I wish you would, your comment could be deemed offensive to some sections of society, unless you do say more and explain what you mean.

I doubt it would be taken off air over a comment........a strict talking to plus a one-way ticket to Love Island would do the trick, and if complaining gets PK in trouble, where do I ring up.

Can't stand the bloke

I understand it gets up some people's nose when jokes are made about being gay - but I think in this instance it was done as a fellow irishman saying a word that's 'local' to them (gayer), in a good-spirited way, meaning he was tender and feeling emotional. It made Colin giggle - he wasn't offended. That's how I saw it anyhoo. No need for complaints. Maybe people should complain about Lesley's lipstick instead she looked like she's got a heart condition !

I find it more offensive that Kielty made a comment based on the assumption that straight men cannot show emotions or feelings.

Why would that be offensive? Being a Catholic (or ANY religion) is something that is CHOSEN no one is born that way.

Therefore, if choosing to be brainwashed by such dangerous rubbish causes someone a problem, then they should go and get help for it. There are psychiatric people out there.

Remember, religion does NOT have any protection under the law or get special treatment any more so people are now free to expose it as the mental illness that it is.

If what someone has chosen is causing a problem, then chose something else then. Simple really.

Back on topic: It's isn't a hanging offence but no one has explained why exactly using gays as a joke yet again is in any way acceptable. It is NOT!

You never here someone get called "Straight" as a term of offence or a constantly used joke, do you? - Answer: No!

Therefore why shouldn't people complain when a little jerk like Kielty thinks that it's OK for him to abuse gays?

As his father was killed by loyalist paramilities during the troubles, that's not in good taste.

I think the offence you cause, is assuming that all Roman Catholics are homophobic. If you find it offensive that gay people are stereotyped, then maybe you should practice a little of what you preach.

I often think it's not what you say but who is saying it.

If, say, Jim Davidson said something "anti-gay" it would be very different if, say, David Walliams said it.

I was a bit surprised to hear Keilty say it, and he seemed a bit embarrassed afterwards.

I dislike the bloke, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here...

I didn't say ALL anywhere, so please stop making things up that don't exist.

However, he has said something and the first thing that came up when I googled him was that line I quoted where it stated that he was a Catholic.

Let's face it, if you are a good Catholic then you ARE a homophobe as the religion (in fact most of them) are stupidly against the way someone is born.

Why is it that people on here are always trying to get out of things or just to argue the toss of the sake of it? It's well know that it is a MAJOR teaching of the Catholics that they are against homosexuals. Now that in no way means of says ALL, but let's stick with some sort of reality instead of trying to dismiss the whole thing as rubbish based on the fact that Auntie Betty in Bradford is Catholic and likes gays.

Here on TV we have someone who thinks that gay people are here to be mad fun of AND he is a Catholic - It all add up nicely on my calculator.

Are you for real? We have to sit here reading everyone's autobiographies and how their parents died before we can post about them.

And to be honest, had they not have been having stupid battles there based on religion, NO ONE would have got killed!

So what on Earth has his father being killed by loyalists got to do with him making fun of gay people?

Bizarre.

But the bottom line here is that no matter how small a comment, in 2007 we really should be getting away from seeing gay people as a good source of humour.

And importantly the same joke that it's a bad thing to be gay and so used as put down.

And done so by a straight person. And one that was brought up Catholic: a religion that does see gays as wrong/sinful/inferior.

There simply IS no need for it. They just need to stop using gay people as the tag-line of their jokes.

It's funny where if you smoke within 2.5 miles of anyone nowadays you are seen as a disgusting thing in society, yet you can abuse gay people and use them as jokes all day long and even get people on here saying "Oh well, what doe sit matter?" like it doesn't matter that gay people are abused.

You didn't say ALL, but your reference to the fact that that Mr Kielty made a comment, because he was Catholic, does infer that Catholics in general are homophobic.

And could you please tell me what I am trying to get out of or arguing for the sake of it. I don't have an Auntie Betty in Bradford, but what also makes you assume that my objection to your assumption is not based in reality.

The fact that you're so condescending and dismissive of what others may find offensive, I believe dilutes your argument against Mr Kielty.

It doesn't at all I'm afraid.

If someone is taking the Micky out of someone who was born that way and has no say in the matter, then it is wrong and highly offensive. (Being Gay for instance)

If someone is commenting on something that someone has freely chosen (IE believing in made up invisible creatures) then they must expect to be laughed at and ridiculed. If they don't like that then DON'T DO IT!

As I said earlier, religion no longer has any protection against being shown up for what it is. Screaming that you are offended because everyone else must respect you for believing in invisible creatures is as delusional as believing in invisible creatures in the first place.

So the problem you are having is that you are taking two very different things and seeing them as the same when in total FACT, they are not. (One is chosen, the other not)

I hope that sorts out your confusion.

Actually quite a few of my gay friends will say to each other "Oh you big hettie" if they say something deemed "macho" or comment on a womans looks - so answer Yes!

I'm not offended in the slightest by this, but if it gets the talentless twerp thrown off the telly then it'll do the job.

Hi there, Catholic and not homophobic here.

Seemingly you don't like it when people say anything offensive to gay people, but don't mind offending Catholics?

Maybe you need to face up to the fact that you are wrong.
Last edited by The Chief : 13-03-2007 at 18:24

How can i be wrong I have fully explained it.

You on the other hand have supplied NOTHING to back up your "Maybe you are wrong"

Why did you not bother to read it as it explained it FULLY to you?

It said "good Catholic" If you are not following the brainwashing then you are not a GOOD catholic.

And please don't have a go at me when it is YOU who believes in invisible creatures!
Last edited by Stratford : 13-03-2007 at 18:32

Can we all please remember that this thread is about Kielty's Homophobic conduct and not about ME!

Thank you!

It says on Wikipedia (although I admit that's not necessarily a reliable source) that his father had nothing to do with these troubles, and was completely innocent.

While I totally agree with your first comment, I can't see how you can think that people choose freely the religion they are brought up in; rather, they have their parents' religion imposed on them until they are old enough to choose for themselves.

The telling bit in the biography of Patrick Kielty that you quoted was that he was RAISED a Catholic. I have no idea whether or not he still a practising catholic, but since he is not in holy orders, and not a spokesperson for the catholic church, I can't understand how being raised a catholic reflects on any free choice he has made as an adult.

I also feel I have to defend his reputation as a deeply cringeworthy, unfunny, presenter (which he does unfortunately portray very well on national tv ).

He is also an accomplished comedian and had a sell out tour last year, and is still a bit of a hero in these parts

Lets make it easy.

You say if you are Catholic, you are homophobic.
I am Catholic and have no prejudices against anyone because of their sexuality.

Therefore you are wrong.

PS, I did read your post and it's just a load of deliberately offensive twaddle.
I someone were to say that gay people are just mentally ill, then you probably wouldn't be too happy about it, would you?
Last edited by The Chief : 13-03-2007 at 18:39

"I did read your post" And then DELIBERATELY decided TWICE to leave out the word GOOD in an attempt to prove me wrong.

Why did you do that?

If and that's IF we are mentally ill then WE WERE BORN that way and so the same applies.

Sorry, but you can't and won't ever be able to claim the same from something that you chose. So again, please stop bringing every one down to the level of believing in invisible creatures BY CHOICE!

If all of this doesn't show the true vileness of ALL religions I don't know what will!

Anyway if you could get back on topic.
Last edited by Stratford : 13-03-2007 at 18:47

Now THAT is grossly offensive to large numbers of people, of whom there are considerably more in the UK than there are homosexuals.
I would most certainly complain about such a comment where and when ever and by whomever it was made .
MR Kielty may well be the " jerk " ( and that is just as offensive as " gayer") you call him , but he was not abusing anyone .
I have a very good friend who is homosexual and he and his friends frequently use epithets about each other which are far more abusive than this could ever be considered.

Do we all have to look at every single word we speak before we speak it for fear of offending someone ?

The Big Brother of 1984 has certainly become reality .

I find this all so very sad .
Last edited by arddunol : 13-03-2007 at 18:55

I am entitled to my opinion on religion thank you!

Believing in invisible people IS a mental illness.

I mean come on: Invisible creatures? Reality check to the DS forum please.

And they carry on like it's normal!

I don't have either the time nor the inclination to argue with you any longer, but you should consider this.

Treat others as you would be treated yourself.

You seem quick to complain when someone offends you but couldn't care less when you deliberately offend someone else, over and over again.

You say “if you could get back on topic”, but you are the one who has branded every Catholic homophobic – rather thank keeping it about Kielty.

Saying “I was born gay” is no excuse for your ignorance and offensive comments. Unless you’re now saying that all gay people are ignorant and offensive?

Is it not your choice to have homosexual relationships? You could go against your natural instincts and go out with females.
Just in the same way as I could go against my natural instincts and give up religion.