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DomesticGoddess
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by Fabulicious2007:
“It's not just 'another' talent show though is it, because it's different to what we've been having over the past few years. I think it's quite easy to see why people would rather watch that than Big Brother.”

I am talking about BGT, not BB or TA. BGT is just... I don't know. It is just another ITV show IMO. It isn't different because there have been similar shows like that before. This is why I prefer The Apprentice most of the time or BB.
Agent F
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by DomesticGoddess:
“I am talking about BGT, not BB or TA. BGT is just... I don't know. It is just another ITV show IMO. It isn't different because there have been similar shows like that before. This is why I prefer The Apprentice most of the time or BB.”

Well if we're talking about seeing it all before then, with all due respect, this series of Big Brother is pretty much a prime example of that.
lala
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by Fabulicious2007:
“Well if we're talking about seeing it all before then, with all due respect, this series of Big Brother is pretty much a prime example of that.”

Indeed. BB8 is no different to...... well...... the other BBs surely? Lol
GeorgeS
14-06-2007
There are rumours of panic in the BB production team not just because of ratings but also because the house is so boring this time round. There are rumours of some stunt in the offing. I wonder what that will be?
phillip2
14-06-2007
do we think next year britains got talent will return?and is this the same show based on the same things starting on itv2 next week,americas got talent.
DomesticGoddess
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by Fabulicious2007:
“Well if we're talking about seeing it all before then, with all due respect, this series of Big Brother is pretty much a prime example of that.”

Arrgh, but if you read what I said, "The Apprentice most of the time", which implies that I watch the other show when there isn't anything else on.

The Apprentice is so much better though! How can BGT do better than this new and original show. The latter is another show that ITV always does. I just don't know why we don't get bord of it. Like, I don't mind if there are long running shows like this or BB or The Apprentice, but when new ones keep coming on air, it just gets boring. (Also, BB is fresh, otherwise it would never have been a success in the first place, like The Apprentice).
ZoeMcCallister
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by phillip2:
“do we think next year britains got talent will return?and is this the same show based on the same things starting on itv2 next week,americas got talent.”

I would have thought it would make a return...maybe playing out each Saturday night as Pokerface played out through one week and when it got good ratings a new show was comissioned playing out on Saturday nights.
GeorgeS
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“I would have thought it would make a return...maybe playing out each Saturday night as Pokerface played out through one week and when it got good ratings a new show was comissioned playing out on Saturday nights.”

I suppose it depends on Cowell's schedule. Cowell is busy with American Idol until the 3rd week in May. I dont think Cowell adds too much to BGT. To be honest they could do it without him on Saturday nights after dancing on Ice finishes.
Agent F
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by DomesticGoddess:
“Arrgh, but if you read what I said, "The Apprentice most of the time", which implies that I watch the other show when there isn't anything else on.

The Apprentice is so much better though! How can BGT do better than this new and original show. The latter is another show that ITV always does. I just don't know why we don't get bord of it. Like, I don't mind if there are long running shows like this or BB or The Apprentice, but when new ones keep coming on air, it just gets boring. (Also, BB is fresh, otherwise it would never have been a success in the first place, like The Apprentice).”

BGT didn't do better than The Apprentice - they were neck and neck for pretty much the whole hour. And I am fan of The Apprentice (search my posts) so you're preaching to the choir in that respect.
ZoeMcCallister
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I suppose it depends on Cowell's schedule. Cowell is busy with American Idol until the 3rd week in May. I dont think Cowell adds too much to BGT. To be honest they could do it without him on Saturday nights after dancing on Ice finishes.”

Cowell is certainly a busy man-he must be starting the X Factor soon! Though, yes, BGT would work without him unlike the X Factor which i think he adds a lot too.
zapp
14-06-2007
Piers has to do America's Got Talent too so a weekly series would be higly unlikely without changes
lala
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by zapp:
“Piers has to do America's Got Talent too so a weekly series would be higly unlikely without changes”

Well the 'live' stages of America's Got Talent doesn't come on until July...... So an extended BGT for next year could work.
zapp
14-06-2007
But it would only be six weeks maximum if it went weekly which isn't really enough. Plus its destroying Big Brother on the other side so i think ITV will keep the daily format
C14E
14-06-2007
When I first heard about BGT, I thought it would be getting about 5-5.5m a night because it had Ant & Dec as well as Simon Cowell. Also, it has been successful all over the world.

Personally, I never thought I would switch over to it from BB. But, after watching it on Saturday night, I was convinced. Its such a basic idea, yet it has a real freshness about it. Its great weekday viewing because it isn't too heavy, and I spend half the time laughing at the judges, Ant and Dec, and the performers (both the good and the bad). I find it very light hearted compared to X Factor. Looking at the main BGT thread, it seems alot of other people who were apprehensive about it have been swayed as well.

Of course, BB being sooooo dull and recycled didn't put much competition against BGT. With 6.8m in a very tough slot last night, it should keep over 7 million tonight, a huge accomplishment for a non-soap summer show.

I think it could still be done weekly in March/April time. I think Simon racks up alot of air miles anyway as so much of his work is based in London.
lala
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by zapp:
“But it would only be six weeks maximum if it went weekly which isn't really enough. Plus its destroying Big Brother on the other side so i think ITV will keep the daily format”

No I think they should keep the daily format some what..... But they could extend the show to last maybe a further 2 weeks next year.
GeorgeS
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I think Simon racks up alot of air miles anyway as so much of his work is based in London.”

Cowell must plant a lot of trees to offset all that carbon he is generating. He could have his own forrest by now!
C14E
14-06-2007
Well, I said earlier that BGT would fall for the semi-finals, and I still stand by that. I think it will be lucky to pass 7 million tonight. BB should regain something from last night.

Predictions:
BGT: 6.6 million
BB: 2.7 million

Incidentally, BGT will probably continue to fall until the final. Friday night ratings are awful everywhere just now, and it didn't do that well last Saturday night (compared to weeknights). Sunday will probably manage above 7 million again.
GeorgeS
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Incidentally, BGT will probably continue to fall until the final.”


Right..........

I'd say:

9pm
BGT 7.2m
Daziel & Pascoe 5.1m
Big Brother 2.5m
RobbieSykes123
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“With regard to Emmerdale/Eastenders.I am trying to work out just what ITV is trying to achieve by continuing direct scheduling. Is it desperation? - ie trying to boost dwindling overall audience share.Are they perhaps trying to kill EE? -if so they will have to do it on other days too as EE's figures appear to rebound to their usual totals when there is no conflict.
The Beeb used to move EE to 8.00 when Emmerdale had a special but stopped doing this to prevent accusations of chasing ratings.I wonder if they will revert to that strategy if Emm continues with the hour long shows?”

The answer for BBC1 is simple. Next time ITV runs a one hour Emmerdale on a Tuesday, make a late schedule change on Monday evening by moving Tuesday's EE forward to 8.30pm on Monday, thus becoming a one hour EastEnders, and put Panorama on Tuesday at 7.30. Crushing Coro St's 2nd episode will put a stop to ITV's silly games.

Time for the BBC to get even.

Re BGT, the ratings success enjoyed by this latest in a line of creative, innovative and ground-breaking programming from ITV1 is yet another nail in the coffin for quality British television.

On a more positive note, with ITV's usual appetite for bludgeoning the goose that laid the golden egg, I expect viewers' appetites for reality/talent show shite will soon wane from all the over-exposure, and a year-round schedule of talent shows 50 wks a year. Look what happened to Millionaire and its over-exposure - 16m down to 3m.
Agent F
14-06-2007
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RobbieSykes123
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Right..........

I'd say:

9pm
BGT 7.2m
Daziel & Pascoe 5.1m
Big Brother 2.5m”

Can't see D&P doing as well as that. 4.5m tops, it will be crushed by the pap on the other side. More crap scheduling by BBC1 of one of its more popular shows - this should be showing on a Saturday, Sunday or Monday, not dumped in a graveyard Thurs/Fri slot.

I remain convinced that BBC1's scheduler is an ITV double-agent. Lenny Henry's little-watched outing the other night being more evidence of this - nice work, that man....
square_eyes
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“The answer for BBC1 is simple. Next time ITV runs a one hour Emmerdale on a Tuesday, make a late schedule change on Monday evening by moving Tuesday's EE forward to 8.30pm on Monday and put Panorama on Tuesday at 7.30. Crushing Coro St's 2nd episode will put a stop to ITV's silly games.

Time for the BBC to get even.

Re BGT, the ratings success enjoyed by this latest in a line of creative, innovative and ground-breaking programming from ITV1 is yet another nail in the coffin for quality British television.

On a more positive note, with ITV's usual appetite for bludgeoning the goose that laid the golden egg, I expect viewers' appetites for reality/talent show shite will soon wane from all the over-exposure, and a year-round schedule of talent shows 50 wks a year. Look what happened to Millionaire and its over-exposure - 16m down to 3m.”


Oh dear, you sound bitter, it's only television.
Agent F
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Oh dear, you sound bitter, it's only television.”

I said the same but decided not post it.
RobbieSykes123
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by Fabulicious2007:
“I said the same but decided not post it. ”

Oh, sorry. Didn't realise we couldn't express our opinions on here.
mattpinder
14-06-2007
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Time for the BBC to get even.”

Not gonna happen i'm afraid.
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