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GeorgeS
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by rzt:
“100k is bad. I'm sure ITV were not just hoping but expecting a much better slot average than last year.”

Ok then how much is the 9pm slot down by year on year? At least 10% if not more.

You can hope for or expect whatever audience figures you like, but changes in viewing habits occur only slowly.
rzt
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Ok then how much is the 9pm slot down by year on year? At least 10% if not more.

You can hope for or expect whatever audience figures you like, but changes in viewing habits occur only slowly.”

The reason why ITV's 9pm slots aren't doing well is because nearly all the programmes being shown are quite poor. In contrast on the BBC, you have top quality shows such as the Apprentice which are getting their highest figures ever. Even on the rare ocassions when ITV News at Ten has had good lead-ins, it's not done well.
GeorgeS
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Even on the rare ocassions when ITV News at Ten has had good lead-ins, it's not done well.”

The lead in's need to hand over an audience that will watch the news. News is watched mainly by older people.

The BBC shows a lot of stuff that skews older at 9pm (New Tricks, Waking The Dead, even the Apprentice)

ITV have been trying shows with younger appeal at 9pm (not always sucessfully)

It goes back to my point on consistency. On nights when they have something that fits well with News at Ten beforehand, such as Taggart or Trial & Retributrion, the news does reasonably well. When there isn't, it doesn't do as well.
rzt
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“The lead in's need to hand over an audience that will watch the news. News is watched mainly by older people.

The BBC shows a lot of stuff that skews older at 9pm (New Tricks, Waking The Dead, even the Apprentice)

ITV have been trying shows with younger appeal at 9pm (not always sucessfully)

It goes back to my point on consistency. On nights when they have something that fits well with News at Ten beforehand, such as Taggart or Trial & Retributrion, the news does reasonably well. When there isn't, it doesn't do as well.”

Perhaps you're right and News at Ten does better after Taggart or T & R. But still the figure it gets is below 3 million viewers (2 million less than BBC News). It's not good. Even if you leave News at Ten to settle in for months even years, I don't think the ratings will rise that much. It was a mistake to get rid of News at 10 back in 1999. But I think it was also a mistake to revive it. In this day and age, there's no point in having news on two channels at the same time.
farmermike
17-04-2008
I enjoy reading this thread every day, and I'm fascinated by the ratings game - though sometimes of course, I think I could do better than the schedulers. (?)

But I do get tired of those people who appear to enjoy seeing BBC1 or ITV1 come a cropper. I'm just pleased to see good quality programmes pull in big audiences. By quality, I mean Cranford or Skins; Pushing Daisies or Moving Wallpaper; The Apprentice or SCD.

And I'm 61. Not exactly the target audience.
ronant
17-04-2008
Last night - The Apprentice 7 million
nickynoodle167
17-04-2008
WOW Another series high.
rzt
17-04-2008
Wednesday 16th April Overnights
BBC1
20.00- Traffic Cops: 5.0m (22%)
21.00- The Apprentice: 7.0m (30%)
* peak: 7.6m (32%) in the final 15 minutes.
* most watched Apprentice episode ever.
* current series average: 6.7m

22.00- BBC 10 O'Clock News: 4.7m (24%)
22.35- Comedy Sketchbook: 2.2m (18%)

BBC2
21.00- Dan Cruickshank's Adventures in Architecture: 1.9m (8%)
22.00- The Apprentice You're Fired!: 3.3m (16%)
22.30- Newsnight: 1.4m (10%)

ITV1
19.00- Emmerdale: 7.2m (36%)
19.30- Coronation Street: 9.5m (45%)
20.00- The Bill: 5.4m (24%)
21.00- Rock Rivals: 2.2m (10%)
22.00- ITV News at Ten: 1.9m (9%)

Channel4
20.00- Property Ladder: 2.8m (12%) + 227,000 (C4 +1)
21.00- Child Genius: 2.3m + 154,000 (C4+1)
22.00- Desperate Housewives: 2.0m (11%) + 107,000 (C4+1)

Five
21.00- Indiana Jones: The True Story: 1.4m (6%)
jtnorth
17-04-2008
Anyone know what ITV will be putting opposite the Apprentice once Rock Rivals is over?
Polonius
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“Anyone know what ITV will be putting opposite the Apprentice once Rock Rivals is over?”

Madeline: One Year One from 8-10pm on one night.
nickynoodle167
17-04-2008
Apprentice 2008 Average - 6.64 (27.4%)
Apprentice 2007 Average - 5.03 (21.6%) After four Episodes

Your Fired! 2008 Average - 2.73 (14.0%)
nickynoodle167
17-04-2008
Good on Rock Rivals too

Maintaining its audience.

Series Average - 2.6 (10.8%)

I think about 2.4 Million for the finale next week maybe. And good to see the share into double figures for the first time since the Apprentice returned.
GeorgeS
17-04-2008
well on the bright side, News At Ten is retaining its lead in quite well on Wednesdays
Agent F
17-04-2008
I'm delighted that The Apprentice is doing so brilliantly. It just keeps rising and rising.
rzt
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“well on the bright side, News At Ten is retaining its lead in quite well on Wednesdays ”

Lol- 4th in its slot is bad. BBC2 and channel 4 had similar lead-ins and still did better than ITV.
Thebenster
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by Polonius:
“Madeline: One Year One from 8-10pm on one night.”

Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign for Change
Quote:
“Almost a year to the day since their daughter went missing from their hoiday apartment in the Portugese Algarve, Kate and Gerry McCann talk exclusively to ITV about the events of that fateful night. Plus, cameras follow the couple from their Leicester home to Washington and Brussels as they campaign for the introduction of a Europe-wide alert system for abducted children.”

I can't see it doing to well. :yawn:
rzt
17-04-2008
Old favourites keep pulling in viewers
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2...n_viewers.html
Quote:
“Established dramas on BBC1 and ITV1 again proved they can bring in large audiences this week, but both channels struggled to hold on to viewers for new shows.
The latest run of ITV1's Foyle's War proved it has lost none of its charm as the fifth series launched on Sunday 13 April with a sizeable 7.1 million/27.9% share. The two-hour drama at 8pm held a largely steady audience throughout, hitting a high of 7.4 million/28.8% at 8.30pm. The last time Foyle's War was aired, 7.5 million/34.8% tuned in on 15 April in a 9pm slot.

The Michael Kitchen-fronted Second World War show found favour with upmarket viewers, with 44.5% of its audience coming from the ABC1 demographic. But it was a turn-off for younger viewers, with just 3.6% of the audience aged between 16 and 34.

Also warmly welcomed back by viewers was BBC1's Waking the Dead on Monday 14 April. The crime drama pulled in a respectable 6.8 million/27.3% over an hour at 9pm, well over the channel's slot average of 5.5 million/23.5% share.

While the figures were strong, moving the two-part show from Sunday and Monday nights to Monday and Tuesday didn't impress some viewers. The first outing of the last series on 7 January - a Sunday - pulled in a heavyweight 9.2 million/35.4%. The entire series averaged an impressive 7 million/27.1%.

New drama shows may initially bring in sizeable audiences, but numbers can quickly drop off as viewers lose interest. ITV1's The Fixer, part of its plan to air more cutting-edge drama, initially grabbed 6.2 million/26.6% on 10 March but audiences quickly dropped and the six-part run ended last Monday on 3.3 million/13.4% in a 9pm slot. It was well below the slot average of 5.7 million/24.4%, and the entire run averaged 4.5 million/19.2%.

A similar fate befell BBC1's recent drama three-parter Casualty 1907. It kicked off on 30 March with a strong 6.6 million/26.9% in a Sunday night slot at 9pm but concluded last week (13 April) with just 3.5 million/13.7%.

Holby Blue, the corporation's rival to ITV1's The Bill, has suffered since returning for a second run, The Holby City spin-off started off with 5.2 million/23.4% on 20 March in an 8pm slot, bettering The Bill, which managed 4 million/17.8% at the same time. But since then Holby Blue has seen its audience fade away, while The Bill has held steady, and the BBC show only drew 3.4 million/15.4% on 10 April.

The second run of E4's high-profile teen drama Skins couldn't match the first series last year. The conclusion on 14 April picked up 770,000/4.65% at 10pm giving the second series an average of 663,000/4.3% on E4. Even with the viewers watching on E4+1, the series averaged 805,000/5.22% compared with the first series, which launched in January last year and averaged 822,000/5.70%.

Top 10 dramas so far this year

Title TX Start Viewers Channel Share 2008 (millions) (%)
1 Doctor Who 05/04 6.20pm 8.4 BBC1 39.4
2 Wild at Heart 02/03 7.30pm 8.2 ITV1 32.8
3 Heartbeat 06/01 8pm 8.2 ITV1 30.3
4 Lewis 24/02 9pm 8.0 ITV1 35.4
4 Casualty 02/02 8.20pm 8.0 ITV1 33.0
6 Heartbeat 13/01 7.50pm 7.7 ITV1 27.9
7 Foyle's War 13/04 8pm 7.1 ITV1 27.9
8 Holby City 18/03 8pm 7.0 BBC1 29.5
8 Ashes To Ashes 07/02 9pm 7.0 BBC1 29.2
10 Waking The Dead 14/04 9pm 6.8 BBC1 27.3
Source: TNS Infosys. Figures are for overnights. Period covered 1 Jan to 14 April. Excludes soaps”

Jonwo
17-04-2008
I think that the failure of Rock Rivals proves to both ITV1 and Shed that glossy 'so bad it's good' dramas have had its day and that the audiences for normal talent shows aren't the same audience as a drama audience.

I read on the Shed website that Rock Rivals were originally pitched and developed as a drama about two music producers who set up their own separate labels and it was pitched to Five and E4.

The Apprentice is doing amazing business and benefits from the very weak competition from the other channels.
rzt
17-04-2008
AI Round Up- Top and Bottom AIs: Sunday 6th to Saturday 12th Apr
Top
Sun 06/04: 2000 Tiger: Spy in the Jungle (BBC One) 92
Sat 12/04: 1900 Dad's Army (BBC Two) 91
Wed 09/04: 2000 Natural World (BBC Two) 89
Wed 09/04: 2100 Extraordinary People: The Human Camera (Five) 89
Mon 07/04: 2235 Damages (BBC One) 88
Sat 12/04: 1540 Monk (BBC Two) 88
Sat 12/04: 1930 The Lost World Of Tibet (BBC Two) 88
Tue 08/04: 2200 Shameless (Channel 4) 88
Wed 09/04: 2200 Desperate Housewives (Channel 4) 88
Wed 09/04: 2305 Shameless (Channel 4) 88
Thu 10/04: 2100 House (Five) 88
Fri 11/04: 2100 NCIS (Five) 88
Fri 11/03: 2300 Law and Order: Criminal Intent (Five) 88
Sat 12/04: 2045 NCIS (Five) 88
Sat 12/04: 1645 Doctor Who (BBC1) 87

Bottom
Wed 09/04: 2235 Party Election Broadcast by the Liberal Democratic Party (BBC One) 49
Tue 08/04: 2020 Party Election Broadcast by the Conservative Party (BBC One) 57
Sat 12/04: 2000 The National Lottery Draws (BBC One) 64
Wed 09/04: 2000 The National Lottery Draws (BBC One) 64
Tue 08/04: 2220 How Diana Died: The Conspiracy Files (BBC Two) 66
Agent F
17-04-2008
Nice to see DH so high.
Lukey37
17-04-2008
ITV doesn't feature in the top 15. Even five gets in there a few times.
Dancc
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Bottom
Wed 09/04: 2235 Party Election Broadcast by the Liberal Democratic Party (BBC One) 49
Tue 08/04: 2020 Party Election Broadcast by the Conservative Party (BBC One) 57”

Haha! That's not surprising
Jaycee Dove
17-04-2008
On This Morning just now Philip Schofield has talked about the Pushing Daisies lost episode saga and, as a fan of the show, called on ITV to screen a double bill on the final week to ensure we see them all.

Either this is with inside knowledge of ITV plans or he feels sure he is not upsetting his own bosses on national TV.
JimmyJoe
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“On This Morning just now Philip Schofield has talked about the Pushing Daisies lost episode saga and, as a fan of the show, called on ITV to screen a double bill on the final week to ensure we see them all.

Either this is with inside knowledge of ITV plans or he feels sure he is not upsetting his own bosses on national TV.”

Interesting! Thanks for that update! I cant see Philip wanting to piss them off so definitly very interesting to see whether he knows something!
PJMillar
17-04-2008
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“On This Morning just now Philip Schofield has talked about the Pushing Daisies lost episode saga and, as a fan of the show, called on ITV to screen a double bill on the final week to ensure we see them all.

Either this is with inside knowledge of ITV plans or he feels sure he is not upsetting his own bosses on national TV.”

Yes, I think that's a good idea from Phillip to be honest. I think he'd check if he was upsetting bosses.

ITV will probably screen them, they were probably wanting promotion from the whole thing!
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