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Old 16-03-2007, 08:02
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My little 2 year old stepson came back from his first day at nursery on Wednesday with a lovely picture of a sheep for his daddy.
The picture had the nursery rhyme I remember as "baa baa black sheep" written on it but instead of black sheep they had written it as white sheep.
Now I know it was changed from black sheep to do with political correctness but I thought it had been changed to rainbow sheep.
Surely writing it as white sheep is just as politically incorrect
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:05
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That is a bit stupid as it makes it out to be a white supremacist idea.
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:09
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They should never have banned Baa Baa Black Sheep in the first place!!!
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:09
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Originally Posted by William Hague
They should never have banned Baa Baa Black Sheep in the first place!!!
I agree .
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:11
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Oh gawd!! Here we go. :sleep:
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:11
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It's a traditional bloody song. It's been going around for years. Why on Earth would they have to change it now just because a bunch of people take ridiculous offence at anything with a colour in it?!
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:12
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Originally Posted by SweetyPie2006
It's a traditional bloody song. It's been going around for years. Why on Earth would they have to change it now just because a bunch of people take ridiculous offence at anything with a colour in it?!
Because this is PC-Britain.

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Old 16-03-2007, 08:14
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It is patetic I agree sweetypie. I don't think there was anything wrong with the original. I just don't get how they can change it from black to white . If one is offensive then surely the other is
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:16
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exactly. we live in one odd country.
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:20
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Originally Posted by MrsOggy
It is patetic I agree sweetypie. I don't think there was anything wrong with the original. I just don't get how they can change it from black to white . If one is offensive then surely the other is
I think if anything it was racist to ban black sheep.... like there is something wrong with being black??
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:26
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Originally Posted by William Hague
They should never have banned Baa Baa Black Sheep in the first place!!!
They didn't. It isn't banned.

Nurseries use the familiar Baa Baa black sheep rhyme to improve and extend vocabulary and encourage children to rhyme by substituting words.

Is there a reason for going through all this again?
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:33
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My kids (6yo and 3yo) have both learned Baa Baa BLACK sheep at both nursery and pre-school.
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:42
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If I remember right "Baa-Baa Rainbow Sheep" was just a made up invention of the Daily Mail. It's funny how it's so easy to convince some people that a fiction is reality.
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:44
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Originally Posted by kays_dad
My kids (6yo and 3yo) have both learned Baa Baa BLACK sheep at both nursery and pre-school.
All the Children I know have learnt it as Baa Baa Black Sheep too.
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:45
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Seems all a bit silly to me.
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:48
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Originally Posted by AaronG
If I remember right "Baa-Baa Rainbow Sheep" was just a made up invention of the Daily Mail. It's funny how it's so easy to convince some people that a fiction is reality.
Well, I have heard that some nurseries did lots of different verses to teach the kids their colours: so one verse of "baa baa blue sheep", then one of "baa baa orange sheep" and so on and then they did a "rainbow" sheep one. And that became the story that black sheep were banned. So goes the folk lore anyway.

Certainly, my kids know it as black sheep.
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:15
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Its not even black people who have said that they are "offended" by the song, its the nutty PC people who make ridiculous assumptions. I've certainly never come across a black person who has been "offended" by this song. I'll always say it as "Black sheep", there's nothing wrong with it, black is a colour and there are black sheep in the world.

This country is nuts!!!!!!
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:27
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if I remember the tale correctly, Black Sheep is asked if he has any wool - by some unknown protagonist

who then informs said mystery questioner (aka 'sir') that indeed he does - 3 bags in fact and 3 FULL bags to boot.

Well I'm no sheep expert (they taste nice and look cute but that's just about the limit of my knowledge on Ovis aries) but isn't 3 bags a lot of wool?

Good going black sheep!

Why take away all his hard 'wool growing work' and pass it off to some lazy white sheep who probably does nothing all day except chew grass and jump over gates making unsuspecting passer-bys fall asleep?

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Old 16-03-2007, 09:27
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Wonder if the mods would set up a 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' sub-forum ?
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:29
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Originally Posted by kays_dad
Well, I have heard that some nurseries did lots of different verses to teach the kids their colours: so one verse of "baa baa blue sheep", then one of "baa baa orange sheep" and so on and then they did a "rainbow" sheep one. And that became the story that black sheep were banned. So goes the folk lore anyway.

Certainly, my kids know it as black sheep.
I hope they didn't include grey sheep as it might offend people with grey hair, or green as it might offend people who suffer from travel sickness.
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:35
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Originally Posted by kays_dad
My kids (6yo and 3yo) have both learned Baa Baa BLACK sheep at both nursery and pre-school.
Mine too (although we did have snow white and the seven little people).
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:35
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Originally Posted by comedyfish
if I remember the tale correctly, Black Sheep is asked if he has any wool - by some unknown protagonist

who then informs said mystery questioner (aka 'sir') that indeed he does - 3 bags in fact and 3 FULL bags to boot.

Well I'm no sheep expert (they taste nice and look cute but that's just about the limit of my knowledge on Ovis aries) but isn't 3 bags a lot of wool?

Good going black sheep!

Why take away all his hard 'wool growing work' and pass it off to some lazy white sheep who probably does nothing all day except chew grass and jump over gates making unsuspecting passer-bys fall asleep?
hehe!

Why does this county have something against black sheep?? What have they done wrong?
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:36
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Originally Posted by loppytart
Mine too (although we did have snow white and the seven little people).
I haven't heard that one, but The Fat Controller from Thomas is now called 'Sir Toppum Hatt'.
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:37
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This is PC going too far - you do see black sheep.
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:41
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Originally Posted by William Hague
They should never have banned Baa Baa Black Sheep in the first place!!!
"They" haven't. A nursery somewhere near Oxford did though but I don't think that constitutes the entirety of the UK... so hooray for that!
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