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Old 16-03-2003, 11:31
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after religiously following the singles charts ever since I was 10 years old probably(40 years now), ive finally lost all interest in them. My interest was revived breifly by the progress of the FA students, who I liked a lot, but now, for the first time in ages, there is nothing in the top 10 that is of interest to me.

Maybe its time I retired gracefully with my Beatle and Led Zeppelin albums etc etc, and started muttering about 'the state of music today'.

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Old 16-03-2003, 11:50
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I followed the charts for about 10 years before I lost interest in them. The charts move at a faster and faster pace. As the life spans of the groups who inhabit them get shorter and shorter. Hip Today, You'll Be Gone Tomorow.
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Old 16-03-2003, 13:03
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I gave up with the charts in secondry school! (being 21 now!)

My tastes changed when my mate got me listaning to NOFX, a quality non-mainstream band. Now I dont need the radio or the crappy chart. Most of my CDs are non main stream (Bar the usual - Blink 182, Green Day, Sum 41 etc) but the rest are from people who still play basement shows in dives! (Thanx 4 it NOFX, No Use For A Name, Sick Of It All, AFI, Anti Flag, Ataris and all you other great bands!)

They hang out with the fans at gigs, the sell there CDs for £5 - £10! There merch costs the price it took to make it, They tour as oftern as possable. They enjoy it and get minimal pay while doing it!!!!! Thats what true music is. Not recording a song 20 times, being told how to sing it untill it is perfect, being told what to wear at photo shoots, going on as manny kiddie tv shows as possable to plug single sales so crappy companies like Sony, and all the other main stream companies and getting all moody caus thay are not getting paid enough!!!!

The record companies know that people are not intrested any more so they are copying the non-mainstream artists and putting shite artists into the chart like Busted and Avrial Lavign!!!
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Old 16-03-2003, 16:49
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I too lost interest in the charts ages ago. I got tired of listening to the same bland mass produced trash over & over. The "new hottest" artists sound just the like the ones out the previous week and are now has beens already.
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Old 16-03-2003, 23:03
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I haven't listened to the charts for ages, it has not been something I listened to regularly for a while, I was getting fed up when bands I had never heard of were going straight into number one. There is so much airplay and hype about a record before it even gets released that once it has entered the charts it usually goes down again. In the 80s when I grew up, bands enetered at something like number 36 and climbed up to the number one spot over a few weeks (if they were lucky), you never knew if they would go up or down and a number of bands could have got to number one, it wasn't the exclusive right of whichever over hyped over played band happened to have released a single that week.
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Old 16-03-2003, 23:36
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Originally posted by ElRawns
My tastes changed when my mate got me listaning to NOFX
I think you'll find your tastes changed when a certain mate got you into the Manics.. and it went from there

*cough* Will Smith, B-Witched, Hanson, Spice Girls *cough*
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Old 17-03-2003, 12:29
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Originally posted by greg
I think you'll find your tastes changed when a certain mate got you into the Manics.. and it went from there

*cough* Will Smith, B-Witched, Hanson, Spice Girls *cough*
DAMMM YOU!!!!!!!! WHY MUST YOU TAUNT ME?!!!!!! (BTW: cheers for getting me out of that bad scene!)

He is right though... what possessed me to listan to site like that i will never know. That reminds me, do u still have my hanson CD as a tea mat?
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Old 17-03-2003, 14:50
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Originally posted by ElRawns
DAMMM YOU!!!!!!!! WHY MUST YOU TAUNT ME?!!!!!!
Because you must remember past mistakes in order to avoid making future ones.

Originally posted by ElRawns
[b]That reminds me, do u still have my hanson CD as a tea mat? B]
Yep, its got pride of place near my mouse mat.. a key spot for any seasoned tea drinker/computer user.
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Old 17-03-2003, 15:10
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There hasn't been any good music since the britpop days of 1995-1996 all we have now is coldplay.
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Old 17-03-2003, 15:35
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Originally posted by TOML
There hasn't been any good music since the britpop days of 1995-1996 all we have now is coldplay.
Britpop was shite, there was another example of here today gone tomorrow bands (Echobelly, Sleeper, Menswear etc) with the most over- rated band of the 90's Oasis, fronting the so-called movement it was never gonna last! and Coldplay are not the only good band out there why not try listening outside of this little island in western Europe there's a whole world out there!
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Old 17-03-2003, 15:58
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These days I find that about 80 percent of CDs I buy are from the 60s and 70s. There's so much great stuff being reissued from these decades and I find that as i'm getting older I appreciate it more and bands I wouldn't have been interested in ten years ago are now nestling happily in my collection.

I can't remember the last time I even looked at the charts. To me they don't exist. I would much rather follow my own instincts when it comes to music. I spend a lot of time looking into the history of bands and working out if they might interest me. I've taken many chances but in the long run i've ended up with a varied and interesting collection and there's very few albums that I regret buying. I spend a vast proportion of my hard-earned on music so it's important for me to get as much out of it as possible. The charts don't even figure in it.
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Old 17-03-2003, 17:14
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[quote]Originally posted by greg
[b]Because you must remember past mistakes in order to avoid making future ones.[b]

Good point! You have the El Rawns 100% gurante that past mistakes will not be made again!!!
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Old 18-03-2003, 02:55
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I gave up on the charts since the late 80's/early 90's. Nowadays most of the music that is in the charts are a load of shite, but only cause i don't like it maybe someone else does.
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Old 18-03-2003, 11:41
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[quote]Originally posted by couleddie
[b]These days I find that about 80 percent of CDs I buy are from the 60s and 70s. There's so much great stuff being reissued from these decades and I find that as i'm getting older I appreciate it more and bands I wouldn't have been interested in ten years ago are now nestling happily in my collection.

As i am getting older i start enjoying older stuff as today's music is all about lame hip-hop acts.
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Old 18-03-2003, 11:46
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[ why not try listening outside of this little island in western Europe there's a whole world out there! [/b][/quote]


I do like american bands but not the new ones only the older stuff like rem, bon jovi and guns and roses.
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Old 18-03-2003, 11:52
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I think the problem in this country is that there isn't a medium where you can hear new music that isn't pop, dance or rap. Other genres of music don't filter through and if you don't get a chance to hear it then you're unlikely to buy it. I have a keen interest in music so I tend to spend a lot of time looking into the markets but I appreciate that most people just want to hear good music they like and go out and buy it without having to think too much about it. Sadly, these days you have to look long and hard.
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Old 18-03-2003, 14:40
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i'm 41 now and i never thought i would here myself say it but american music is the thing for me now.....apart from the brilliant coldplay .....
linkin park, sum 41e.t.c have an energy that seems to have been lost by english musicians.
the charts are ruled by bands that mostly sound the same, sing or rehash songs we've all heard before.
funny thing though when my daughter who is 9 hears a song she likes, she always asks me if it's been 'nicked' from someone else!!!
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Old 18-03-2003, 14:55
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The problem with a lot of these American bands like Linkin Park and Sum 41 is that most of the time they sound like an overamped mass of tuneless guitar chords and screaming vocals which equates to an unstructured racket. Some of Sum 41s stuff is catchy but on the same hand it's pretty much forgettable. These kinds of bands seem to keep their credibility because they play instruments but I can't help feeling that a lot of them are just pop posers who have learned a few chords. Whatever happened to melody?
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Old 18-03-2003, 14:55
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Greg and ElRawns: One day you'll wake up, remember the music you loved when you were young and wish you hadn't thrown out all your CDs.

I started with Madness and Adam and The Ants. I moved onto Bon Jovi and Run DMC. Then I got into the whole ragga/dance scene of the early 90s. Then I started listening to Green Day, Offspring and Bad Religion. Then I got into Blur, Oasis and Paul Weller.

But it was only when all those bands had stepped out of the public limelight that I realised that no matter how 'uncool' the music i loved seemed to me now, it was my music, the soundtrack to my life.

So laugh at how you could ever have listened to 'shite' like Hanson and the Spice Girls now - because i guarantee you in ten years time you'll wish you had a copy of "Where's The Love" to throw on your CD player and reminisce with.

Image is nothing. Music is everything. Don't judge an artist or a song by how 'cool' it is, or how 'worthy' it is of your respect. Judge them because of how they make you feel, and the memories that they give you.

That's what makes me what i consider to be a real music fan rather than just a bandwagon jumper - and that's why I can put NOFX and Operation Ivy on the same plane as Girls Aloud and Steps. Because they have all made songs that I have enjoyed, and I thank them for that.

Ninz 39 - i agree with you wholeheartedly about the current state of music - I too am drawn to US nu-metal and hip-hop because they have that same raw energy that ran through British rock music in the 80s and 90s.
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Old 18-03-2003, 14:59
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Originally posted by couleddie
The problem with a lot of these American bands like Linkin Park and Sum 41 is that most of the time they sound like an overamped mass of tuneless guitar chords and screaming vocals which equates to an unstructured racket. Some of Sum 41s stuff is catchy but on the same hand it's pretty much forgettable. These kinds of bands seem to keep their credibility because they play instruments but I can't help feeling that a lot of them are just pop posers who have learned a few chords. Whatever happened to melody?
If there's one thing that the current crop of pop metal acts (Linkin Park, Sum 41, Blink 182, Busted et al) have, it's melody. That's what makes a great pop hit. They have appropriated the energy of 'pure' rock music and made it more accessible. I would strongly disagree with them being an 'unstructured racket' - if anything, they are a reaction to bands like Korn and Rammstein, who are essentially an evolution of death/speed metal...which lacks pretty much all semblence of melody.

And of course they are pop posers...but then again, so were the Beatles. And the Stones. And David Bowie. And the Pistols. And Guns 'N' Roses. Being marketable doesn't make you a sell-out automatically.
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Old 18-03-2003, 17:11
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i used to always follows the uk top 40 but now a days i never even know who is at no.1 lol how sad am i
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Old 18-03-2003, 21:17
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i used to always follows the uk top 40 but now a days i never even know who is at no.1 lol how sad am i
If you're sad, then I must be suicidal I couldn't tell you a single song that has been in the charts this year, apart from Sinead & AInsley from F.A. !! I stopped watching TOTP about 20 years ago, and listening to Radio 1 about the time Steve Wright swapped to R.2.
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Old 15-04-2003, 02:49
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Britpop was a mixture of the good ( Blur , Pulp , Auteurs , Supergrass , St Etienne , Curve and Radiohead pre-' Ok Computer ) the bad ( Boo Radleys , Ash , the Verve , Paul Weller , the Divine Comedy , My Lifestory , Echobelly ) and the downright bleedin awful ( Oasis , Sleeper , Menswear , Flowered Up etc ad nauseum ).

In general , most of it was utterly apalling. But the best , at the time , was great.

My brief summary of Britpop is : it was pretty good in 93 ( with Leisure and Modern Life is Rubbish ) , reached its height in 94 ( with ' Parklife ' ) , became derivative in 95 ( Morning Glory ) and was all over by 96 bar the shouting. In 2003 its a walking corpse.

Contary to what you might read , Britpop did not really kill British rock music ; at the time it was a nice little antidote to the misery and depression of grunge and grunge fashion , it was light and humourous and funny and groovy.However it is the failure of British music to progress forwards from Britpop that has been the problem , the paucity of ideas and originality in music , the stifling parochialism of Union Jack guitar music , the lack of genuine charismatic talent and the lack of anything meaningful to say that has turned us into a cultural backwater. Britpop - and Oasis quite frankly - should have ended in 1996 when Robbie Williams left Take That and Boyzone and the Spice Girls started up. Instead the Gallaghers trundle on , Travis and Coldplay produce medium tempo boring strumalongs and Radiohead continue to depress the hell out of everybody.

' You get a roll with it , you get some chips with it , you get a pickled onion with it ' - old Oasis joke !
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Old 15-04-2003, 08:54
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[quote]Originally posted by Simon Owen
[b]Britpop was a mixture of the good ( Blur , Pulp , Auteurs , Supergrass , St Etienne , Curve and Radiohead pre-' Ok Computer ) the bad ( Boo Radleys , Ash , the Verve , Paul Weller , the Divine Comedy , My Lifestory , Echobelly ) and the downright bleedin awful ( Oasis , Sleeper , Menswear , Flowered Up etc ad nauseum ).

In general , most of it was utterly apalling. But the best , at the time , was great.

My brief summary of Britpop is : it was pretty good in 93 ( with Leisure and Modern Life is Rubbish ) , reached its height in 94 ( with ' Parklife ' ) , became derivative in 95 ( Morning Glory ) and was all over by 96 bar the shouting. In 2003 its a walking corpse.




I agree that 1994 was the peak of britpop but it did carry on until about 1997 and morning glory by oasis was great i haven't heard an album like that in ages.
Radiohead were so boring.
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Old 15-04-2003, 17:25
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I've finally gone off the charts too! After only 6 years I have finally started to get fed up of them!
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