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Old 21-11-2007, 16:32
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1. Heroes-BBC3-1,194,000
2. Secret Diary Of A Call Girl-ITV2-1,194,000
3. Ford Super Sunday-SKY SPORTS ONE-1,041,000
4. Live Ford Football Special Match-SKY SPORTS ON-981,000
5. Spooks-BBC3-867,000
6. Eastenders-BBC3-862,000
7. Bones-SKY ONE-848,000
8. FILM: Bridget Jones-Edge Of Reason-ITV2-805,000
9. The Simpsons-SKY ONE-793,000
10. Home & Away-FIVE LIFE-775,000

PLACES IN TOP 10
BBC3-3
SKY SPORTS ONE-2
ITV2-2
SKY ONE-2
FIVE LIFE-1
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Old 21-11-2007, 18:12
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An update of the top shows of the year (so far):

1. Rugby World Cup 2007 20/10/07 ITV1 - 13.13m
2. The Vicar of Dibley 01/01/07 BBC1 - 13.08m
= Coronation Street 15/01/07 ITV1 - 13.08m
4. Concert For Diana 01/07/07 BBC1 - 12.22m
5. Britain's Got Talent 17/06/07 ITV1 - 11.58m
6. EastEnders 01/01/07 BBC1 - 10.96m
7. Doc Martin 05/11/07 ITV1 - 10.37m
8. Dancing on Ice 17/03/07 ITV1 - 10.04m
9. The X Factor 18/08/07 ITV1 - 9.79m
10. Comic Relief - The Big One BBC1 16/03/07 - 9.73m

11. Strictly Come Dancing 10/11/07 BBC1 - 9.65m
12. Waking the Dead 07/01/07 BBC1 - 9.51m
13. Children in Need 16/11/07 BBC1 - 9.4m **** overnight rating
14. Emmerdale 08/01/07 ITV1 - 9.38m
15. UEFA Champions League 01/05/07 ITV1 - 9.29m
16. New Tricks 21/05/07 BBC1 - 9.25m
17. BBC News 01/07/07 BBC1 - 9.24m
18. Wild At Heart 21/01/07 ITV1 - 9.00m
= Match Of The Day Live 12/09/07 BBC1 - 9.00m
Strictly Come Dancing should dislodge Comic Relief soon probably.

Last night's EastEnders held up very well against Emmerdale. Emmerdale averaged 6.8 million viewers and a 31% share of the audience between 7.00-8.00pm last night, yet when it was against EastEnders from 7.30pm onwards it dipped to 6.2 million viewers and 27% share of the audience while EastEnders had 7.3 million and a 32% share. 1 million viewers and a 6% share for the 10.00pm repeat on BBC THREE is excellent news as well.

EastEnders altogether had 8.3 million viewers and a 40% audience share last night then.
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Old 21-11-2007, 22:02
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Difficult to predict tonight but i'll say:

BBC1
7.30 Match of the Day Live 11.4m
10.00 News 7.6m

ITV1
8.00 The Bill 4.2m
9.00 I'm a Celebrity 5m

Wont get any big ratings like that for Euro 2008 next year now...
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Old 21-11-2007, 22:09
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England match probably got huge ratings... match average of 11m. I'm so disappointed! nearly crying!
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Old 22-11-2007, 00:02
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England match probably got huge ratings... match average of 11m. I'm so disappointed! nearly crying!
id say higher than that, it was an exciting game despite the result

many more will have tuned in for the 2nd half

im going to be outlandish and say a peak of 20million!

it was a cold and wet wednesday night, little else on etc
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Old 22-11-2007, 00:03
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For a qualifier? I know it was a crucial game but a peak that high? I expect it was a high average though.
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Old 22-11-2007, 00:56
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id say higher than that, it was an exciting game despite the result

many more will have tuned in for the 2nd half

im going to be outlandish and say a peak of 20million!
20 million!! England's World Cup penalty shootout against Portugal didn't get that!
I'd take a guess at 12m tops.
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Old 22-11-2007, 02:59
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Who will get most viewers on Xmas day...coronation street
or eastenders
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:22
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Difficult to predict tonight but i'll say:

BBC1
7.30 Match of the Day Live 11.4m
10.00 News 7.6m

ITV1
8.00 The Bill 4.2m
9.00 I'm a Celebrity 5m

Wont get any big ratings like that for Euro 2008 next year now...
WEDNESDAY ACTUALS:

ITV1
9pm I’m A Celebrity 5.8m (23%)

Channel 4
8pm How To Look Good Naked 2.7M
9pm Secret Millionaire 1.9M
10pm Love Trap 768,100
11pm Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares 970,000


England's failure to qualify for Euro 2008 in a home match against Croatia was seen by a peak audience of 13.2m (48.3%) at 9.30pm last night.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:00
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Originally Posted by ronant
Difficult to predict tonight but i'll say:

BBC1
7.30 Match of the Day Live 11.4m
10.00 News 7.6m

ITV1
8.00 The Bill 4.2m
9.00 I'm a Celebrity 5m

BBC1
7.00 The One Show 5m 22%
7.30 Match of the Day Live 11.2m 43%

BBC2
8.00 Ben's Zoo 1.9m 7%
9.00 Heroes 1.6m 6%

ITV1
7.00 Emmerdale 7.8m 35%
7.30 Coronation Street 9.4m 39%
8.00 The Bill 4.2m 16%
9.00 Im a Celebrity 5.8m 23%

Im a Celeb held up very well against the footie, its audience must of gone well up at 10. The football goes to sixth in the year's top 10, behind Britain's Got Talent and ahead of EastEnders.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:17
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Very strong ratings, unsurprisingly. I'm A Celeb held by very well indeed. I expect the 90 minute running time helped, as its ratings would have shot up once the footy ended.

Of course it's going to be very interesting for ITV1 and BBC1 next year, with no England in the tournament. ITV1 will be hit hard as I expect they were banking on Euro 2008 to bring them huge ratings.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:31
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Of course it's going to be very interesting for ITV1 and BBC1 next year, with no England in the tournament. ITV1 will be hit hard as I expect they were banking on Euro 2008 to bring them huge ratings.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007...dvertising.itv

£10m apparently.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:35
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Although the Scottish FA were suggesting a home nations tournament which would be fantastic, and be a much bigger thing in this country than Euro 2008 in the summer.

Who would have rights for it? Presumably the BBC would have the rights for the England and Northern Ireland home matches, while Sky would have Scotland's and Wales's? Or would it not be part of those deals and would be a seperate contract? Hopefully they would include the Republic of ireland too.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:43
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Very strong ratings, unsurprisingly. I'm A Celeb held by very well indeed. I expect the 90 minute running time helped, as its ratings would have shot up once the footy ended.

Of course it's going to be very interesting for ITV1 and BBC1 next year, with no England in the tournament. ITV1 will be hit hard as I expect they were banking on Euro 2008 to bring them huge ratings.
they'll move most of the games to ITV 2+4 and BBC Three/BBC2 IMO

only the top clashes including the likes of Germany, Holland, France, Italy will be on BBC1 and ITV1 IMO

they wont get good enough ratings for group clashes between the likes of Austria and Turkey to make it worthwhile moving all the regular shows about.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:49
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Although the Scottish FA were suggesting a home nations tournament which would be fantastic, and be a much bigger thing in this country than Euro 2008 in the summer.

Who would have rights for it? Presumably the BBC would have the rights for the England and Northern Ireland home matches, while Sky would have Scotland's and Wales's? Or would it not be part of those deals and would be a seperate contract? Hopefully they would include the Republic of ireland too.
Presumably it would be up for grabs rights wise were it to happen (although it would depend on how it was structured). The timing would be difficult. It would have to be squeezed in before the Euro 2008 tournament. I suspect though it wont happen, and that England and others may end up playing in friendlies the US or Far East where the commercial opportunities are greater.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:50
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they'll move most of the games to ITV 2+4 and BBC Three/BBC2 IMO
No they wont. Even the lesser matches will rate better than the normal summer diet of repeats & reality tv.
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:56
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Presumably it would be up for grabs rights wise were it to happen (although it would depend on how it was structured). The timing would be difficult. It would have to be squeezed in before the Euro 2008 tournament. I suspect though it wont happen, and that England and others may end up playing in friendlies the US or Far East where the commercial opportunities are greater.
Well theres always friendlies before major championships so there would be a bit of time there, but i cant see why there couldnt be a little overlap. I'd imagine the other home nations would be for it - if the FA go off to America or the Far East and say no to it they'd be even less popular. I'm sure they could fit in both anyway.

As for the contract - this was from the BBC Press release in 2003: 'All England Home Senior Internationals - competitive and friendly - will be exclusively live on BBC, with highlights and delayed broadcast on Sky Sports until the end of the 2007/8 season' - so surely that would have to include this? Of course having it as a seperate tv deal would make it rather more attractive to the FA.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:12
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Im a Celeb held up very well against the footie, its audience must of gone well up at 10. The football goes to sixth in the year's top 10, behind Britain's Got Talent and ahead of EastEnders.
EE is looking dangerously close to not making the top 10 shows of the year. Not great figures for I'm a celeb but expected.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:26
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EE is looking dangerously close to not making the top 10 shows of the year. Not great figures for I'm a celeb but expected.
Not terrible either, in all fairness.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:39
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No they wont. Even the lesser matches will rate better than the normal summer diet of repeats & reality tv.

so your telling me ITV will move programmes such as emmerdale, corrie, the bill etc to make way for a 7pm game involving Austria??

they'd be silly if they did, like the rugby world cup, the unimportant games that kick of at 7pm will be booted to BBC2 or the digital channels.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:44
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so your telling me ITV will move programmes such as emmerdale, corrie, the bill etc to make way for a 7pm game involving Austria??

they'd be silly if they did, like the rugby world cup, the unimportant games that kick of at 7pm will be booted to BBC2 or the digital channels.
They will do, just like they do for every other major tournament. The World Cup involves plenty of small teams and theres matches that dont have any relevance to England - but they still pulled in great ratings. Mexico v Iran for example, nearly 5m at 5pm one Sunday afternoon, USA v Czech Rep a similar rating at the same time on a monday. Meanwhile Germany v Poland had nearly 9m and Brazil v Croatia had 10m in the evening, and these were just group games.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:46
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BBC News 24
2.11 m daily reach (2.09 previous week)/6.77m weekly (6.98m)
Sky Sports News
1.96 m daily (1.94m)/5.87m weekly(5.86m)
Sky News
1.48 m daily (1.45m)/4.34 m weekly (4.35m)

c BARB
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:48
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They will do, just like they do for every other major tournament. The World Cup involves plenty of small teams and theres matches that dont have any relevance to England - but they still pulled in great ratings. Mexico v Iran for example, nearly 5m at 5pm one Sunday afternoon, USA v Czech Rep a similar rating at the same time on a monday. Meanwhile Germany v Poland had nearly 9m and Brazil v Croatia had 10m in the evening, and these were just group games.
hmm, the world cup is more important though, and also dont discount the general lack of interest Euro 2008 will cause in the UK press and public..due to no home nations being involved.

of course it will still get decent audiences, and obviously the 3pm and 5pm games will still be on the main channels as theyd get more viewers than repeats of midsummer murders or whatever else is on at those times.

also dont forget how multi-channel has grown since Euro2004. I think the ITV in particular would be stupid not to put some games on ITV4, where it would still get good ratings (as the rugby world cup showed) but without disrupting ITV1's schedule.
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Old 22-11-2007, 14:13
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Re Euro 2008 - note that the entire event is a Crown Jewels LIST A category event - ie every game has to be live on terrestrial TV.

BBC can show games on BBC2 but if BBC/ITV wish to show games on channels other than BBC1/BBC2/ITV1 then they will have to apply to OFCOM for permission.

OFCOM may well grant this BUT there would be a downside. There would then be a strong argument for the entire Euro Finals and World Cup finals being taken off the List A (except for games involving home nations).

BBC and ITV will not be keen on that as it would mean Sky could win exclusive rights to games at future tournaments (other than home nations games).

The problem for BBC and ITV is they can't have it both ways. Either games not involving home nations are important enough to be on terrrestrial TV or they don't warrant being on list A.
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Old 22-11-2007, 14:32
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so your telling me ITV will move programmes such as emmerdale, corrie, the bill etc to make way for a 7pm game involving Austria??

they'd be silly if they did, like the rugby world cup, the unimportant games that kick of at 7pm will be booted to BBC2 or the digital channels.
The easy solution is to alternate nights. So ITV take Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday say while BBC1 take evening games on Monday, Wednesday, Friday & Sunday. On the nights when BBC1 have a game ITV could do hour long soap editions & vice versa for BBC1 on nights when ITV1 has the evening game.
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