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Old 12-07-2007, 19:37
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every tv needs either adapting (with a freeview, cable, or satellite box), or replaced with a tv that has freeview built in.

If you intend to carry on using VHS to record, each machine will need a digital box (satellite, Cable, or Freeview). But many people prefer to ditch the old VHS and switch to a digital recorder - either a DVD Recorder which has in built Freeview, a hard disc (pvr) recorder with either inbuilt Freeview or Sky+, or a combination of tv with in built Freeview and a standard Sky satellite box hooked up as well.

Where Freeview is not yet broadcast, you are stuck with analogue. Most tv's with inbuilt freeview also contain an analogue circuit for normal tv as well. But the sticking point is recording - for the most part, a hard disc (pvr) recorder for freeview or a DVD Recorder with inbuilt Freeview cant be used to record analogue channels.

Just as with analogue, you have a choice of having an aerial for each tv or a single aerial with a multi-way amplifier box which is used to feed signals to multiple rooms. I strongly recommend the latter - much better not to have multiple aerials on the roof, and more consistant results. Each room gets the best signal poss.

If you choose the satellite option, you could have a Sky, Sky+, or SkyHD digi box on one tv, or on all of them (requires Sky "multiroom" subscription). But you can also have freesatfrom Sky - no subscription - just the free channels via satellite. Some people may have only this option in the house, while others will have one box with some form of subscription (eg, Sport), while the others are running on freesatfrom Sky. Regardless, with the satellite option, most people should have a single dish, and for any form of satellite multiroom, a multiway LNB - with multiple wires running to the various locations in the house.

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Old 26-07-2007, 15:16
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removed. I did mot notice date of original posting. duh!!!!!
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Old 29-07-2007, 17:30
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:49
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Here is the proposed time table for switching to Digital only
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DATE....................STATION...................REGION.
Oct-2007.......... Whitehaven................Borders
Nov-2008 .........SELKIRK......................Borders



Nov-2008 .........SELKIRK......................Borders
Apr-2009 ..........BEACON HILL..............SW England
About the first two above DSO switch overs.

Is it known why there will be a 13 month gap between the two dates. Surely if for testing it would not take 13 months. Maybe 1 or 2 weeks, but not 13 months.

This gap in time is holding back the uk dso swichover timetable. Little wonder the timetable is being dragged out. For this uneeded 1 year and 1 month gap.

Then you notice even the next two is a 5 month gap. Thereafter its one or two each month. Why not one or two each month from the first dso switchover.
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Old 14-09-2007, 17:59
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Leeds, Yorkshire - (All Areas) May 2011
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Old 03-10-2007, 15:27
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How sad. So TV news this morning and DS in their news stories have details of the new "switchover postcode checker" at http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ which is all very slick and fancy. Only thing is it's telling me that amongst other things I can receive ABC1 and FTN?!?

You'd have thought that if they knew it was to be launched today they'd have made sure the channel list was up to date on launch day.
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Old 18-10-2007, 11:17
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Well That's it started now
Next switch off, 14th November
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Old 18-10-2007, 21:06
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I take it it will be the terrestrial channels in Whitehaven
I did hear that less than 2000 homes were ready

Out of 25.000 that is not bad - 4 percent
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Old 29-10-2007, 14:41
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Selkirk next for switchover

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Old 17-11-2007, 06:41
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About the first two above DSO switch overs.

Is it known why there will be a 13 month gap between the two dates. Surely if for testing it would not take 13 months. Maybe 1 or 2 weeks, but not 13 months.

This gap in time is holding back the uk dso swichover timetable. Little wonder the timetable is being dragged out. For this uneeded 1 year and 1 month gap.

Then you notice even the next two is a 5 month gap. Thereafter its one or two each month. Why not one or two each month from the first dso switchover.
Does anyone know the reason for such huge gaps in the switchover timetable. I'm pissed off with there being such large gaps. What are they planning to do in these big gaps. besides getting paid for doing sweet F'All.

Its not like theres a rush to ensure we have digital many months earlier. Meanwhile we are are all low power from our local transmitters.

Digital is poorly mismanaged, and the government is pushing everyone to get it now. What a bloody farce digital tv switchover is turning out to be.

Meanwhile i see its not 2011 or 2012 last switchover its now 2013. Showing the levels of incompetance that are Aquiva, and all other switchover mangements that are in charge of the digital switchover.

Can someone here find out what the big hold ups are for.
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Old 17-11-2007, 13:27
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Does anyone know the reason for such huge gaps in the switchover timetable. I'm pissed off with there being such large gaps. What are they planning to do in these big gaps. besides getting paid for doing sweet F'All.

Its not like theres a rush to ensure we have digital many months earlier. Meanwhile we are are all low power from our local transmitters.

Digital is poorly mismanaged, and the government is pushing everyone to get it now. What a bloody farce digital tv switchover is turning out to be.

Meanwhile i see its not 2011 or 2012 last switchover its now 2013. Showing the levels of incompetance that are Aquiva, and all other switchover mangements that are in charge of the digital switchover.

Can someone here find out what the big hold ups are for.
How long would it take you to refit 1100 transmitters with new equipment, electrical supplies and in some cases rebuild the mast?

Working at a rate of one a day including weekends would take 3 years.

Then you need a new distribution system to feed all those transmitters with the right signals.
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Old 17-11-2007, 16:46
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Meanwhile i see its not 2011 or 2012 last switchover its now 2013.
It's always been 2013 - but that's for the Channel Islands, the rest of the network is switched over by (mid?) 2012.

Can someone here find out what the big hold ups are for.
Probably due to re-engineering, distribution of a second set of multiplexes post-DSO (with mode and channel changes), some leeway in case of unforeseen problems at Whitehaven, advance notice and marketing for the next region, transmitter network planning finalisation and potential additional international clearance, transmission company engineers also working on big DAB rollouts (for 4digital and local multiplexes), equipment supply and delivery, hesitation by Ofcom over how many multiplexes transmitters will get (DDR spectrum, HDTV) etc etc etc and that's just off the top of my head.

I don't think there are any hold-ups, none of the dates have changed since they were officially announced. The 1-year gap was always there.
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Old 18-11-2007, 09:59
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It's always been 2013 - but that's for the Channel Islands, the rest of the network is switched over by (mid?) 2012.



Probably due to re-engineering, distribution of a second set of multiplexes post-DSO (with mode and channel changes), some leeway in case of unforeseen problems at Whitehaven, advance notice and marketing for the next region, transmitter network planning finalisation and potential additional international clearance, transmission company engineers also working on big DAB rollouts (for 4digital and local multiplexes), equipment supply and delivery, hesitation by Ofcom over how many multiplexes transmitters will get (DDR spectrum, HDTV) etc etc etc and that's just off the top of my head.

I don't think there are any hold-ups, none of the dates have changed since they were officially announced. The 1-year gap was always there.

In some cases where actual antennae needs looked at and or changed, repaired, and installed,
on main stations you're talking several 100's of feet with no lift
(except Emley Moor, God bless Emley Moor and all who sail in her)
work can only take place in the summer months or at least when the air is settled
so work can take place. It's cold up there, even in the summer.
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Old 18-11-2007, 14:35
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In some cases where actual antennae needs looked at and or changed, repaired, and installed,
on main stations you're talking several 100's of feet with no lift
(except Emley Moor, God bless Emley Moor and all who sail in her)
work can only take place in the summer months or at least when the air is settled
so work can take place. It's cold up there, even in the summer.
And some sites are getting everything put onto a temporary mast while the main one is rebuilt or whatever...
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Old 20-11-2007, 18:19
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SELKIRK..........Borders.........Nov-2008
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Old 29-11-2007, 16:04
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Does anyone know the reason for such huge gaps in the switchover timetable. I'm pissed off with there being such large gaps. What are they planning to do in these big gaps. besides getting paid for doing sweet F'All.

Its not like theres a rush to ensure we have digital many months earlier. Meanwhile we are are all low power from our local transmitters.

Digital is poorly mismanaged, and the government is pushing everyone to get it now. What a bloody farce digital tv switchover is turning out to be.

Meanwhile i see its not 2011 or 2012 last switchover its now 2013. Showing the levels of incompetance that are Aquiva, and all other switchover mangements that are in charge of the digital switchover.



Can someone here find out what the big hold ups are for.
Maybe you could do a bit of research;
Firstly, find a manufacturer that can supply you with at least 4000 low power digital TV transmitters.
Then look for somebody that can supply new antennas & feeders for all the main stations in the UK.
Also you will need new high power transmitters for all the main stations, that's 6 per site (min).
Now find the workforce to do all this throughout the UK.

Oh and one other point. During the entire project you musn't loose service on any of the analogue services, the current DTT services or any of the VHF radio customers.
You want me to go on?
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Old 29-11-2007, 17:35
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Maybe you could do a bit of research;
Firstly, find a manufacturer that can supply you with at least 4000 low power digital TV transmitters.
Then look for somebody that can supply new antennas & feeders for all the main stations in the UK.
Also you will need new high power transmitters for all the main stations, that's 6 per site (min).
Now find the workforce to do all this throughout the UK.

Oh and one other point. During the entire project you musn't loose service on any of the analogue services, the current DTT services or any of the VHF radio customers.
You want me to go on?
Couldn't have put it better myself
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Old 29-11-2007, 17:54
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It really Pees me off when people just think that DSO means 'Turning Off analogue and turning up the power on the digital kit'. If only it was that simple, it could be completed in a week!
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Old 29-11-2007, 20:25
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Maybe you could do a bit of research;
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You want me to go on?
Couldn't have put it better myself
But you could easily have continued ... continued .... continued ..... :yawn: :yawn:

DSO is not an easy job !
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Old 29-11-2007, 20:31
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It really Pees me off when people just think that DSO means 'Turning Off analogue and turning up the power on the digital kit'. If only it was that simple, it could be completed in a week!
Thank you!

Some parts of the UK there are HUGE problems in receiving analogue, never mind making digital available.
North Wales where I used to Live we constantly suffered interference, TV blackouts, cross channel problems...
The LLandonna Transmitter upped the power of the digital signal when Freeview came to life.
This interfered with S4C and BBC2 on the local analogue only relay...
Even without this you had days where low hanging clouds and shiny wet mountain sides reflected the analogue signal back on itself, and into the digital that other regions usually got with no cross channel interference...
There were loads of small relays to ensure that pockets of low lying land and areas overshadowed by cliffs received TV.
Just ensuring that all those relays could repeat the digital signal to one another will be a mamouth task in itself! Never minding the possible interference and signal losses where the somewhat weaker digital signal gets bounced off wet mountains...
I am sure that many other areas of the country have this complex arrangement and all of these places together - well...
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Old 03-12-2007, 15:16
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Following London's switchover in 2012, am I right in saying that the only terrestrial analogue service still in operation will be that in the lovely Channel Islands?? If so, what is the likelihood that the UK government might go "stuff that, they can look after themselves"?
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Old 03-12-2007, 16:02
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Following London's switchover in 2012, am I right in saying that the only terrestrial analogue service still in operation will be that in the lovely Channel Islands?? If so, what is the likelihood that the UK government might go "stuff that, they can look after themselves"?
Who knows but hey! it's only Television and there's always French TV
Here's a few to be going on with

www.tf1.fr
www.france2.fr
www.france3.fr
www.france4.fr
www.france5.fr
http://www.france24.com/france24Publ...les/monde.html
www.mcm.net
www.mezzo.tv
www.tps.fr/index_p.php?step=none
www.13emerue.fr/13emerue/cache
www.planete.tm.fr
www.rtl9.com
www.comedie.com
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Old 03-12-2007, 22:29
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Following London's switchover in 2012, am I right in saying that the only terrestrial analogue service still in operation will be that in the lovely Channel Islands?? If so, what is the likelihood that the UK government might go "stuff that, they can look after themselves"?
The Channel Islands get DSO in March 2013 and the ITU have already allocated the frequencies.
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Old 03-12-2007, 23:07
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The Channel Islands get DSO in March 2013 and the ITU have already allocated the frequencies.
But can he still watch French TV?
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Old 03-12-2007, 23:14
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But can he still watch French TV?
with a secam TV and a freeview box that is compatible I guess he can watch both!
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