Recorded a couple of films over Christmas and edited them down to take the adverts down. When I go to transfer them to DVD I get a warning about cannot do a hi speed copy and sure enough when I check them out they are in 4:3.

They show on the DVR as WS but fail to transfer the flag over. Is there some software that will add a flag? Do I need to do it before/after I finish the DVD?

I think the way I've seen recommended here is to write it to DVDRW then on a PC use a free program (can't remember the name of it - if you do a search on these forums you might be able to find it) to load it in and add the widescreen flag. Then burn it back to DVD.

The other thing is - why won't it let you do a high-speed copy? Are you changing the compression in order to fit it onto one DVD?
Last edited by Chris Simon : 05-01-2007 at 20:47

The reason you can't copy them at high speed is likely you recorded in XP or SP and the quality level needs to change to fit on a dvd.

Any real time conversion will also lose any WSS even if you had it in the first place.

Record in the relevant quality onto -RW.

Then download IFO Edit .

Copy the dvdrw to the PC HDD (I use dvd shrink) ,when the dvd ejects and asks for a blank open the dvd file using IFO Edit and adjust the 4:3 to 16:9 for each file,then save.

Push the RW back in to the PC,erase and write the new correct files to the dvd.

I always use an RW to ensure the new copy is correct.

The using the Pioneer Disc Backup feature just clone the RW onto a -R disc

IFO Edit - that's the one!

Hi Guys, both films were recorded in LP and are 90 minutes each so will easily fit on one DVD. I get the message when I add the first film to the list to be recorded so again it's not a space thing. I've recorded the film to a RW but can't see anything on IFOedit that will adjust the screen size. Mike, can you give me a clue where it is hidden or called? Thx.

Is it trying to re-encode to SP? When you add the first film to the copy list, accept the warning message then go into the list and edit the title (highlight it and press Select). Then go into recording mode. High Speed Copy should be selected at the top of the list? OR maybe you can only do high speed copies with SP, I'm not sure.

BTW I'm giving instructions for my 630H - I assume yours will have the same menu system.

Hmm, in my manual it says that depending on the title, high speed copying may not be possible to a Video mode disc. One example it gives where it is not possible is:

"Widescreen titles recorded at low resolution (SEP through to LP with Video Mode off)"

That could be your problem! In the future, either always record in SP or turn Video Mode on.

Cracked it, helps If you're using a modern IFOedit. What a palarva! Chris, I don't think it was trying to change LP to SP but I haven't checked. I'll have a look when I've finished transferring the films back to DVD and reburning. There must be an easier way

Whilst I've got people attnetions anyone found a cheap supply for -R dual layer discs or a way to make the 5xoH use +R DLs? I hear the later versions can use +Rs which are plentiful and cheap.
Last edited by Buelligan : 05-01-2007 at 22:13

What type of editing did you do ? Frame-accurate ?
Last edited by Cobson : 08-01-2007 at 15:57

Nope. vid.

Can only think this must be a Sky issue. Never seen this problem recording from cable or external freeview PVR. Filmflex titles don't have this problem (even over a macrovision cable).

It does seem odd though - if the Pioneer plays it as widescreen then it should record it as widescreen, the original source shouldn't matter.

Yes it does.

It may be output as widescreen from Sky (or Freeview) but recording WSS to dvd is a dodgy issue.

Very few dvd recorders will record WSS on to DVD.
Panasonic can with RAM and Pioneer will with -RW(VR).

If the recording is on the HDD WSS is retained.
Panasonic cannot even transfer WSS from HDD to -R.

Pioneer will but only with a high speed copy.
If you perform a real time rate conversion from HDD to DVD the WSS is lost ,as are chapter stops you placed.

Any rate converted dvd's are best burned to RW then WSS can be altered by IFO Edit before burning back to -R

Hi


The Pioneer handles widescreen switching perfectly, if realtime or high speed copying. It's one of the few DVD Recorders that will!

The problem is likely that during editing a few frames of 4:3 adverts or trailer during the film still remain. Pioneer recorders get around mixed aspect ratios by spliting them into separate titles (as per the DVD Video spec) when copying to DVD, but if it is only a few frames this isn't enough for it to split so it defaults to no widescreen flag.

Regards

Phil

Just been looking through the manual for my 540HX and it appears WSS switching is supported when copying to a VR-mode DVD-R, DVD-RW or DVD-RAM disk. WSS will not be copyed in DVD Video mode, or to either DVD+R/RW format. I found this in the table on page 8 of the manual.

Odd. So the 540 will not copy in video mode (the reverse of the 520)? Still at least you can record to dual layer +Rs, dead jealous. Wish Pioneer would bring out a sofware update to allow the the 520 to do so. DL -Rs are either £3 each or scarse as finding a virgin on a Friday night in Southampton to find.

Hi


Wide screen switching is supported in DVD Video mode providing you high speed copy. If you need to reduce the size to fit on a DVD, simply use a DVD-RW in VR mode, realtime copy to the VR mode disc, then high speed copy back to the hard-drive then high-speed copy to DVD-R/+R, works a treat. Real-time recording to DVD with widescreen switching requires VR mode.

Regards

Phil
Last edited by PhilipL : 13-01-2007 at 17:07

Had this problem many times, philipL post has the answer

The Pioneer handles widescreen switching perfectly, if realtime or high speed copying. It's one of the few DVD Recorders that will!

The problem is likely that during editing a few frames of 4:3 adverts or trailer during the film still remain. Pioneer recorders get around mixed aspect ratios by spliting them into separate titles (as per the DVD Video spec) when copying to DVD, but if it is only a few frames this isn't enough for it to split so it defaults to no widescreen flag.


Bri.

must admit I am fairly accurate with the editing.. or at least I thought I was. At least there is a resolve (for those with PCs and an ounce of savvy) even If it is a bit convaluted.

No it doesn't!

As I said, if you have recorded something to HDD in WS then you should then be able to copy it to DVD in WS. The source shouldn't matter. Which is why his problem is puzzling.

Yes it has to be done in high-speed. The OP already knows that.

This isn't the Panasonic forum, we are only talking about Pioneers here.

As someone else mentioned, the only glitch is when you get a few frames of 4:3 left over after editing.
Last edited by Cobson : 15-01-2007 at 09:39