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Old 16-02-2007, 11:30
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Sharon Marshall who is normally quite fair in her soap reviews she claims next weeks EastEnders is very dull.

Whats happened to the show of late? It has been crap and you can't deny it.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Sunflower Seed
Sharon Marshall who is normally quite fair in her soap reviews she claims next weeks EastEnders is very dull.

Whats happened to the show of late? It has been crap and you can't deny it.
Bet it still wins all the soap awards, though, like it usually does.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:33
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not another thread slating EE. Yeah it is poor just now but I personally will keep watching it.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:33
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Blah blah blah...we've heard it all before.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:35
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And CS and E'dale are entertaining every night
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:41
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She's so annoying when she goes on about the soaps, seems dead excited in a bit of a sad way and always says stuff like she knows the characters and that they're real. Then she'll slip something in thats going to happen with an air of desperation and giddiness.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:45
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Slighty Off topic....what was with her eyeshadow today!
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:51
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Is this thread a wind up

After what I have just been reading/discusing on another thread this one comes up

Can the OP elaborate a bit on this line

It has been crap and you can't deny it

Perhaps give some reasons
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:53
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Originally Posted by paulsalter
Is this thread a wind up

After what I have just been reading/discusing on another thread this one comes up

Can the OP elaborate a bit on this line

It has been crap and you can't deny it

Perhaps give some reasons
No its not a wind up. I thought I'd post what Sharon has just said.

The storylines on EE have been dire for months. Pauline's death was an insult. Joe death was even worse and get me started on Dawn, May and Rob.

If people can't see whats wrong for the show then there is no hope for it.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Sunflower Seed
No its not a wind up. I thought I'd post what Sharon has just said.

The storylines on EE have been dire for months. Pauline's death was an insult. Joe death was even worse and get me started on Dawn, May and Rob.

If people can't see whats wrong for the show then there is no hope for it.
A lot of people can see what is wrong with the soap. What do you want us to do? We are just the viewers not the writers.

Everyone has different opinions on the different storylines but pointless threads on who says what on EE are boring.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:59
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Originally Posted by Mags31
A lot of people can see what is wrong with the soap. What do you want us to do? We are just the viewers not the writers.

Everyone has different opinions on the different storylines but pointless threads on who says what on EE are boring.

So is free speech but everyone is allowed an opinion and how they voice it is their concern.
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Old 16-02-2007, 11:59
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The only way it wins the "best soap" awards is because the kids who watch EE vote online - Corrie's more mature audience dont, and probably have more to do in life than vote every couple of months for yet another awards ceremony.

Back to EastEnders being dull at present - this is correct, and there are simple reasons why:
[list]
Boring/Extended stories - Stories are going to people we hardly know or care about - and when they do, they drag on...and on. Bert for example, Kevin's vanishing act...very repeatitive and dull

Unrealistic Stories - If you loose your sense of reality, you loose faith within the whole show - the Doctor for example, yes this could happen, it started out realistic enough, but now it's going too far & loosing it'ssense of reality, likewise with Phil & Stella - nice girl, but not for Phil - it's un-believeable.

Lack of decent stories for established characters - people like Pat/Ian/Dot/Peggy - are all well established characters who the audience know well, enjoy & can relate to. Recently they have hardly had a decent story of their own...instead hang off (or holding together!) scraps of other dull stories.

Everything Issue based - so basically you wont get bits of "normal" script anymore, like once you'd have Ethel & Dot gossiping about somebody, or Pauline talking about her childhood - ie, normality - EE need to have normal "talk" amongst characters alongside the major boring stories they are currently telling[/list]
SOLUTION: Simple, make the writers watch some classic Julia Smith episodes, just to have a sense of what EastEnders was, what made it so great, where they could be going wrong.

Something needs to be sorted...soon!
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Old 16-02-2007, 12:05
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Originally Posted by Sunflower Seed
So is free speech but everyone is allowed an opinion and how they voice it is their concern.
where did i say it wasnt! your going on the defensive. All im saying is different people prefer different storylines. So what i like someone else might not and what they like i might not.

I didnt say anything about free speech.

Maybe we shoulf trawl back and see how many threads there are on EE is boring, such and such says its crap, ee is dull

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Old 16-02-2007, 12:06
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Good post Bronze Bully. I'm sick of people on here disgrading any bad comment people make about EE.

Its not in fantastic shape and yes changes need to be made fast.
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Old 16-02-2007, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Sunflower Seed
Good post Bronze Bully. I'm sick of people on here disgrading any bad comment people make about EE.
5 days and you've had it with DS already? That's a poor shame.

EE isn't exactly exciting at the moment but it doesn't matter. Fans will still watch it.
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Old 16-02-2007, 12:09
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evicts herself from this thread lol.
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Old 16-02-2007, 12:12
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Originally Posted by Sunflower Seed
Good post Bronze Bully. I'm sick of people on here disgrading any bad comment people make about EE.

Its not in fantastic shape and yes changes need to be made fast.
Free speech works both ways.

I just think it's getting a bit much when you have to make a thread for one comment. There are other EE bashing threads you could have added this too. There is a Tina one running at the moment.
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Old 16-02-2007, 16:41
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I Find Eastenders really good drama it doesent need big explosions or huge clifhangers to keep viewers. It's addictive drama to me and I want more and more.
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Old 16-02-2007, 16:44
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Originally Posted by SharonsNo1fan
And CS and E'dale are entertaining every night
yep pretty much
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Old 16-02-2007, 16:48
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Originally Posted by Sunflower Seed
Sharon Marshall who is normally quite fair in her soap reviews she claims next weeks EastEnders is very dull.

Whats happened to the show of late? It has been crap and you can't deny it.
And there was me thinking there was a thing called opinion..
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Old 16-02-2007, 16:50
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Originally Posted by bronze bully
The only way it wins the "best soap" awards is because the kids who watch EE vote online - Corrie's more mature audience dont, and probably have more to do in life than vote every couple of months for yet another awards ceremony.

Back to EastEnders being dull at present - this is correct, and there are simple reasons why:
[list]
Boring/Extended stories - Stories are going to people we hardly know or care about - and when they do, they drag on...and on. Bert for example, Kevin's vanishing act...very repeatitive and dull

Unrealistic Stories - If you loose your sense of reality, you loose faith within the whole show - the Doctor for example, yes this could happen, it started out realistic enough, but now it's going too far & loosing it'ssense of reality, likewise with Phil & Stella - nice girl, but not for Phil - it's un-believeable.

Lack of decent stories for established characters - people like Pat/Ian/Dot/Peggy - are all well established characters who the audience know well, enjoy & can relate to. Recently they have hardly had a decent story of their own...instead hang off (or holding together!) scraps of other dull stories.

Everything Issue based - so basically you wont get bits of "normal" script anymore, like once you'd have Ethel & Dot gossiping about somebody, or Pauline talking about her childhood - ie, normality - EE need to have normal "talk" amongst characters alongside the major boring stories they are currently telling[/list]
SOLUTION: Simple, make the writers watch some classic Julia Smith episodes, just to have a sense of what EastEnders was, what made it so great, where they could be going wrong.

Something needs to be sorted...soon!
And what's the excuse when Corrie won Best Soap and wins other awards? If the "kids" were voting for Eastenders all the time (It also has adult fans and it's been proven most viewers are OAP), then surely Eastenders would win every award open to the public. But they don't.
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Old 16-02-2007, 17:38
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Originally Posted by bronze bully
The only way it wins the "best soap" awards is because the kids who watch EE vote online - Corrie's more mature audience dont, and probably have more to do in life than vote every couple of months for yet another awards ceremony.

Back to EastEnders being dull at present - this is correct, and there are simple reasons why:
[list]
Boring/Extended stories - Stories are going to people we hardly know or care about - and when they do, they drag on...and on. Bert for example, Kevin's vanishing act...very repeatitive and dull

Unrealistic Stories - If you loose your sense of reality, you loose faith within the whole show - the Doctor for example, yes this could happen, it started out realistic enough, but now it's going too far & loosing it'ssense of reality, likewise with Phil & Stella - nice girl, but not for Phil - it's un-believeable.

Lack of decent stories for established characters - people like Pat/Ian/Dot/Peggy - are all well established characters who the audience know well, enjoy & can relate to. Recently they have hardly had a decent story of their own...instead hang off (or holding together!) scraps of other dull stories.

Everything Issue based - so basically you wont get bits of "normal" script anymore, like once you'd have Ethel & Dot gossiping about somebody, or Pauline talking about her childhood - ie, normality - EE need to have normal "talk" amongst characters alongside the major boring stories they are currently telling[/list]
SOLUTION: Simple, make the writers watch some classic Julia Smith episodes, just to have a sense of what EastEnders was, what made it so great, where they could be going wrong.

Something needs to be sorted...soon!
Your last point, about everything being issue based, or every scene serving plot rather than character, is very valid.

I'd like to see scenes with Stacey and Sean discussing their childhood together, Pat and Kevin talking about their families etc. Scenes which illuminate character. Thats why the Stacey/Jean Pat/Frank week was so superb, it was absolutely focused on the characters.
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Old 16-02-2007, 17:46
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she could talk about what in store for the Neighbours characters, rather than rabbling on and on about the ITV soaps.

As many people do watch Neighbours,
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Old 16-02-2007, 17:48
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Originally Posted by Relugus
Your last point, about everything being issue based, or every scene serving plot rather than character, is very valid.

I'd like to see scenes with Stacey and Sean discussing their childhood together, Pat and Kevin talking about their families etc. Scenes which illuminate character. Thats why the Stacey/Jean Pat/Frank week was so superb, it was absolutely focused on the characters.
This is a really good point. They arn't rounding out the characters very well at the moment.

At least they arn't resorting to bombs tho lol.
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Old 16-02-2007, 17:59
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This is a really good point. They arn't rounding out the characters very well at the moment.

At least they arn't resorting to bombs tho lol.
Actually I wouldn't mind something like that in EE. A big hostage incident or something would help get things moving if they did it right.
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