Conspiracy or coincidence

fiesata · 27-02-2007, 19:55

I have noticed in recent years that electronic items I have purchased in some cases seem to follow the same pattern.All of the products have been from well known manufacturers obviously I can't and won't name them.

It goes like this I had a TV which I bought from new it lasted 3 years before it failed completely (beyond economic repair)then the same thing happened to a VCR perfect one day - dead the next,the a games console, and last might my printer came up with an error message that ''that some of the parts have now come to the end of their life and the printer wants servicing'' this was a surprise in that the printer had been little used and had been working fine minutes before.

After googling this I found a utility that resets the printer to new state and guess what it works perfectly again

All the above were from the upper end of the market not the cheap and cheerful, having said that I have not seen this with cheaper brands - is there something going on like a time chip which shuts the product down - or just a coincidence?

spooky

bobcar · 27-02-2007, 21:07

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Originally Posted by fiesata

I have noticed in recent years that electronic items I have purchased in some cases seem to follow the same pattern.All of the products have been from well known manufacturers obviously I can't and won't name them.

It goes like this I had a TV which I bought from new it lasted 3 years before it failed completely (beyond economic repair)then the same thing happened to a VCR perfect one day - dead the next,the a games console, and last might my printer came up with an error message that ''that some of the parts have now come to the end of their life and the printer wants servicing'' this was a surprise in that the printer had been little used and had been working fine minutes before.

After googling this I found a utility that resets the printer to new state and guess what it works perfectly again

All the above were from the upper end of the market not the cheap and cheerful, having said that I have not seen this with cheaper brands - is there something going on like a time chip which shuts the product down - or just a coincidence?

spooky

Good grief!

Why won't you name them?

fiesata · 27-02-2007, 21:53

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Good grief! Why won't you name them?

well if no one can see any reason why not I've no problem but as I have no actual proof I didn't think it a good idea

Nigel Goodwin · 27-02-2007, 21:58

Don't see why?, there's no such conspiracy - just that people want cheaper and cheaper prices, so they get cheaper and cheaper components used!. Generally the cheaper sets last even shorter times!.

fiesata · 27-02-2007, 22:29

Ok then as a devotee of Sony products in the past I purchases a new Sony TV which lasted only three years as a second set wheres my parents Bush TV purchased at the same time for half the price lasted 7 years as their main TV.

My Sony VCR also only lasted much less than I would have expected just over two years whereas my Aiwa VCR (which cost a third less) I purchased prior to that is still going strong three years later.

Now my printer is an Epson a brand I've always liked yet the use I have had from my current model does not justify the error message imho.Another thing with these printers is to buy a chip resetter as they report the ink cartridge is empty when it is not

Everything I've urchased by Panasonic, Sanyo and Philips I've found o be long lasting and good value

niall campbell · 28-02-2007, 00:50

so what googling thing did you use?

aiwa is made by sony

Cosmo040180 · 28-02-2007, 02:03

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Originally Posted by fiesata

Now my printer is an Epson a brand

I can comment on this as i am a epson qualified tech this will need servicing as there is a foam pad that will be getting saturated with ink at the base of the printer

you are correct there is a chip inside the printer with a ink counter that will stop the printer working to prevent damage to the printer and also the furniture just like the red light that will light up in most cars (and the reason a car doesnt stop working as it could be in the middle of a motorway or somewhere as equally dangerout and with your printer if ink started dripping thru the base if youe printer im sure you would sue epson wich could be why they stop it working)

Nigel Goodwin · 28-02-2007, 06:36

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Originally Posted by niall campbell

so what googling thing did you use?

aiwa is made by sony

Yes, Aiwa is 100% Sony now, and was mostly owned by Sony for years before.

Sony don't make their own VCR's, they buy them in from Samsung!.

27-02-2007, 19:55	#1
fiesata Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 468	Conspiracy or coincidence I have noticed in recent years that electronic items I have purchased in some cases seem to follow the same pattern.All of the products have been from well known manufacturers obviously I can't and won't name them. It goes like this I had a TV which I bought from new it lasted 3 years before it failed completely (beyond economic repair)then the same thing happened to a VCR perfect one day - dead the next,the a games console, and last might my printer came up with an error message that ''that some of the parts have now come to the end of their life and the printer wants servicing'' this was a surprise in that the printer had been little used and had been working fine minutes before. After googling this I found a utility that resets the printer to new state and guess what it works perfectly again All the above were from the upper end of the market not the cheap and cheerful, having said that I have not seen this with cheaper brands - is there something going on like a time chip which shuts the product down - or just a coincidence? spooky Last edited by fiesata : 27-02-2007 at 19:56.

27-02-2007, 21:07	#2
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by fiesata I have noticed in recent years that electronic items I have purchased in some cases seem to follow the same pattern.All of the products have been from well known manufacturers obviously I can't and won't name them. It goes like this I had a TV which I bought from new it lasted 3 years before it failed completely (beyond economic repair)then the same thing happened to a VCR perfect one day - dead the next,the a games console, and last might my printer came up with an error message that ''that some of the parts have now come to the end of their life and the printer wants servicing'' this was a surprise in that the printer had been little used and had been working fine minutes before. After googling this I found a utility that resets the printer to new state and guess what it works perfectly again All the above were from the upper end of the market not the cheap and cheerful, having said that I have not seen this with cheaper brands - is there something going on like a time chip which shuts the product down - or just a coincidence? spooky Good grief! Why won't you name them?

27-02-2007, 21:53	#3
fiesata Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 468	Quote: Good grief! Why won't you name them? well if no one can see any reason why not I've no problem but as I have no actual proof I didn't think it a good idea

27-02-2007, 21:58	#4
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Don't see why?, there's no such conspiracy - just that people want cheaper and cheaper prices, so they get cheaper and cheaper components used!. Generally the cheaper sets last even shorter times!.

27-02-2007, 22:29	#5
fiesata Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 468	Ok then as a devotee of Sony products in the past I purchases a new Sony TV which lasted only three years as a second set wheres my parents Bush TV purchased at the same time for half the price lasted 7 years as their main TV. My Sony VCR also only lasted much less than I would have expected just over two years whereas my Aiwa VCR (which cost a third less) I purchased prior to that is still going strong three years later. Now my printer is an Epson a brand I've always liked yet the use I have had from my current model does not justify the error message imho.Another thing with these printers is to buy a chip resetter as they report the ink cartridge is empty when it is not Everything I've urchased by Panasonic, Sanyo and Philips I've found o be long lasting and good value

28-02-2007, 00:50	#6
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	so what googling thing did you use? aiwa is made by sony

28-02-2007, 02:03	#7
Cosmo040180 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Runcorn Posts: 51	Quote: Originally Posted by fiesata Now my printer is an Epson a brand I can comment on this as i am a epson qualified tech this will need servicing as there is a foam pad that will be getting saturated with ink at the base of the printer you are correct there is a chip inside the printer with a ink counter that will stop the printer working to prevent damage to the printer and also the furniture just like the red light that will light up in most cars (and the reason a car doesnt stop working as it could be in the middle of a motorway or somewhere as equally dangerout and with your printer if ink started dripping thru the base if youe printer im sure you would sue epson wich could be why they stop it working)

28-02-2007, 06:36	#8
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell so what googling thing did you use? aiwa is made by sony Yes, Aiwa is 100% Sony now, and was mostly owned by Sony for years before. Sony don't make their own VCR's, they buy them in from Samsung!.

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