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Tiscali TV launch March 1st, HD PVR in July
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jongatera
05-02-2007
Looks like they have set a date of March 1st for the launch.

From April Tiscali will make the service available outside of London, initially to Newcastle, Birmingham and Edinburgh.

In June, Leeds, Sheffield and Liverpool and by the end of the year, reaching 50% of Tiscali's LLU network (5m homes).

The Big news being "The company will also launch a new set top box in July 2007 that will include a 160Gb HD-ready PVR"

So looks like we will get our PVR, although a bit later than we would of wanted. No news on new channels, content etc. The only details on pricing being that the base TV pack will be free to their existing customers who currently pay £14.99 pm for 2Mb.

All looks promising, I just hope they up the content.

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Peter We
05-02-2007
£14.99. That is cheap, is line rental on top, I wonder?
beckenham8
05-02-2007
It's 14.99 now...for two months!
LondonLad
05-02-2007
hi all 2 Questions

1) as a HC viewer will we automaticly become Tiscali TV from the 1st March???

2) see below
Tiscali TV's basic package will cost £14.99 and will bundle broadband with a basic TV package of 30 channels. Sky One will not be available in the basic pack, but a catch-up TV service for BBC channels and a further 100 hours of on-demand programming including US imports will be included.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...h-march-1.html

does this mean that Sky One will eb available in other packs then??????
Last edited by LondonLad : 05-02-2007 at 16:04
Rufus Londinii
05-02-2007
Originally Posted by LondonLad:
“2) see below
Tiscali TV's basic package will cost £14.99 and will bundle broadband with a basic TV package of 30 channels. Sky One will not be available in the basic pack, but a catch-up TV service for BBC channels and a further 100 hours of on-demand programming including US imports will be included.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...h-march-1.html

does this mean that Sky One will eb available in other packs then??????”

Yes - that caught my eye too. I haven't seen mention of Sky One or the content of any other packs in any other sources so I wouldn't build up my hopes just yet...

£14.99 a month might be enough to keep me subscribing after I move house, though - even if I just have the Base Pack and use Satellite for my other channels...
pissedbob
05-02-2007
Originally Posted by Digital Spy:
“A "big pack", which adds 25 more channels and more on-demand content, will also be available”

This doesn't look like they're expanding the channel line up in any way - that figure adds up to roughly what we've got now, doesn't it?

What it looks like we're getting is a better value package (assuming these aren't "for the first 3 months" prices) rather than more features - though the PVR in the summer sounds good - must be a chargeable add on though, surely.

Edit - Just saw this: http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2005873,00.html
Quote:
“In fact, there is no obligation on Sky to make its basic channels - including Sky One - available to rivals. Tiscali, for instance, is relaunching the Homechoice service next month as Tiscali TV without the channel. In 2002 the Office of Fair Trading found that Sky was dominant in the supply of premium channels - such as its Sky Sports channels - so these have to be made available to rivals. But there is no similar ruling on its basic channels.”


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bennat
05-02-2007
i'm very lucky and have just bought a house in Uxbridge, that already has a Sky + dish on the rear of the property!

I will be able to leave HC now and get SKY +

Have called Sky already and a base pack with Sky including Sky talk and 2mg BB will cost me £24.99 p/m!

Very happy!

Its a shame that HC came in so late with their own PVR
iSix
05-02-2007
I hope this is wrong: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/2...iscali-tv.html
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“Tiscali is managing network capacity by restricting people to 100 hours of video content over the broadband connection on the basic products, or allowing you to upgrade to 1000 hours of on-demand content and another 27 channels for £10 more per month.”

Mus1
05-02-2007
What's the deal with that kind of PVR - can you play it back and record into a DVD recorder?
overscan
06-02-2007
The 1000 hours upgrade is quite interesting. 31 days x 24 hours = 744 hours. Does that mean tiscali are going to give us an extra 10.66 days a month? Sounds like an excellent deal. I've always said that there weren't enough hours in the day to get everything done
Peter We
06-02-2007
Originally Posted by bennat:
“i'm very lucky and have just bought a house in Uxbridge, that already has a Sky + dish on the rear of the property!

I will be able to leave HC now and get SKY +

Have called Sky already and a base pack with Sky including Sky talk and 2mg BB will cost me £24.99 p/m!

Very happy!

Its a shame that HC came in so late with their own PVR”


Great. Goodbye.

Quote:
“What's the deal with that kind of PVR - can you play it back and record into a DVD recorder?”

No its a Personal Video Recorder. It records programs to an inbuilt Hard Disk Drive.
Last edited by Peter We : 06-02-2007 at 10:23
iSix
06-02-2007
Originally Posted by overscan:
“The 1000 hours upgrade is quite interesting. 31 days x 24 hours = 744 hours. Does that mean tiscali are going to give us an extra 10.66 days a month? Sounds like an excellent deal. I've always said that there weren't enough hours in the day to get everything done ”

Ha, well spotted.
Peter We
06-02-2007
Hmm, what about recording 2 channels at once, perfectly feasible with ADSL2+ and SD TV, possibly HDTV as well.
pissedbob
06-02-2007
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“Hmm, what about recording 2 channels at once”

At the very least they'd have to offer the ability to watch one channel while recording another - so this would already require 2 streams.

Watching one while recording 2 is another matter entirely..
Mus1
06-02-2007
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“No its a Personal Video Recorder. It records programs to an inbuilt Hard Disk Drive.”

Yes I know, but can you get the programs recorded on the hard disk out into a DVDR.
iSix
06-02-2007
Maybe if you take the video output from the PVR and send it to a DVDR... presuming they don't have any content protection on...
joshua321
07-02-2007
Questions I still want to know:

Is there any way of archiving recorded programmes from the PVR?

Will the PVR be a free upgrade for existing customers?

How much will the HD homechoice cost vs standard digital one?
overscan
07-02-2007
Originally Posted by joshua321:
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How much will the HD homechoice cost vs standard digital one?”

There has been no mention in any reports of a hi def service. Just a hi def capable box, which could just be future proofing their next gen box for when they finally upgrade to adsl2 and are actually able to offer a hi def service.
bennat
07-02-2007
Hmmmm,

I'm not sure what to do... I'm going to leave Tiscali, and was Sky bound! But now,

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...5-a-month.html

This offer of £85 p/m seems to good to miss!

Including all calls, all broadband (10Mg) a brand new PVR, all sky sports/movie channels!

The comp has seriously hotted up!!!

Tiscali has some serious work to do! This is just no longer competitive!

I think i may be heading to a Virgin service! That offers me everything I need at a super price!
Peter We
08-02-2007
Do it. Just go and stop making a fuss over it.
Rufus Londinii
08-02-2007
Another report at http://www.ispreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/n...ZVFVZuVHMqzvwn - basically the same as previous but with 2 slight nuances

1) £14.99 for TV & Broadband - £19.99 to include weekend phone calls as well (So they've separated the phone package out to make the deal look better?)

2) "Unfortunately the popular SkyOne channel will not be carried and may soon be pulled from 'Virgin Media' as well, depending on negotiations."
bennat
08-02-2007
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“Do it. Just go and stop making a fuss over it.”


Not wanting to start an argument here so i'll keep this short!

I have been posting on this board for some time and have been a HC user for well over 2 yrs now!

I am in a position to possibly leave and am here as everyone else is to discuss, debate and get advice from others!

I have considered Virgin media, I am considering Sky, I may stay with Tiscali??? What I therefore post on here is for people to maybe say stuff like "oh no go with Sky" "Oh no stay clear of Virgin media that is too much money"

Not make silly comments topwards me, and especially considering you dont know me from adam!

Anyway back to the discussions! My above comment I think may be too much money Sky currently offer their 6 mixes + broadband and phone for £26 p/m

My point was that Tiscali will have to keep prices to a minimum now because both Virgin and Sky are realising there is a lot of compotition now with BT and Freeview and prices are being driven down!
Peter We
08-02-2007
Ok, I'll shut up, as long as you stay constructive.

Tiscali do seem to generally aim for the cheapest price. I agree that all this new competition will make things much more interesting, although I want HD more than lower prices.
flashdisk
08-02-2007
Originally Posted by bennat:
“Anyway back to the discussions! My above comment I think may be too much money Sky currently offer their 6 mixes + broadband and phone for £26 p/m”

Sky package requires a BT line, so it's £37

Virgin offers tv/vod, phone line & unlimited broadband for £30

Plus their new free VOD TV channel launching 20th Feb.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....628&highlight=

Virgin Media is making 20 February a red-letter day for TV fans, with the launch of Virgin Central, a revolutionary new kind of television channel.

Virgin Central will herald a new way to watch telly, combining the simplicity of a traditional channel with the choice and control of next generation TV-on-demand technology.

The channel will be free and host a showcase of blockbuster entertainment around the clock, selected from the best of the company's TV-on-demand service. By pressing one button and using a simple on-screen guide, viewers will have instant access to different episodes of the show they select. They can then stop, rewind and pause - just like using a DVD player.

Major series expected on the service over the coming months include The OC, Nip/Tuck, West Wing, Little Britain; Grey's Anatomy, Alias, Criminal Minds, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation and CSI: Miami.
Last edited by flashdisk : 08-02-2007 at 14:19
Rufus Londinii
08-02-2007
Bennat - as per my previous post if you do go for Virgin make sure you get assurances about Sky One...
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