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Old 15-03-2007, 18:24
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I think Lemar is very talented - his voice is lovely.
I don't really mind if he writes his songs or not, not every singer can write and not every writer can sing.
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Old 15-03-2007, 18:31
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Originally Posted by foxyred
It was one of my favourites on the album. Don't know why he's added that backing track to it though... spoilt it imo.
I don't usually mind him TBH...but that song "Tick Tock" or whatever sounded awful and I just wanted the clock to stop


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Old 15-03-2007, 18:40
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Originally Posted by Silver River
I think Lemar is very talented - his voice is lovely.
I don't really mind if he writes his songs or not, not every singer can write and not every writer can sing.
I don't think many posters would disagree with you. The only thing I don't like is when a singer takes the credit for writing a song when actually it was, in the main, the body of work of professional composers.
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Old 15-03-2007, 18:43
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Originally Posted by foxyred
Yeah Lemar had that concept before going into the academy. He sort of hummed it to the others and Ainslee came up with ideas for it. I absolutely love that song.

Lemar is a really talented young man.
I saw him live a couple of years ago and when he sang Lullaby I had shivers up my spine - it was superb
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Old 15-03-2007, 19:02
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Lemar has written pretty much all the songs on his 3 albums, apart from maybe a couple on each.

Album 1 - Lemar wrote 13 out of the 15 tracks. Lullaby is credited as written by Lemar AND Ainsley on the album sleeve.

Album 2 - Lemar wrote 11 out of the 12 songs on the album.

Album 3 - Lemar wrote 11 out of the 13 tracks on the album.
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Old 15-03-2007, 21:05
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Originally Posted by andy614
Lemar has written pretty much all the songs on his 3 albums, apart from maybe a couple on each.

Album 1 - Lemar wrote 13 out of the 15 tracks. Lullaby is credited as written by Lemar AND Ainsley on the album sleeve.

Album 2 - Lemar wrote 11 out of the 12 songs on the album.

Album 3 - Lemar wrote 11 out of the 13 tracks on the album.
Who did he co-write the tracks with though? I somehow doubt that there are many tunes with just his name as songwriter.
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Old 15-03-2007, 23:10
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whatever - the man can sing!
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Old 16-03-2007, 00:05
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I think he is amazing. I'm disappointed with his new single 'Tick Tock' though. The album version of this song is fantastic, but it's been speeded up and changed for its single release and it's not as good.
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Old 16-03-2007, 01:31
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Lemar's new song is awful. Full marks to him for engineering free publicity on a show for charity
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Old 16-03-2007, 14:27
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I think Lemar's a great singer, but I'm not generally keen on his songs.

Actually, I felt a bit embarassed for the producers of the show because they've had to get him on for two celeb FAs in a row.

What I'd have thought would have been nice this year is instead of getting him on again, they'd had a theme night where the students had to sing one of the original songs released by former students of the proper show. That would have been really good.
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Old 16-03-2007, 14:59
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I agree completely!
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Old 17-03-2007, 21:26
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Hey, thanks for the comments. I just thought that while during FA1 he was an excellent 'copycat' soul singer, he has, in the meantime, really 'come into his own' as a 'voice'.

Happy viewing.

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Old 18-03-2007, 18:54
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Originally Posted by Gillypoots
Who did he co-write the tracks with though? I somehow doubt that there are many tunes with just his name as songwriter.
Album: Time to Grow
1 Soulman - Lemar, Fitzgerald Scott, Adam Midgely, Jamie Reddington

2 Better Than This - Lemar, Darren Brown, Giles Craig, Steve Jervier, Andy Whitmore

3 I Don't Mind That - Lemar, Obi, Johannes R. Joergensen

4 What If? - Lemar, Carsten Schack, Kenneth Karlin, Alex Cantrall, Phillip 'Silky' White

5 Call Me Daddy - Lemar, Peter Biker, Karsten Dahlgaard

6 If There's Any Justice - not Lemar (Mick Leeson, Peter Vale)

7 Don't Give It Up - Lemar, Darren Brown, Terry Brown, Wirlie 'Wyl-e' Morris

8 Time To Grow - Lemar, Fitzgerald Scott

9 Complicated Cupid - Lemar, Wirlie 'Wyl-e' Morris

10 Maybe Just Maybe - Lemar, Brian McKnight

11 Feels Right - Lemar, Darren Brown, Terry Brown

12 All I Ever Do / My Boo (Part II) - Lemar, Steve Jervier, Paul Jervier, Andy Whitmore
I'll leave someone else to hurt their eyes reading the small print for the other albums.

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Old 18-03-2007, 20:08
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Originally Posted by PeterWD
Album: Time to Grow
1 Soulman - Lemar, Fitzgerald Scott, Adam Midgely, Jamie Reddington

2 Better Than This - Lemar, Darren Brown, Giles Craig, Steve Jervier, Andy Whitmore

3 I Don't Mind That - Lemar, Obi, Johannes R. Joergensen

4 What If? - Lemar, Carsten Schack, Kenneth Karlin, Alex Cantrall, Phillip 'Silky' White

5 Call Me Daddy - Lemar, Peter Biker, Karsten Dahlgaard

6 If There's Any Justice - not Lemar (Mick Leeson, Peter Vale)

7 Don't Give It Up - Lemar, Darren Brown, Terry Brown, Wirlie 'Wyl-e' Morris

8 Time To Grow - Lemar, Fitzgerald Scott

9 Complicated Cupid - Lemar, Wirlie 'Wyl-e' Morris

10 Maybe Just Maybe - Lemar, Brian McKnight

11 Feels Right - Lemar, Darren Brown, Terry Brown

12 All I Ever Do / My Boo (Part II) - Lemar, Steve Jervier, Paul Jervier, Andy Whitmore
I'll leave someone else to hurt their eyes reading the small print for the other albums.
Thank you for that. There does seem to be a lot of collaboration on most of the tunes, leaving me to wonder just how much genuine input Lemar had with these songs.

I'm never convinced about a singer's true writing ability when there's a heavy presence of more experienced tunesmiths on the credits.
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Old 18-03-2007, 20:17
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It's hard to tell with those credits how much of an input Lemar had - from what I've seen, some artists list the songwriters in the order of their contribution to the song (so the biggest is first). It looks from those as though Lemar is just by convention listed as the first songwriter, or he was the main writer in all of the songs he's listed in (which he could I guess, but I doubt it).

From Fame Academy, it did seem Lemar was the weakest songwriter out of the top 4. Lemar isn't the complete package in that sense, but for me it's his voice that makes him stand out.
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Old 18-03-2007, 20:46
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Love his voice but can't stand seeing him.
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Old 18-03-2007, 20:56
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Originally Posted by Julian33
It's hard to tell with those credits how much of an input Lemar had - from what I've seen, some artists list the songwriters in the order of their contribution to the song (so the biggest is first). It looks from those as though Lemar is just by convention listed as the first songwriter, or he was the main writer in all of the songs he's listed in (which he could I guess, but I doubt it).
Presumably songwriters get paid for their time and effort when writing a song (as well as collecting royalties). If they are writing a song commissioned by Lemar's people, targeted at Lemar's voice and style, with some input from Lemar, then that makes Lemar the "customer" and he gets to put his name first. It would be financially beneficial for Lemar to be credited as a songwriter. There's a lot of money to be earned in royalties for a successful song.

Originally Posted by Julian33
From Fame Academy, it did seem Lemar was the weakest songwriter out of the top 4. Lemar isn't the complete package in that sense, but for me it's his voice that makes him stand out.
I agree.
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