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Old 28-01-2007, 10:31
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We have been told that either Sun Hill or Barton Street will have to close. In all honesty after the major c**k up of Zain being under cover which resulted in three people including a policewoman being killed would Sun Hill be chosen to remain open?
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Old 28-01-2007, 10:52
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If this were real life then probably not. However, we're supposed to suspend disbelief while watching a police programme with so many character deaths so taking it one step futher to believe it would survive isn't too much of a stretch.
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Old 28-01-2007, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Imogen Tate
We have been told that either Sun Hill or Barton Street will have to close. In all honesty after the major c**k up of Zain being under cover which resulted in three people including a policewoman being killed would Sun Hill be chosen to remain open?
Good point - for a police station it's had a rather chequered existence. It's had it's fair share of scandals irrespective of who's been in charge e.g. Don Beech and allegations of lack of supervision in CID (which was then basically ripped apart), the Tom Chandler scandal, Gabriel Kent etc.
If it was true to life then it would be a "no brainer" - i.e. close down the station which has least public confidence, after all - the incumbent Superintendant is always going on about bad press, complaints from the local councillors re lack of police presence etc.
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Old 28-01-2007, 11:15
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Originally Posted by CharmedLassie
If this were real life then probably not. However, we're supposed to suspend disbelief while watching a police programme with so many character deaths so taking it one step futher to believe it would survive isn't too much of a stretch.


Even before Honey's death Sun Hill should have been renamed
Boot Hill. More police officers must have been murdered there in the last decade than in the rest of the entire police force.

The county constabulary where I live has 'lost' just two officers on duty in the last ten years and they died in road accidents.
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Old 28-01-2007, 11:20
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Originally Posted by hattersfan
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The county constabulary where I live has 'lost' just two officers on duty in the last ten years and they died in road accidents.
O/T - I've seen your login name - anything to do with Stockport County?
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Old 28-01-2007, 11:56
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The real question is would Jack be the DCI after?

I mean theres Don Beech, Phil's carless stunts and now Zain...
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Old 28-01-2007, 12:03
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I agree with you phil and grant, after all he protected Zain when others doubted him.
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Old 28-01-2007, 12:10
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What was the name of that mad woman. Was it Kathy
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Old 28-01-2007, 12:33
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Originally Posted by sjw8
Good point - for a police station it's had a rather chequered existence. It's had it's fair share of scandals irrespective of who's been in charge e.g. Don Beech and allegations of lack of supervision in CID (which was then basically ripped apart), the Tom Chandler scandal, Gabriel Kent etc.
If it was true to life then it would be a "no brainer" - i.e. close down the station which has least public confidence, after all - the incumbent Superintendant is always going on about bad press, complaints from the local councillors re lack of police presence etc.
Bt you've got to remember the TB is a police drama, if you look at another programme like corrie or EE they've had there fair amount of scandls and murders and thats just in one strret/square
It says in a TV mag that honey is reported missing and it looks like the station has done enough to stay open, so it looks the decision was made before the zain scandel. and don't forget we don't know what Barton Street have done.
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Old 28-01-2007, 13:05
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Jack Meadows and Phil Hunter would almost certainly be hauled up in front of a disciplinary and would most likely lose their jobs. Particularly as Phil knew about Zain sleeping with Kristen.

But don't forget that most of Sunhill CID were sacked after the Don Beech fiasco.
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Old 28-01-2007, 13:12
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Originally Posted by Mr Poetic
What was the name of that mad woman. Was it Kathy
Cathy Bradford... one of the best characters ever! Her psychotic tendencies knew no bounds...

Originally Posted by CPFC
Jack Meadows and Phil Hunter would almost certainly be hauled up in front of a disciplinary and would most likely lose their jobs. Particularly as Phil knew about Zain sleeping with Kristen.

But don't forget that most of Sunhill CID were sacked after the Don Beech fiasco.
But remember, this is The Bill of 2007. They wouldn't risk getting rid of a whole bunch of characters, particularly popular ones like Jack, Phil and Sam. I think lessons have been learned from the CID clear out of 2000.

It appears from reading spoilers that Sun Hill's future could be saved and Zain's antics might not have much of an impact.

To be honest, The Bill doesn't really do the consequences of these types of storylines very well anymore. We've had Hunter's, Bradford's and Kent's antics exposed, but nothing has been done about it, particularly Hunter's. Zain might be the only one to face some justice, but I doubt there will be a huge fall-out over it. A few slapped wrists (maybe).
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Old 28-01-2007, 13:15
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of course - I wasn't suggesting that they'd clear out CID again! I wouldn't want them to anyway as it's at it's strongest in quite a while IMO.
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Old 28-01-2007, 13:17
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Originally Posted by sjw8
O/T - I've seen your login name - anything to do with Stockport County?

The southern version (from Bedfordshire). Not a ghttp://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12786380#
frown (sad)ood time to be a Luton fan but it goes with the territory.
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Old 28-01-2007, 13:18
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Originally Posted by CPFC
of course - I wasn't suggesting that they'd clear out CID again! I wouldn't want them to anyway as it's at it's strongest in quite a while IMO.
LOL! Sorry for the misunderstanding...

I agree, I like CID at the moment. It's a pity that we're losing Zain and Kezia is still there ( ) but I feel, on the whole, CID is strong.
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Old 28-01-2007, 13:57
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Nooooo does that mean Honey died??? I missed it!
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Old 28-01-2007, 14:37
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yeah kristen killed her !
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Old 28-01-2007, 14:44
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In reality Sun Hill would face closure due to all the mishaps over the past months/years!
But if Sun Hill was to close, would there be any more Bill???
Considering The Bill is based around Sun Hill & that Gillian Taylforths Character has apparently just joined Sun Hill from Barton Street, you'd think that it was Barton Street set to close!

Rock On Sun Hill - You Brighten My Week

Was sad when Honey got killed by that evil witch Kristin! I think Zain should hand her in!!!
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Old 28-01-2007, 15:22
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i'd like to c okaro back
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Old 28-01-2007, 15:54
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Shall we do a list of who has died in recent years? from the top of my head i can think of:
*Honey
*Cass
*Kerry
*Des
*John Boulton
*Marylin
*people in the explosion- names escape me apart from Sam Harker
*Eddie Santine

All of these characters have been killed in a malicios way, none of these deaths have been accidental apart from maybe Des' but that was only an accident in the sense he was put in a cell with a mad person by accident
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Old 28-01-2007, 16:02
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Originally Posted by cussywoo
*Kerry
Aww I miss Kerry, gorgeous!! I enjoyed the Radford plot immensley
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Old 28-01-2007, 16:17
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ye, i think they played it really well, they did evil family perfectly. the fact that the head of the family was the mom made it even better, i know in this day and age men and women are meant to be equal (grrr i hate all this PC crap!) but you expect a woman to be less evil that a man could be. this was completly the opposite of what we saw.

In all fairness i thought they also did the sun hill serial killer storyline excelently!!! even if it did mean the loss of Cass
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Old 28-01-2007, 16:34
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Originally Posted by cussywoo
Shall we do a list of who has died in recent years? from the top of my head i can think of:
*Honey
*Cass
*Kerry
*Des
*John Boulton
*Marylin
*people in the explosion- names escape me apart from Sam Harker
*Eddie Santine
Don't forget the gay serial killer that caught up with Lance, although that wasn't a great loss was it?
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Old 28-01-2007, 18:17
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While Paul Marquess was Exec. producer there was a death nearly every episode!
It's calmed down since Paul Young took over though. Honeys is the first death in over a year
The Bills currently more credable then ever sinse 2002 realy.
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Old 28-01-2007, 18:43
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Originally Posted by xxx-treacle-xxx
yeah kristen killed her !
But not deliberately
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Old 28-01-2007, 18:46
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Originally Posted by jackmcglen
While Paul Marquess was Exec. producer there was a death nearly every episode!
It's calmed down since Paul Young took over though. Honeys is the first death in over a year
The Bills currently more credable then ever sinse 2002 realy.
I love the Bill but it is totally unrealistic. Take last Thursday for example. All the uniform shift were taken off regular duties to be involved in the Drugs bust. They do this all the while. I take it that nothing else ever happens durinmg these ' raids'. Where did the Superintendent disappear to halfway through the crisis
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