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Nicky's scores were blatant attention-seeking
Quannoi
27-01-2007
There's only time to speak to 2 judges between each programme, and he went for controversial scores purely to a) ensure that he was one of them more often than not, and b) try to cement his status as the Simon Cowell of DOI.

And anyway, shouldn't he be getting back to Lost Island so that Jack can operate on his spine?
cazzbar
27-01-2007
Is he suffering from an eye infection? They seem very red and leaky - I couldn't concentrate on a word he said - couldn't take my eyes of em.
SparkleBabe
27-01-2007
Yeah, Nicky was never this petty last year. He seems very subdued this time around. I think he had unresolved issues with Karen reading between the lines.
allyfree
27-01-2007
Originally Posted by SparkleBabe:
“Yeah, Nicky was never this petty last year. He seems very subdued this time around. I think he had unresolved issues with Karen reading between the lines.”

From the interview on "Defrosted" it looks like they all have issues with each other. What a miserable, disinterested bunch they all seemed to be :yawn:
DebbieH
28-01-2007
Originally Posted by cazzbar:
“Is he suffering from an eye infection? They seem very red and leaky - I couldn't concentrate on a word he said - couldn't take my eyes of em. ”

He might have just been tired. He’d flown back from Warsaw, either on Friday night or Saturday morning, from where he was commentating on the European championships for Eurosport. I know it’s not really a long flight, but if they do they do similar rehearsals to SCD then they might start quite early on the Saturday morning, even for the judges.

Perhaps his tiredness might explain his cranky scoring as well!
Pingman
28-01-2007
I thought Natalia's outfit was funny. She looked like a Russian General!

Dave
Sallyforth
28-01-2007
Having heard Nicky commentate on skating a few times, to be fair I do think his system of scores was consistent from one skater to another and reflected his stance about looking for the performance of certain elements and then marking relative positions between skaters.

The low overall base of his range of scores is another matter though.
One and Only
28-01-2007
Since we have just had round two,I think he is right to leave lots of room for improvement in this scores.
Kienaide Niji
28-01-2007
The Expression "Bear With A Sore Head" came to mind with Nicky yesterday. I mean Ye Gad man, Cheer up! It's not the end of the world!
Pingman
28-01-2007
Originally Posted by cazzbar:
“Is he suffering from an eye infection? They seem very red and leaky - I couldn't concentrate on a word he said - couldn't take my eyes of em. ”

He looked like he had been chopping onions.

Dave
glitterbug
28-01-2007
The thing I didn't get on a couple of the marks was why, when (eg) Nicky gave 2.5 and Jason gave 3.0, they still go straight to Jason to "explain himself" for giving a low mark? Maybe that's why Nicky's scores stayed low!
Pingman
28-01-2007
Jason reminds me of a cartoon character because he has worn exactly the same style of outfit two weeks running, just a different coloured top.

Dave
glitterbug
28-01-2007
Originally Posted by Pingman:
“Jason reminds me of a cartoon character because he has worn exactly the same style of outfit two weeks running, just a different coloured top.

Dave”

Major hickey?!
Innocent_fairy
28-01-2007
I think it's funny how Jason always wears a polo neck jumper with a jacket I do like him though, even though sometimes he is a bit out of order with how he voices his opinions.

I too noticed Nicky's eyes! They looked very puffy! After covering up Kay's black one, you would think they would have managed to do something with his

Also, last week, did anybody else notice how it looked like Robin Cousins had had an allergic reaction or something on the skin on his neck/chest. From what you could see of him, it looked very red! (His face was unaffected though......)
La Rhumba
28-01-2007
Poor Nicky! He's always had those heavy lazy eyelids going back 25 years! Also he's spent a week in Warsaw commentating, on the Friday he watched 6 hours of Ladies Short Programme, then after only half an hour's break straight into the Freedance, then flew back to London on Saturday morning early, straight to DOI.

I actually think he's an excellent commentator and I understand his methods in marking.
glitterbug
28-01-2007
Originally Posted by La Rhumba:
“Poor Nicky! He's always had those heavy lazy eyelids going back 25 years! Also he's spent a week in Warsaw commentating, on the Friday he watched 6 hours of Ladies Short Programme, then after only half an hour's break straight into the Freedance, then flew back to London on Saturday morning early, straight to DOI.

I actually think he's an excellent commentator and I understand his methods in marking. ”

Oh I do feel sorry for these poor sports commentators, must be terrible watching something you love for so long...

As for the method, if Nicky's using the relative positioning system I want to know what his median mark is and how he works it out because it still looks skewed to me. Although for what it's worth I didn't really notice his eyes!
La Rhumba
28-01-2007
I dunno about you, but I was exhausted watching while sitting on the sofa! Never mind being perched up high, squashed into a group of endless Eurosport different language commentators, in a freezing rink with little food or drink, concentrating on 10 hours of skating in one day, then flying back straight to DOI, so yeah, I think he's entitled to feel tired, so when you've tried that and are fresh maybe you could pass on your secrets.

Oh, and a median mark doesn't work on DOI, because as he explained they are only allowed to mark in increments of .5, they can't give a 4.2 or whatever can they?
Last edited by La Rhumba : 28-01-2007 at 21:23
glitterbug
28-01-2007
Originally Posted by LaRhumba:
“I dunno about you, but I was exhausted watching while sitting on the sofa! Never mind being perched up high, squashed into a group of endless Eurosport different language commentators, in a freezing rink with little food or drink, concentrating on 10 hours of skating in one day, then flying back straight to DOI, so yeah, I think he's entitled to feel tired, so when you've tried that and are fresh maybe you could pass on your secrets.

Oh, and a median mark doesn't work on DOI, because as he explained they are only allowed to mark in increments of .5, they can't give a 4.2 or whatever can they?”

Lol, well my last freezing, unfed, 10-hour shift was as a cater waitress - if anyone wants to offer me the same stint with fabulous skating in place of drunk office parties, I'll be all too happy to see how I cope! Personally I find going to competitions more stimulating than exhausting but maybe I'm lucky...

I agree it's a hindrance that the increments are so spaced out, but relative marking has to be relative to something! If it can't be a median mark, which in this case is admittedly problematic, it should be skater to skater, which I didn't see - I noticed three skaters given the same mark (the infamous 2.5). The lack of available marks is a problem for all the judges, but I don't think relative placing explains low scoring when, on the basis of individual judges' marks, skaters are so often tied.
La Rhumba
29-01-2007
I think he probably just had a bad week, hopefully he'll be tip top next Saturday.
Emms
29-01-2007
According to some comments made during the Europeans this week, Nicky has been ill whilst in Warsaw. He didn't want to go into details; just said that he'd been losing a lot of weight (so it doesn't take much imagination to work out what sort of bug he's had). That might explain why he was looking a bit rough on Saturday night
La Rhumba
29-01-2007
Oh dear. Plus it was minus zero and snowing in warsaw, and on the Friday he commentated on 38 Ladies in the SP from 11am till 5pm....yes, 38!!

Then 20 mins break till the FD Final of 23 couples [one withdrew with a broken ankle]. That would be tough going for a well person, never mind a poorly person who has to fly home early the next morning to apear on TV.
laura82
30-01-2007
He wanted a slap after Saturday nights performance. It was ridiculous marking.

Plus as glitterbug said i want to know why when Nicky twive gave lower marks they went to Jason. Possibly cause Jason gives the more interesting comments!!!!
Last edited by laura82 : 30-01-2007 at 20:18
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