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Old 23-02-2007, 10:57
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Good news for HC , Cable has its only advantage removed. Also the prospect of an alternative buyer of Sky one exclusive programs might emerge.
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Old 23-02-2007, 11:10
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How is this good news? Seems a bit petty, all it means is that an alternative to HC is now not such a good option. I don't see that this benefits HC customers in any way; it just means we now don't have such good alternatives.

Surely HC getting Skys channels would be good from a customer point of view, but I can't see how you can think VM customers getting a worse deal today than they did yesterday in anyway benefits us.
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Old 23-02-2007, 11:28
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With Sky reportedly doubling the price of the channel, it just means that there is now no hope in hell of any other carrier securing it in the future (including HC).
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Old 23-02-2007, 18:30
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Originally Posted by DrinkingBuddy
How is this good news? Seems a bit petty, all it means is that an alternative to HC is now not such a good option. I don't see that this benefits HC customers in any way; it just means we now don't have such good alternatives.

Surely HC getting Skys channels would be good from a customer point of view, but I can't see how you can think VM customers getting a worse deal today than they did yesterday in anyway benefits us.

Its good because there is more chance of VM putting their channels on HC than Sky ever would. Sky simply doesn't want any other company to have access to Sky One (they stated that this was their policy some time ago - make Sky One teh reason why customers buy their service). HC will NEVER get Sky One so if the existing/New programs are poached by VM they may end up on HC.

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Old 23-02-2007, 18:32
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Originally Posted by Peter We
Good news for HC , Cable has its only advantage removed. Also the prospect of an alternative buyer of Sky one exclusive programs might emerge.
More than likely they will be back maybe after a couple of weeks or months sky wont want to risk loseing revenue.
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Old 25-02-2007, 13:13
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Sky will need to get an additional 200K subscribers to switch to cover the loss. Thats quite possible to achieve, they may think its worthwhile.
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Old 28-02-2007, 08:06
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From Sky's latest release

"If Virgin Media believes that Sky's basic channels are not worth around 3 pence per day to its customers, Sky has made an alternative proposal that would ensure that Virgin's customers would nevertheless continue to enjoy access to the shows they love.

"At no cost to Virgin Media, Sky would retail its basic channels directly to cable customers on the Virgin Media network. This initiative would operate in a similar way to the means by which third-party broadcasters enjoy open access to Sky's digital satellite platform.

"Sky believes that a decision by Virgin Media to provide access to its platform would indicate a willingness to compete and to provide choice to customers. At present, the only means for third-party broadcasters to reach customers on Virgin Media's network is through a wholesale channel supply agreement with Virgin Media.
This sounds a bit like Sky by Wire - maybe Sky would like to explain why they don't offer Sky One to HC/Tiscali users then...
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Old 28-02-2007, 08:15
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HC do not have sky you have to subcribe to sky themselves and pay sky
not HC
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Old 28-02-2007, 08:19
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Originally Posted by JOEL01
HC do not have sky you have to subcribe to sky themselves and pay sky
not HC
Precisely - and I think that's what Sky are now suggesting for Virgin if they fail to reach a wholesale agreement.

So, again, if Sky are offering this service direct why do they not offer Sky One, Sky Three, Sky Sports News and the interactive services (and charging more than Satellite prices for the channels they do offer)?

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Old 28-02-2007, 13:39
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I have to agree - I've never understood why Sky by wire has never included Sky One, Two, Three, News and Sports News because it would tempt me into using it more.
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Old 28-02-2007, 15:27
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I think sky are taking the piss they are over priced and are trying to domonate the market and should be brought to heal and i hope VM stick to there guns and screw them
VM should put there own sat up in direct compation to sky then we would all be better off
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