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Old 21-02-2007, 14:43
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Hi,
I have a teenager thats a Tw*t basically it doesnt matter how much i tell her to ask before she uses the phone its goes in one ear and out the other.
My phone bill landed on my door today ......................OMG !!
-Its half my wages!
Anyway i have two betacom BD1001 cordless phones there is no way i can put a pin in to stop her , ive checked instruction manual.
Ive looked at payphones but they are big , ugly and really expensive.
I can get mobiles blocked on my landline but if she needs to call me at work she wont be able to plus she is hammering Landlines.
I need advice on some how ( apart from hiding the handset) on some form of locks to apply to stop her .
Any advice
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Old 21-02-2007, 17:42
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I've got one of those as well - a teenager with attitude.

Try:

http://www.orchid-electronics.com/Diallers/v4.htm

It's worked for me. Just hide it in the wiring of your phone somewhere in the house where it's not easily spotted. My teenager thinks the phone company has set all the call barring - lovely jubbly.
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Old 21-02-2007, 21:20
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Originally Posted by suec
Hi,
I have a teenager thats a Tw*t basically it doesnt matter how much i tell her to ask before she uses the phone its goes in one ear and out the other.
My phone bill landed on my door today ......................OMG !!
-Its half my wages!
Anyway i have two betacom BD1001 cordless phones there is no way i can put a pin in to stop her , ive checked instruction manual.
Ive looked at payphones but they are big , ugly and really expensive.
I can get mobiles blocked on my landline but if she needs to call me at work she wont be able to plus she is hammering Landlines.
I need advice on some how ( apart from hiding the handset) on some form of locks to apply to stop her .
Any advice
I'm a great fan of Orchid diallers but you may find a Commtel Phone Guard far more useful for your problem (ideal if you only have one telephone socket so there's nowhere to plug in another - £4 or less from Tesco - phone).

If you have a BT landline, open a 18185 account online and program the Phone Guard to allow 1818501 and 1818502 only (i.e. not 18185 on its own because she could then dial mobiles too). Each call would only cost 5p then.

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Old 21-02-2007, 21:24
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should buy a pay phone so she has to pay to use the phone!!
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Old 21-02-2007, 21:27
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When I was in Spain and staying with a landlady,she locked the phone with a padlock.
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Old 21-02-2007, 21:30
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Hi ive just bid on commtel phone guard !

Ive been pricing up payphone but at around £200 on top of the lovely bill she has brought me this month - too much.
Im going to try the commtel see what its like i think you can input what numbers you can phone from it so i will only input necessary one sfor emergencies .

I have two sockets though so i will have to buy two.But the little buggar is clever ! Is there anyway she can bypass it once fitted?

Did you say they can be bought at tesco?
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Old 21-02-2007, 21:34
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Quote #5 may be the most useful lol
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Old 21-02-2007, 21:39
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had a thought - could you get a telephone deal where evening and weekend calls are free? there's loads of places doing it. Your girl will surely be happy to wait til 6pm, 'cos then she can chat away for up to an hour free of charge. might be worth a look round. no more money worries for you
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Old 21-02-2007, 21:54
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Originally Posted by suec
Hi ive just bid on commtel phone guard !

Im going to try the commtel see what its like i think you can input what numbers you can phone from it so i will only input necessary one sfor emergencies .

I have two sockets though so i will have to buy two.But the little buggar is clever ! Is there anyway she can bypass it once fitted?

Did you say they can be bought at tesco?
No, you can't buy the Phone Guards from Tesco (AFAIAA). I meant she could buy a cheap phone to plug into an 'unguarded' socket.

If you have 2 working phone sockets, you'll need to fit a Phone Guard to each socket - otherwise that clever little mini-you will go to Tesco and buy a cheap phone!

The Phone Guards are screwed to the wall over the phone socket and can only be removed with the key (the locked part hides the screws). Hide ALL the keys REALLY WELL.

You should be able to get two for a total of £10 or so (I got lucky and got my one for £2.99 - delivered).

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Old 21-02-2007, 22:25
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Originally Posted by trixiehobbit
had a thought - could you get a telephone deal where evening and weekend calls are free? there's loads of places doing it. Your girl will surely be happy to wait til 6pm, 'cos then she can chat away for up to an hour free of charge. might be worth a look round. no more money worries for you
hi i am on one but shes phoning land & mobiles from my landline.
I can get mobiles blocked blocked but if she sneed to phone me at work she can only phone my mobile - so the Commtel is the best option
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Old 27-02-2007, 19:51
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Have you just thought about telling her not to use the phone!! If my child used it when i had told her not to her feet would not touch the ground!!
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Old 28-02-2007, 20:20
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Originally Posted by simonmoore
Have you just thought about telling her not to use the phone!! If my child used it when i had told her not to her feet would not touch the ground!!
You'd really hit her that hard?
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Old 28-02-2007, 20:23
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sorry i dont believe in belting my kids !
Kids are kids and yes she should do what she told but be realistic how many 15 1/2 years olds do ???
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Old 28-02-2007, 20:58
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Originally Posted by suec
sorry i dont believe in belting my kids !
Kids are kids and yes she should do what she told but be realistic how many 15 1/2 years olds do ???
Exactly (been there, done that).

So you have to (try to) be smarter!
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Old 28-02-2007, 23:30
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Sorry SUEC I was not having A go at you. I had just got back from my Friends house and they are having problems with there teenager. I had to hold my breath there as quite honestly there child takes the p*ss! I want to slap the both of them (The parents) LOL. Dont worry I have never hit my child LOL. I suppose i have alot of trouble to come in later life with my Lad. With my friends they seem to be hard at work like yourself while there kid lives like a king! I just took it out on you luv LOL.
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Old 28-02-2007, 23:40
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simonmoore.
Its ok ! Teenagers are Tw*ts and it doesnt matter how much you tell them NOT to do something - they do it.
Ive just bought a Commtel phone guard so i will put the emergency numbers in it and hide the keys ! LOL .
Bet my phone bill will be low.
Its strange though - now i know why my parents moaned at me for using the phone , though i wouldnt have dared be on the phone to mobiles for over an hour a time !
Ive just paid the phone bill and Jeez it was big! And ive still caught the little buggar on the phone again! Roll on fitting the phone guard!
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:07
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Originally Posted by Heinz
I'm a great fan of Orchid diallers but you may find a Commtel Phone Guard far more useful for your problem (ideal if you only have one telephone socket so there's nowhere to plug in another - £4 or less from Tesco - phone).
You can get similar ones to the commtel ones at a 99p store/poundland.
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Old 01-03-2007, 17:32
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Originally Posted by Heinz
I'm a great fan of Orchid diallers but you may find a Commtel Phone Guard far more useful for your problem (ideal if you only have one telephone socket so there's nowhere to plug in another - £4 or less from Tesco - phone).

If you have a BT landline, open a 18185 account online and program the Phone Guard to allow 1818501 and 1818502 only (i.e. not 18185 on its own because she could then dial mobiles too). Each call would only cost 5p then.
Can you bar certain calls with these, like barring all mobile calls?

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Old 01-03-2007, 17:44
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Originally Posted by choon
Can you bar certain calls with these, like barring all mobile calls?

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The opposite, in fact. The device bars all calls unless you program it to allow certain codes or numbers.

e.g. You could program it to allow any call starting with:

2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
01
02
080
050

If you allowed only those codes/numbers, only local calls, emergency calls, calls to other UK 01 and 02 STD code areas and freephone calls would be possible (i.e. no calls to numbers starting 1 [the Operator, 118 etc.], 05, 07, 084, 087, 09 or 00 could be dialled).

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Old 01-03-2007, 18:56
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Originally Posted by Heinz
The opposite, in fact. The device bars all calls unless you program it to allow certain codes or numbers.

e.g. You could program it to allow any call starting with:

2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
01
02
080
050

If you allowed only those codes/numbers, only local calls, emergency calls, calls to other UK 01 and 02 STD code areas and freephone calls would be possible (i.e. no calls to numbers starting 1 [the Operator, 118 etc.], 05, 07, 084, 087, 09 or 00 could be dialled).
So you just type in the numbers you want to call so if you didn't put 07 in to it, it will not call mobiles?

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Old 01-03-2007, 19:40
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Originally Posted by choon
So you just type in the numbers you want to call so if you didn't put 07 in to it, it will not call mobiles?
Yes.

You can dial what you like (you still dial the full number, including the code if applicable) but the Phone Guard only allows through what it has been programmed to allow through.

Hence, if '07' has not been programmed as 'allowed' an alarm goes off, a red light comes on, the call fails and the person attempting to make the call hears dial tone.

Pretty neat piece of kit for under a fiver IMHO.

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Old 01-03-2007, 20:09
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ok thanks very much, been looking for a way to bar mobiles for ages (bulldog don't do mobile call barring) think I might buy one on ebay now. But how do you program it does it have a little screen or something on it? also is this the right one? I assume there is only one. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...0801&rd=1&rd=1

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Old 01-03-2007, 20:14
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Originally Posted by choon
But how do you program it does it have a little screen or something on it?
What, for less than £5?

No, the instructions tell you how to use a DTMF phone to program it (from the other side of the world if you want).

There's always over a dozen available on ebay.

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Old 01-03-2007, 20:22
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sorry for all the questions, but do they work with broadband? and what is a DTMF phone? not sure if I have one.

Thanks very much for being so helpful.
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Old 01-03-2007, 20:32
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Originally Posted by choon
sorry for all the questions, but do they work with broadband? and what is a DTMF phone?
The Phone Guard screws over the standard BT telephone wall socket and the ADSL filter then plugs back in as normal - phone and broadband connections plug into the two sockets in the filter as normal.

DTMF (Dual Tone Multi-Frequency) is the type of dialling we use these days - better known as tone dialing. Any cellphone and most push button phones use that.

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