Erm, off the top of my head! perhaps that's not as far behind as it was last week?!

So surely 'catching up' would be a better way of putting it.

That's what i thought it said! Whoops maybe i do need glasses

I'm sorry I meant catching up but Eastenders should be now because it''s way ahead of Corrie in Quality

Although it is 900,000, the BBC do not really care that much about getting huge ratings on the first show- they rightly give the viewers as much of an opportunity to catch up on an episode that they've missed. So, if you take into account the omnibus figures and repeats figures of ee and corrie, ee is still ahead.

Obviously itv and some people care about the overnight ratings, but to a lot of other people including the bbc, it is not the overnight ratings which hugely matter (of course they matter a little bit), but what matters to the BBC is giving viewers more opportunities to watch their favourite programmes.

Or as their known in the trade - repeats.

yes you are correct

My thoughts exactly May Blossom. Not sure where all of this praise is suddenly coming from.

Do you have the figures to prove this?
If ITV is 1-2m ahead on overnights, I dont see the BBC overtaking that lead, given the ITV2 repeats of CS also need to be added into the final CS figures


a bizzare comment if I may say so. Surely what should matter to the BBC is producing innovative & distinct programming?

People are praising EastEnders because they are enjoying it. Some people on here seem such hard fans of ITV that they refuse to let people enjoy or praise EastEnders. If it was as bad as the same posters keep making out people wouldn't be praising it thoughout various forums.

I'll admit it was crap for a while but its so such better right now since it turned character led rather than storyline led.

I Can See Eastenders Overaking Corrie this year or in coming years - Cornation Street is on it's way to being numer 3 soap. Even though it has some solid characters Jack , Vera , Betty , Rita , Norris , Emily who hardly ever see them and the new characters are taking over which is a shame because they are very boring except from Michelle.

They might not- but they should!

unlikely. If for no other reason than CS has an older profile of viewers who are more loyal and habitual viewers than the younger demo that EE chases who are watching less & less TV.

I do have the firgures to prove this, but I cant be bothered to post all the figures, BUT you can see the figures on the barb website. For e.g. as you have rightly said corrie is 1-2m ahead of ee usually, so on average around 1.5m. The barb website shows that for the week ending 15/4/07, the ee bbc3 ratings ranged from around 400,000 to 772,000. Whereas the corrie repeats all were under 448,000. Then the EE omnibus usually gets 2m, whereas for that week the Corrie omnibus got less than 448,000. If you add all those figures, EE will probably get more ratings than Corrie.

If you look on the barb website, it shows that even in EE's prime, arguably in the late 90's, Corrie a lot of the time got higher overnight ratings, however EE got more ratings overall after the repeat, which barb counted.

I think you will find that the EE omnibus gets 1-1.5m tops these days. CS also has an omnibus on Saturdays on ITV2 and daytime repeats. It may be close when you add all the screenings together, but I dont think EE has a clear lead anymore.

And based on the number of rescreenings alone ITV 2 beat the Beeb anyday. I'm not sure that's a record to be proud of though!

I think you should look at a TV guide.

ITV give viewers plenty more chances to catch up on corrie than the BBC do with EE

BBC will show

1st showing: 7.30 or 8pm on BBC 1
2nd showing: 10pm on BBC 3
3rd showing: Sunday omnibus

ITV will show:

1st showing: 7.30 and/or 8.30pm on ITV 1
2nd showing: around 11pm mark on ITV 2
3rd showing: around 9.25am on a morning on ITV 2
4th showing: around midday on ITV 2
5th showing: OMNIBUS:saturday afternoon on ITV 2
6th showing: OMNIBUS: early sunday evening on ITV 2 (always scheduled to end before new episode at 7.30pm on ITV 1)


I think its quite astounding corrie can still pull in such huge figures for its ITV 1 slots when viewers know the huge number of repeats and other chances to watch it so i think it really must be well ahead of Eastenders !!!

Or have i missed something here???

And of course if you look at it on a weekly basis then corrie is really streets ahead as it goes out 5 times a week (as two episodes on Monday) so on a weekly basis it draws in far more viewers - however i am aware that overall total minutes shown a week is roughly neck in neck as ITV have the ad's
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Of course.


I hope that wasn't aimed at me. I'm no hard fan of ITV - far from it. I certainly don't refuse to let people enjoy or praise the show - I just don't agree that it's as good as people are making it out to be.


You know, as well as I do, that it's a purely subjective view. None of us are right, and none of us are wrong. All it is, is an opinion - but let's save that for another forum.

You can say that again. I really dont think Eastenders has changed much at all.

Its still an incredibly depressing(even with pauline gone!) and IMO boring soap. In fact its more a "drama" than a soap but a poor drama at that. there are much better dramas on ITV and BBC i would rather wash.

However corrie is completely different - theres wit, humour, good storylines which are generally less predictable and a fair amount of drama yes but it just is not so dam depressing all in all.
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Mcdreamy I was just hitting out in general.



See this is what I mean. I can see from your posts your a clear Corrie fan and take this whole ratings thing very serious. I also see from history your fully anti BBC. You can talk until the cow come home about repeat ratings but if your to do that lets talk facts. The EE sunday BBC 1 repeat gets between 1 million to 2 million viewer each week and actually unlike someone else said does often get up to 3 million. Go check Barb. The BBC 10pm repeats also get far more than any of the repeats ITV show of Corrie or Emmerdale.

I think generally EE is still in a good position, the writing is good, it does have some iffy episodes but then so does every soap, it's more consistently enjoyable than it was in 2004 and the cast they have now is very good, and the ratings aren't anything to worry about! It's all scare mongering, they're always lower in the summer, the share is mostly solid and decent. As long as it stays between 35 and 45 percent I don't think there's anything to worry about. On Tuesday it only had 7.6 million viewers but it was a 40 percent share of the audience and it was the highest rating of the day.

Ratings are declining year on year but EastEnders is still a very popular programme. I do think the BBC should promote it more cos' I think it deserves the ratings Corrie gets but you have to remember that Corrie has more OAP fans who stick with the show loyally and it seems they are now giving out new adverts and such. Another thing is that Corrie has always had the edge over EE cos its been going for longer, EE always used to be ahead in the BARB ratings cos' they added the omnibus well they dont do that anymore so people assume its ratings have gone down. The truth is yes they havebut no more from the rest.

But it's still a fact that the 10pm repeat and the omnibus are why EE gets less viewers than Corrie. If there wasnt a 10pm repeat then I bet the viewing figures for the episodes would be higher! Enders fans know that there's two fixed repeats, one of which is on terrestrial telly. Yes Corrie has a repeat/omnibus on ITV2 but it's not at a fixeid time, the late night one is always shifting and is sometimes on as late as midnight. The omnibus is more stable and easy to find but the one they have in the morning is on at a bad time.

EE is doing fine in the ratings - factor in the repeat ratings and it comes out on top still. I know people say we shouldnt do that cos its a repeat but at least 80 percent of the viewers are first time viewers. And it's a repeat of osmething that was shown hours earlier and a couple of days earlier, it's not like adding the ratings for a repeat of a 5 year old episode of Vicar of dibley to the original showing etc like some people say it is as an excuse not to do it. The BEEB look at the ratings across several repeat airings whereas ITV rely on the original showing of a show getting good ratings cos they rely on advertising revenue.

Anyway...EE is in a good position.

I know for a fact that the BEEB have 'Enders on guarantee until at least 2012, it isnt going anywhere! It's a very important show for them. Enders has security on the BBC, thats why I wish ITV werent getting Neighbours - they'll ruin it
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No problem SL.

With regard to all this Eastenders stuff-in these days where 10 million is considered extraordinarily good, 7 to 9 million 4 times per week isnt something a tv station would need worry about.

Of course not. It's still popular.

My Family actually added viewers on last week. Corrie has dropped quite a lot, it was getting 10-11 million just a few weeks ago. EastEnders remains steady.

Well no i dont think they dont think they'd axe it - its one of their most popular programmes and few other BBC or ITV programmes can beat it. Just dont watch it myself anymore.