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Old 15-04-2007, 16:47
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Originally Posted by GeorgeS
Just proves there is no point making shows for kids when they would rather watch the adults stuff anyway. No CBBC or CITV stuff make it into the Top 10 Kids shows.
Although Come Outside on CBeebies did make the multichannel top 10! Isn't CBeebies the second most watched digital channel after ITV2 during the day? Pretty impressive for something which would be of little interest to anyone over 6. Actually that's a bit worrying!

You can see how much effect Freeview has had though - 8 out of the top 10 multichannel programmes are from Freeview channels.
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Old 15-04-2007, 16:51
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Although Come Outside on CBeebies did make the multichannel top 10!
Just by doing some rough math though, at least 1/3 of the total audience for Come Outside were not kids, since it got a total audience of 290,000 and the number 10 on the kids show list got 200,000.
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Old 15-04-2007, 16:58
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Originally Posted by ronant
Although Come Outside on CBeebies did make the multichannel top 10! Isn't CBeebies the second most watched digital channel after ITV2 during the day? Pretty impressive for something which would be of little interest to anyone over 6. Actually that's a bit worrying!

You can see how much effect Freeview has had though - 8 out of the top 10 multichannel programmes are from Freeview channels.
Not just by day, its second I think in all hours ratings too.
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Old 15-04-2007, 17:08
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Originally Posted by GeorgeS
Just proves there is no point making shows for kids when they would rather watch the adults stuff anyway. No CBBC or CITV stuff make it into the Top 10 Kids shows.

But then there is hardly anything WORTH watching in kids slots on Saturday now.

No MOM, no Saturday morning magazine show full stop.

Both MOM and D n' D managed to hit the million mark when they were still on, and TMI was managing 600,000 on BBC2. The likes of BP and Totally Doctor Who still rate around the million mark on weekdays.

Kids are as fussy as adults in their viewing habits, they can spot trash a mile off and steer well clear.
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Old 15-04-2007, 20:03
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Interesting that Doctor Who again increased its audience every 5 minutes through the episode, even with the later start.

Not sure moving it back to 6.35 next week (and presumably till the end of the run) is going to do it any favours, unless the weather turns. I'd be inclined to swap Any Dream.. with Doctor Who - obviously they've decided to use Dr Who as a ratings leg-up to Any Dream.. in the same way they did with Strictly Come Dancing and Robin Hood. Not sure that's making the best use of their strongest assets.

Tonight's selected predictions:

BBC1:
Antiques Roadshow 4.8m
Castaway 2.1m
BBC News 4.3m
Play it Again 2.3m
Superstorm 5m

BBC2:
Best of TG 2.7m

ITV1:
Emmerdale 6.8m
Coro St 9.7m
Royal 7.2m
Foyle's War 7.2m

Ch4
Lost in Translation 2.2m
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Old 15-04-2007, 21:43
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Knock Superstorm down to 4m.

It's pants... :yawn:
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Old 16-04-2007, 08:55
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According to a post on the previous page by ronant, 1.2m and a 9% share.

Very disappointing. People have no taste these days. (at least the people with BARB boxes anyway!)
I know. Good thing is though, Peep Show has always had low ratings like this, its the critical aclaim and "cult" status it has gained. And C4 has already confirmed a fifth series Story Here
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Old 16-04-2007, 12:12
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Probably BBC1's worst day ever yesterday, a 14.6% share. Broadcast say it's the lowest since the new BARB system was introduced in 2001 but i'd be pretty surprised if it was ever that low before 2001. ITV1 had a 25% share yesterday, which i think is their best day of the year so far.

On Saturday though BBC1 had their best day for a long time with 31.5% up against ITV1's 13.4%, their worst for a long time! So definetly a weekend of two halfs!

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Old 16-04-2007, 12:42
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Originally Posted by ronant
Probably BBC1's worst day ever yesterday, a 14.6% share. Broadcast say it's the lowest since the new BARB system was introduced in 2001 but i'd be pretty surprised if it was ever that low before 2001. ITV1 had a 25% share yesterday, which i think is their best day of the year so far.

On Saturday though BBC1 had their best day for a long time with 31.5% up against ITV1's 13.4%, their worst for a long time! So definetly a weekend of two halfs!
Agreed. The weekend share all depends on who has got what live sport to show.
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Old 16-04-2007, 17:25
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It's a shame that Superstorm didn't do as wel as I thought - I was expecting at least 5 million Oh well let's go on for tonight's guess

Emmerdale (ITV1 , 7:00) 7.9M 40%
Coronation Street (ITV1 , 7:30) 10.2M 46%
Eastenders (BBC1 , 8:00) 9.4M 43%
Coronation Street (ITV1 , 8:30) 9.8M 42%
New Tricks (BBC1 , 9:00) 7.4M 31%
Diamond Geezer (ITV1 , 9:00) 27%

Hopfully I'm close , Eastenders deserves better figures than last week and I Hope New Tricks wins the 9pm ratings battle
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Old 16-04-2007, 18:34
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emmerdale 7.2 m
corrie 10m
eastenders 9.3
corrie 9.8
new tricks 6.3
diamond geezer 5.9
prison break 1.2
sky one - ross kemp on gangs - hoping it'll get 700,000+
heroes sci fi -10 603,000
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Old 16-04-2007, 18:38
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Sorry My Ratings guess for Diamond Geezer is 6.2m
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Old 16-04-2007, 18:46
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SUNDAY ACTUALS:

ITV1:
7pm Emmerdale 7.1 million 41% share
7.30pm Coronation Street 9.3 million 45% share
8pm The Royal 7.9 million 35% share
9pm Foyle's War 7.4 million 34% share


BBC1:
7pm Castaway 2.1 million 12% share
7.35pm BBC News 2.9 million 14% share
8pm Play It Again 2.1 million 9% share
9pm Superstorm 3.8 million 16% share

ITV1 Bahrain Grand Prix 2.5 million 34% share between 11.30am and 2.40pm
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Old 16-04-2007, 19:19
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I somehow cannot see EastEnders getting 9 million again tonight or this week after it sunk to 7 million last week. I think a generous guess would be 7.5-8 million viewers tonight. Coronation Street should get 9-10 million and New Tricks should beat Diamond Geezer again, probably with reduced audience figures for both.
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Old 16-04-2007, 20:12
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Originally Posted by ronant
Probably BBC1's worst day ever yesterday, a 14.6% share. Broadcast say it's the lowest since the new BARB system was introduced in 2001 but i'd be pretty surprised if it was ever that low before 2001. ITV1 had a 25% share yesterday, which i think is their best day of the year so far.

On Saturday though BBC1 had their best day for a long time with 31.5% up against ITV1's 13.4%, their worst for a long time! So definetly a weekend of two halfs!
Its hard to see the BBC seriously threatening ITV on Sunday nights. As far as I can remember only Auf wiedersehen Pet, Ballykissangel and a few docs about the Queen have come close to matching ITV in the last decade or more. Despite having a few goes the BBC are always "out familied" at 8.00 by an endless supply of Heartbeat style shows.The concentration should be at 9.00 where George Gently did well last week.
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Old 16-04-2007, 20:57
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Why doesn't BARB do 2002 ratings and 2003 ratings?
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Old 16-04-2007, 21:16
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Why doesn't BARB do 2002 ratings and 2003 ratings?
If I recall, they changed the way they calculate the ratings - which caused a highly dubious ratings slump across the board - and they never published the ratings for the best part of two years whilst they sorted it out. The ratings never recovered though.

Can't understand why they don't go back beyond June 1998. Surely they could have got someone to input the ratings back to 1981 by now - it would be a valuable archive.
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Old 16-04-2007, 21:32
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BBC1:
7pm Castaway 2.1 million 12% share
7.35pm BBC News 2.9 million 14% share
8pm Play It Again 2.1 million 9% share
9pm Superstorm 3.8 million 16% share

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The BBC is stuck with this line up for 2 more weeks. Kingdom starts next week on ITV at 9pm Sunday which should do well seeing as it has Stephen Fry in it. This is David Gest follows that at 10.15pm next week. I would expect that could flop badly for ITV.
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Old 16-04-2007, 21:40
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This is David Gest follows that at 10.15pm next week. I would expect that could flop badly for ITV.
I hope so. At this rate he'll be the new Sharon Osbourne
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Old 16-04-2007, 21:57
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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123
If I recall, they changed the way they calculate the ratings - which caused a highly dubious ratings slump across the board - and they never published the ratings for the best part of two years whilst they sorted it out. The ratings never recovered though.
Oh! It just annoys me so much because I need those ratings. Also, when i go to Media Guardian's Overnights, it doesn't have all of the overnight reports in the searches.
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Old 16-04-2007, 21:58
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This is David Gest follows that at 10.15pm next week. I would expect that could flop badly for ITV.
I agree. Funny how we all on here seem to predict pretty well what's going to be a hit or a miss, whereas the people in charge clearly haven't the foggiest - otherwise stuff like this wouldn't be commissioned.

And 'This Is David Gest' seems to be getting a lot of promotion (like above), which seems odd, you'd think they'd want to promote their good programmes. And it's also stupid because when programmes with lots of promotion flop - as this inevitably will, they get a lot more publicity about it then a programme with little promotion.
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Old 16-04-2007, 22:03
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I agree. Funny how we all on here seem to predict pretty well what's going to be a hit or a miss, whereas the people in charge clearly haven't the foggiest - otherwise stuff like this wouldn't be commissioned.

And 'This Is David Gest' seems to be getting a lot of promotion (like above), which seems odd, you'd think they'd want to promote their good programmes. And it's also stupid because when programmes with lots of promotion flop - as this inevitably will, they get a lot more publicity about it then a programme with little promotion.
Maybe someone pressed the wrong button somewhere and this ended up on ITV1 instead of ITV2?
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Old 17-04-2007, 08:35
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Originally Posted by ronant
I agree. Funny how we all on here seem to predict pretty well what's going to be a hit or a miss, whereas the people in charge clearly haven't the foggiest - otherwise stuff like this wouldn't be commissioned.

And 'This Is David Gest' seems to be getting a lot of promotion (like above), which seems odd, you'd think they'd want to promote their good programmes. And it's also stupid because when programmes with lots of promotion flop - as this inevitably will, they get a lot more publicity about it then a programme with little promotion.
I'd imagine there are other (less noble) reasons why the show is being made. It may be part of Gest's contract to be a judge on the Saturday night show that he get his own show. It might be an attempt to raise his profile. It might even be because its cheap to make (compared to an hour of drama).

Either way ITV havent show much faith in it by moving the news back to 10pm and starting it at 10.15pm. It will lose any lift that Kingdom could have given it.

In the old days this is when ITV would have scheduled a comedy (Spitting Image or the News Statesman). I suspect they originally wanted the Ben Elton show to go in this slot but were afraid it wasnt good enough.
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Old 17-04-2007, 10:48
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New Tricks is pulling away from everything else at 9pm. Last night it got 7.3 million viewers (31.9%)
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Old 17-04-2007, 11:39
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MONDAY NIGHT ACTUALS:

BBC1

8pm EastEnders 8.2 million (37.8%)
8.30pm Panorama 3.5 million (15.3%)
9pm New Tricks 7.3 million (31.9%)
10pm 10 O'Clock News 5.9 million (28.9%)

ITV1
7.30pm Coronation Street 10 million (49.8%)
8.00pm Tonight 4.4 million (20.2%)
8.30pm Coronation Street 9.5 million (41.9%)
9pm Diamond Geezer 4.3 million (19.5%)
10.30pm ITV News 2.8 million (17.2%)

BBC2
9pm Blue Suede Jew 1 million (4.4%)
10pm Ruddy Hell! It's Harry and Paul 1.3 million (6%)

Channel 4
8pm Dispatches 602,000 (2.7%)
9pm Cutting Edge 1.4 million (6%)
10pm ER 1.4 million

Five
9pm Hidden Lives:Three in a Bed 1.3 million (5.8%)
10pm Prison Break 1.4 million

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