Well I've managed to run the bath over following this thread and getting more and more annoyed as I read on. bob 2002 has basically said exactly what I was thinking only has probably been a little more 'articulate' than I would have been. I think Kwami was a genuinely nice guy but he was bit up himself and so he came across as boring. I don't actually think he is...or maybe he is...I don't know because I'm not married to him but at the end of the day I am offended at zazza's comments. I haven't been a member long but I have never heard a racist comment on here until I read zazza's which is soooooo racist it is unbelievable.

I'm not sure where this anger is coming from zazza. It's my understanding that you are a white person married to a black gentleman. This isn't a good excuse to start firing of accusation at other people at the slightest cause. My sister happens to be black as well (adopted) but for the life of me I can't seem to get into the mind set of accusing everyone of being racist because someone lost a TV show.

There are ways of combating racism - This isn't one of them....If anything it's self defeating.
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Maybe..?

maybe not..

I love the way i am always accused of being a racist tho.. it's always the same reaction when you point things like this out...

Like the fact that the black contestant is

if quiet -> boring
if enthusiastic -> loud and obnoxious
if confident -> arrogant tosser, up themselves
if religious -> a freak that harps on about god
if talented -> a show off
if self-effacing -> devious
if talkative -> spouting garbage


etc etc

it's SO predictable..

if anyone points this out then they are acused of being racist..

It follows the same pattern every time..

If you don't believe me, just watch.. and keep your eyes open!

but you just described Will

well apart from the talent bit

Yes...quite....Zazza, what you have just described is what happens to every contestant. It happens to every favorite I've had. The slightest little thing is picked up on and their characters are ripped to shreds.........That's all of them. It happened to Katie, poor little Rhona (excessively in Rhona's case) and all my other favorites.....You can't let it drag you down into a cycle of hatred and recrimination.......unless you're talking about Jade, but that's a exceptional case.

Peace

To all the correspondants involved in this thread,
STOP relpying to zazza, this individual is quite simply a FLAMER!
people like this sit at their computers all day (due to a lack of a life) and whine and bitch about anything that anyone says.
The best way to deal with these people is to IGNORE them if you reply to them or get into a debate with them you are giving them the attention they crave.
And Zazza, please feel free to theorize with your pseudo intellectualism, you may also berate and insult me if you wish, I haven't got the time to waste on narrowminded bigots like you.

It seems to me that you favoured Kwame because he was black, rather than because he was the best singer. It's hardly surprising that some people find that slightly racist.

read these forums often but rarely write.....

Just had to say that nobody on TV has ever done my head in more than Kwarme....ever, ever, ever. Total humour malfunction.

I got a black friend of mine to read Zazza's thread and she laughed her ass off. She hates Kwame yet loves Ruby, so she's not sure where she stands right now, can anyone help her???

I cant understand how anyone can bring racism into this.

I thought Kwarme had by the far the best voice and wanted him to win, but his attitude started to irritate me. Thats nothing to do with him being black, its to do with his personality.
I also find Will annoying with his 'oh so humble' attitude. What does that make me, Northernist?

Ruby cant sing to save her live and she knows it but its for Comic Relief so its only fitting a comic wins imo.

The whole point of the exercise is to raise money for charity so does it really matter who wins and loses if loads of people are helped by this show?

I'm not sure that sure that liking someone for a physiological trait is actually racist. Disliking someone for the same reason would be..........We could argue that stating a preference for brunettes is racist if that was the case.

sorry about my posts last last. i know they maybe went too far, but i do stand by the comments made, and as people agree with me, at least I know its not me who finds zazza's comments unacceptable.


just like everyone in the academy!

This CFA has nothing to do with skin colour.
Nothing in this forum has made me think that there's racism in here. And unless you can actually prove that there is - don't come in here and insult people.
And don't give me the 'a black guy can never win reality tv because this society is racist'.
I'm sick and tired of this sort of conversation.
If a black man/woman wins: it proves that a 'black' person is more talented then a 'white' person.
If a black man/woman loses: it proves that the society is racist.
Racism can go in more then 1 direction: white on black, black on white.

I agree: if Lenny Henry was in CFA, he would be in the final with Ruby.

If Lenny Henry had been in CFA nobody else would have stood a chance

Koff.. all I have done is wondered why, when he is the best singer by about a million miles, he got thrown out..

strange..

Just go check the posts about Lemar.. the tone is always the same..

Yes, the tone is the same. True...
But...
It was never about skin colour...go check it yourself.
And put your money where your mouth is...prove to us that the previous comments were racist.

Some people did not find Lemar entertaining.
Some people did not find Kwame entertaining.
It takes more than a good voice.
There are enough big entertainers that haven't got fantastic voices. There are enough people with good voices that can't make it because they lack something (and no it's not a white skin).

No, of course not, it's always something else..

No that is not all you have done, what you have done is assumed that peoples dislike for an individual is down to that individuals skin colour. I'll admit that unconcious racism does exist in todays society but there is no evidence from any poster on here that racism was behind their disliking for Kwame.

It's called COMIC relief FAME academy, not SERIOUS relief SINGING Academy, in the latter Kwamae would have won, in the former he came a good third, get over it!!!

In the former he would have won???

Get real..

no, the latter, you really do read things differently to other people don't you?

I don't think he could win either of them, he's not a good enough singer. Don't be fooled by Carrie's sucking up this week, the guy is a decent cabaret singer at best.

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Because it's Comic Relief , and not about being the best singer, or getting a record contract. It's about having a laugh... Ruby makes me laugh - I vote for her. If I want to listen to a good singer, I'll listen to Otis Redding, who Kwame got no where near to last night btw.


Maybe... But if the opposite of racism is to treat everyone as equal (until they give you cause not to), then that doesn't seem to be what's happening here. In this situation, to be for someone because they are black, means you're against whoever isn't.

It's not quite setting people on fire, but it's not good, and it doesn't help anybody.