with a hard drive and then you record the programme without burning it to disc. then simply delete it or store it.

sony rdr-hxd860 for me with 160gb for me

you can send sound through your existing dvd player for surround sound or buy sony str-da1200es to match and enjoy the sound

jer1956 · 02-01-2007, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall campbell

you can send sound through your existing dvd player for surround sound or buy sony str-da1200es to match and enjoy the sound

The problem is that most of these integrated DVD/Surround Amps only decode DVD's, not surround from external sources.

leaky5 · 02-01-2007, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall campbell

you cant get one at the moment. get one with a hard drive and then you record the programme without burning it to disc. then simply delete it or store it.

LG do 2 or 3 with HDD and recordable DVD.

http://uk.lge.com/proddivergent.do?a...ategory_level=

Scorpio · 02-01-2007, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_the_moose

Do any of them give anything like the surround sound that we get from our current system, or is that wishful thinking?

I thought I had seen one and this one from Panasonic would do what you ask. It's currently available at Unbeatable for £483.

Personally, i would look for a reasonable DVD recorder, nice AV amp and a set of speakers but it depends on budget of course.

Good luck.
Rgds,
Scorp

niall campbell · 02-01-2007, 22:59

sony for me

Scorpio · 02-01-2007, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall campbell

sony for me

but you said they didnt do one in post #3?

Buelligan · 02-01-2007, 23:09

Pioneer DVR with 160Gb harddisk for me.

Scorpio · 02-01-2007, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_the_moose

Hi. At the moment we have a "home cinema" type Pioneer DVD player with the usual 5 small speakers and a big box thing (yes, I know I'm not qualified to type here!) Anyway, it's about 8 years old and has started to go wrong and I'm looking to replace it with a DVD recorder.

Do any of them give anything like the surround sound that we get from our current system, or is that wishful thinking? I know that all the manufacturers claim they give that "virtual" surround sound, but we have got a Hitachi tv that claims that, and it doesn't sound anything like the full system. I'm not looking to spend an absolute fortune, and am not bothering with that HD stuff (blu-ray or whatever) but the sound is important.

Any advice would be gratefully received. Ta, Moose.

You havent said what bit is going wrong - is it the DVD playing or the amp part? If the amp is Ok and it accepts inputs from external sources, buy either a twin tumer PVR with large HDD and connect this up for surround sound or get a Freeview DVDR (with/without) Hdd and connect this.

The decision really comes down to you wanting to do time shifting (PVR) or record/archive longterm (DVDR).

Rgds,
Scorp

phil_the_moose · 04-01-2007, 01:46

Hi all, thanks for all the hints and tips, sorry I'm not as quick at replying as you lot are!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpio

You havent said what bit is going wrong - is it the DVD playing or the amp part?

The sound has started skipping or hanging badly on several discs including brand new ones, I've tried a lens cleaner and it's made no difference, and as it's getting old I thought it might be beyond economic repair and it would be worth looking around for a replacement.

We've got Sky+, albeit only the little one, but I would like to be able to archive some of that stuff to disc as and when we fancy it.

Cheers again for all your help folks, Moose

thms · 04-01-2007, 01:58

http://www.dvdrecorderworld.com/reviewlist.php

niall campbell · 04-01-2007, 11:32

no manufactor does a dvd-rec with surround sound built in. its just I would choose sony.

leaky5 · 04-01-2007, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall campbell

no manufactor does a dvd-rec with surround sound built in. its just I would choose sony.

Niall, Have you not looked at some of the links on this thread ? At least 2 of them are for DVD recorders with integrated surround sound.

thms · 04-01-2007, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaky5

Niall, Have you not looked at some of the links on this thread ? At least 2 of them are for DVD recorders with integrated surround sound.

i think that is for playback only.

leaky5 · 05-01-2007, 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by thms

i think that is for playback only.

Both the LG's hav an opitcal input, so I would expect them to accept an external device.

niall campbell · 05-01-2007, 12:24

oops my apologies im out of date.

phil_the_moose · 05-01-2007, 20:29

Thanks again for all the input folks, it was dead useful and I can't believe how much info people came up with so quickly. I'm pretty sure I've found what I'm after now, bearing in mind (unfortunately) what I can afford to spend...

I was looking at the Panasonic SCRT30EBS, but I have to confess we thought it looked terrible, a bit like a chunky betamax vcr from the 70's (that's shown my age, and I hope I haven't offended anyone who's got one!) I think I'm going to go for the LG LH-RH361SE. It's got a 160GB HDD and will read and write on just about any DVD, and unlike it's big brother the 760IA it's got little speakers (still 300w I think) so the missus won't be moaning about me taking over the sitting room!

I'm sure there will be a few peole screaming "LG?" at the screen in disbelief - I wasn't sure myself to start with, but they seem to have done ok on the reviews I looked at, and I have to be able to pay for it as well.

Anyway, sorry if that rattled on a bit, just wanted to say thanks and let you know what I'd gone for. Cheers, Moose.

Nigel Goodwin · 05-01-2007, 20:34

Don't place all your eggs in one basket!.

Buy a DVD recorder and a separate surround sound amp, far better idea!.

02-01-2007, 11:58	#1
phil_the_moose Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 24	Surround sound WITH a dvd recorder? Hi. At the moment we have a "home cinema" type Pioneer DVD player with the usual 5 small speakers and a big box thing (yes, I know I'm not qualified to type here!) Anyway, it's about 8 years old and has started to go wrong and I'm looking to replace it with a DVD recorder. Do any of them give anything like the surround sound that we get from our current system, or is that wishful thinking? I know that all the manufacturers claim they give that "virtual" surround sound, but we have got a Hitachi tv that claims that, and it doesn't sound anything like the full system. I'm not looking to spend an absolute fortune, and am not bothering with that HD stuff (blu-ray or whatever) but the sound is important. Any advice would be gratefully received. Ta, Moose.

02-01-2007, 12:30	#2
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	what do you need a dvd-rec for? not a daft as you think have you sky? camcorder?

02-01-2007, 12:40	#3
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	you cant get one at the moment. get one with a hard drive and then you record the programme without burning it to disc. then simply delete it or store it. sony rdr-hxd860 for me with 160gb for me you can send sound through your existing dvd player for surround sound or buy sony str-da1200es to match and enjoy the sound

02-01-2007, 14:44	#4
jer1956 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,106	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell you can send sound through your existing dvd player for surround sound or buy sony str-da1200es to match and enjoy the sound The problem is that most of these integrated DVD/Surround Amps only decode DVD's, not surround from external sources.

02-01-2007, 15:26	#5
leaky5 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 297	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell you cant get one at the moment. get one with a hard drive and then you record the programme without burning it to disc. then simply delete it or store it. LG do 2 or 3 with HDD and recordable DVD. http://uk.lge.com/proddivergent.do?a...ategory_level=

02-01-2007, 15:36	#6
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	Quote: Originally Posted by phil_the_moose Do any of them give anything like the surround sound that we get from our current system, or is that wishful thinking? I thought I had seen one and this one from Panasonic would do what you ask. It's currently available at Unbeatable for £483. Personally, i would look for a reasonable DVD recorder, nice AV amp and a set of speakers but it depends on budget of course. Good luck. Rgds, Scorp

02-01-2007, 22:59	#7
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	sony for me

02-01-2007, 23:05	#8
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell sony for me but you said they didnt do one in post #3?

02-01-2007, 23:09	#9
Buelligan Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Forest/ish Posts: 330	Pioneer DVR with 160Gb harddisk for me.

02-01-2007, 23:10	#10
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	Quote: Originally Posted by phil_the_moose Hi. At the moment we have a "home cinema" type Pioneer DVD player with the usual 5 small speakers and a big box thing (yes, I know I'm not qualified to type here!) Anyway, it's about 8 years old and has started to go wrong and I'm looking to replace it with a DVD recorder. Do any of them give anything like the surround sound that we get from our current system, or is that wishful thinking? I know that all the manufacturers claim they give that "virtual" surround sound, but we have got a Hitachi tv that claims that, and it doesn't sound anything like the full system. I'm not looking to spend an absolute fortune, and am not bothering with that HD stuff (blu-ray or whatever) but the sound is important. Any advice would be gratefully received. Ta, Moose. You havent said what bit is going wrong - is it the DVD playing or the amp part? If the amp is Ok and it accepts inputs from external sources, buy either a twin tumer PVR with large HDD and connect this up for surround sound or get a Freeview DVDR (with/without) Hdd and connect this. The decision really comes down to you wanting to do time shifting (PVR) or record/archive longterm (DVDR). Rgds, Scorp

04-01-2007, 01:46	#11
phil_the_moose Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 24	Hi all, thanks for all the hints and tips, sorry I'm not as quick at replying as you lot are! Quote: Originally Posted by Scorpio You havent said what bit is going wrong - is it the DVD playing or the amp part? The sound has started skipping or hanging badly on several discs including brand new ones, I've tried a lens cleaner and it's made no difference, and as it's getting old I thought it might be beyond economic repair and it would be worth looking around for a replacement. We've got Sky+, albeit only the little one, but I would like to be able to archive some of that stuff to disc as and when we fancy it. Cheers again for all your help folks, Moose

04-01-2007, 01:58	#12
thms Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 56,818	http://www.dvdrecorderworld.com/reviewlist.php

04-01-2007, 11:32	#13
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	no manufactor does a dvd-rec with surround sound built in. its just I would choose sony.

04-01-2007, 12:36	#14
leaky5 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 297	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell no manufactor does a dvd-rec with surround sound built in. its just I would choose sony. Niall, Have you not looked at some of the links on this thread ? At least 2 of them are for DVD recorders with integrated surround sound.

04-01-2007, 21:29	#15
thms Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 56,818	Quote: Originally Posted by leaky5 Niall, Have you not looked at some of the links on this thread ? At least 2 of them are for DVD recorders with integrated surround sound. i think that is for playback only.

05-01-2007, 10:27	#16
leaky5 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 297	Quote: Originally Posted by thms i think that is for playback only. Both the LG's hav an opitcal input, so I would expect them to accept an external device.

05-01-2007, 12:24	#17
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	oops my apologies im out of date.

05-01-2007, 20:29	#18
phil_the_moose Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 24	Thanks again for all the input folks, it was dead useful and I can't believe how much info people came up with so quickly. I'm pretty sure I've found what I'm after now, bearing in mind (unfortunately) what I can afford to spend... I was looking at the Panasonic SCRT30EBS, but I have to confess we thought it looked terrible, a bit like a chunky betamax vcr from the 70's (that's shown my age, and I hope I haven't offended anyone who's got one!) I think I'm going to go for the LG LH-RH361SE. It's got a 160GB HDD and will read and write on just about any DVD, and unlike it's big brother the 760IA it's got little speakers (still 300w I think) so the missus won't be moaning about me taking over the sitting room! I'm sure there will be a few peole screaming "LG?" at the screen in disbelief - I wasn't sure myself to start with, but they seem to have done ok on the reviews I looked at, and I have to be able to pay for it as well. Anyway, sorry if that rattled on a bit, just wanted to say thanks and let you know what I'd gone for. Cheers, Moose.

05-01-2007, 20:34	#19
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Don't place all your eggs in one basket!. Buy a DVD recorder and a separate surround sound amp, far better idea!.

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