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Old 16-03-2007, 17:45
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Kids these days listen to easily-accessible "protopop", with little substance or value. OK, SOME kids do.
But mostly it's because they couldn't be bothered seeking out REAL music.
So, what music would you recommend to a young person who wanted to broaden their musical horizons? And please give a short idea of a reason why, eg Led Zepellin because they shaped the future of rock, or Mozart because he was a classical genius, or Bucks Fizz because --- only joking!
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Old 16-03-2007, 18:03
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
Kids these days listen to easily-accessible "protopop", with little substance or value. OK, SOME kids do.
But mostly it's because they couldn't be bothered seeking out REAL music.
So, what music would you recommend to a young person who wanted to broaden their musical horizons? And please give a short idea of a reason why, eg Led Zepellin because they shaped the future of rock, or Mozart because he was a classical genius, or Bucks Fizz because --- only joking!
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Stockhausen, for the melodies.
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Old 16-03-2007, 18:13
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Without meaning to insult the OP, I find nothing more annoying than a music snob.

I like to listen to quite a wide range of music, and it's always good to broaden your musical horizons, but it annnoys me when people say pop music has no real substance or value. I don't see what's not REAL about it. A good song is a good regardless of what genre it is.
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Old 16-03-2007, 18:56
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Unfortunately most of the music I might recommend was probably described by the older generation when it was first released as easily-accessible "protopop", with little substance or value and not real music (Beatles, Bowie, Stones etc) so we could probably rule that out

In my experience although young people may know less about music they are more open-minded and so can be left to their own devices to discover the past. Older people, namely those who have never gotten over their musical era and either listen to music from that era or judge today's music entirely on the terms of that era, are the one's in need of a bit of education.
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Old 16-03-2007, 18:57
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The MacDonald Brothers.
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Old 16-03-2007, 19:10
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The MacDonald Brothers.

I didn't know Steve and Andy had released a record !
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Old 16-03-2007, 19:26
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Old 16-03-2007, 20:11
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The MacDonald Brothers.
They are such, dear dear sweet boys.
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Old 16-03-2007, 20:21
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avenged sevenfold - eternal rest, should be very educational.
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Old 16-03-2007, 22:31
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Okay, let's get this straight. A) I'm not a musical snob. If "kids" want to listen to what I would term as vacuous, empty pop or whatever (I'm thinking Westlife/Lily Allen/Steps/whtever --- doesn't mean they're cr*p, just that I think they are, big difference) then good luck to them. I would never force my musical opinions on anyone.
What I asked for in the opening post of the thread was for music to recommend to youngsters who MAY WANT TO BROADEN THEIR MUSICAL HORIZONS (don't mean to shout, but can't get the bold type to work,a nd wanted to emphasise).
There is so much good music (and bad) that the youth of today won't ever hear about or consider listening to, mainly because they know nothing about it. All I wanted was advice for them, a gentle nudge in a direction they MAY have been thinking of going, not a frog-march.
When I was young, there was a lot of music to choose from then too, and a lot of what I eventually got into I did so through its being recommended, or hearing it on the radio. There was a case here not so long ago where someone had admitted that they were unahppy with thier limited choice of music, and wanted guidance as to what else they should listen to. That's all I was suggesting.
It's people, in my opinion, who will leave those who want to follow the manufactured pop of the X-Factor, American Idol et al and the charts to their own devices rather than help them appreciate more thoughtful, meaningful and fulfilling music that are the musical snobs. It's like being in an exclusive club --- no-one wants to let the outsiders in.
I'd like to open the door.
Rant over, in my next post I'll detail some of the music that influenced me while growing up, and still does.
Share the wealth, that's what I say!
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Old 16-03-2007, 22:32
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Old 16-03-2007, 22:45
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So let me see what's in my MP3 player right now. Jackie Greene, nice melodies, nice voice, Leonard Cohen, more reciting than singing, but can be really addictive, Madeleine Peyroux, esp. Careless Love, swingy, nice deep voice, Rufus Wainwright, the voice is probably an acquired taste, but beautiful melodies with lots of influences, Pet Shop Boys, catchy tunes together with very nice lyrics. Then some vocal Bach, like Ich habe genug, for the sheer beauty of the sound of the old instruments and voice together, Mozart's opera arias if you like that type of music, it's delight for the ears. Then there's some hardcore left like Haendel and Vivaldi for the virtuosity of the singing
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Old 16-03-2007, 23:11
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King of the Delta Blues - Robert Johnson (or any album with all songs)
Experience - Hendrix
Blood On The Tracks - Bob Dylan
Djangology - Birele Lagrene
Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
Boy In Da Corner - Dizzee Rascal
Strong Persuader - Robert Cray Band
Jeff Buckley - Grace
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Old 16-03-2007, 23:14
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A lot of people seem to recommend Jeff Buckley. Is he that goods? Sorry, was he --- he's gone now, isn't he?
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Old 16-03-2007, 23:29
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
A lot of people seem to recommend Jeff Buckley. Is he that goods? Sorry, was he --- he's gone now, isn't he?
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Buckley, I know only Grace, well worth listening, his version of Cohen's Hallelujah is unsurpassed, IMO.
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Old 16-03-2007, 23:37
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Old 16-03-2007, 23:38
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Find out what they are into already and play them the bands which influenced those artists. You mentioned Lily (how dare you mention her in the same sentence as westlife ) , if they like Lily, play them some Specials etc.

EDIT: I think the question kind of misses the point. In my experience if someone likes good modern music, they will like good old music. If they like crap modern music they will like crap old music. Theres plenty of good modern music out there and if they have taste and are willing to search for it, then they will be listenting to it already. If they don't have taste, or just don't care, then they won't, and playin old records won't change that.

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Old 17-03-2007, 00:36
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Musical tastes are as individual (by defintion!) as the person who listens to it. The music I listen to has changed over the years - some bands remain (REM, for instance) and some bands I listen much less now. In the car, (where I listen to most of my music), I mostly listen to Coldplay, REM, Franz Ferdinand, Queen, Bowie and Kaiser Chiefs. Five years ago, it was different. I listened to much more Beatles, Oasis and Elton John than I do now. I have none of their CDs in my car now.

My point is - my musical tastes have changed over time. I hear a song, or hear about a song and I may seek it out (or, more likely, buy the album). People talk about music, they hear music all over the place. They hear it, talk about it, and, if they like it, they seek it out and buy it - be it a single, album or download. Good music will always find an audience. Don't worry about 'young' people discovering 'old' music. Good music from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's will survive for many years and the 'young' people will no doubt discover it for themselves. It is much better this way. Let them make their own musical 'journey' - it's so much more satisfying for them than being 'force-fed' so-called 'classic' music. Don't worry about it!
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Old 17-03-2007, 01:01
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
A lot of people seem to recommend Jeff Buckley. Is he that goods? Sorry, was he --- he's gone now, isn't he?
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He was amazing, with such a unique haunted voice. As someone said his cover of Hallelujah is even better than the original although my favourite song by him is 'Lover you should have come over' .

Once you've listened to him you can clearly recongnize his style and influence in many male singer/songwriters of the same genre that have come after him (Paulo Nutini is a good example).

He only made one album 'Grace' and toured for about 5 years. A live album 'Mystery White Boy' was released (I think, after his death) which IMO is better than Grace. There is also masses of his live stuff on the web.
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Old 17-03-2007, 01:26
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Well anyway from a young persons POV these are the bands that imo people should listen to at least once.

The Smiths: a band that has influenced indie/alternative music greatly. Morrissey's lyrics are just brilliant: sad, morbid but witty and hopeful at the same time.

The Velvet Underground: IMO equally as influencial but not nearly as well-known as the Beatles.

Pavement: American lo-fi indie-rock at it's best, the band that really got me into music.

Gang of Four- well really most bands from the post-punk 1970-80's era, cause most of it was brilliant. I chose Gang of Four because people can realise just how much Franz Ferdinand and Bloc Party rip them off.

(and some more recent stuff)

The Knife- Brilliant electronic based band, great to dance to. Their best song 'Heartbeats' was destroyed by José Gonzales

Skinnyman- one of my favourite british rappers, and he is white. His album, 'Council Estate of Mind' was written when he was in prison, and has a lot of interesting stuff on it.

Deerhoof- (getting more and more obscure lol) weird blend of twee indiepop melodies and, noise-rock distortions and riffs. Interesting stuff.
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Old 17-03-2007, 01:48
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Originally Posted by Jocko Homo
Well anyway from a young persons POV these are the bands that imo people should listen to at least once.

The Smiths: a band that has influenced indie/alternative music greatly. Morrissey's lyrics are just brilliant: sad, morbid but witty and hopeful at the same time.

The Velvet Underground: IMO equally as influencial but not nearly as well-known as the Beatles.

Pavement: American lo-fi indie-rock at it's best, the band that really got me into music.

Gang of Four- well really most bands from the post-punk 1970-80's era, cause most of it was brilliant. I chose Gang of Four because people can realise just how much Franz Ferdinand and Bloc Party rip them off.
Totally agree! Those four bands are the cornerstones of virtually all modern music IMO.
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Old 17-03-2007, 05:07
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Foo Fighters and more Foo Fighters. Maybe some Nirvana thrown in

The Who. Mentioned as the greatest live band ever. Yes they are!. Baba Oriley is 1 of my fave songs ever (also 1 of Gregory House's fave songs) and it sounds awesome live.
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Old 17-03-2007, 05:08
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Totally agree! Those four bands are the cornerstones of virtually all modern music IMO.
Your opinion is right
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Old 17-03-2007, 07:58
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otis, ac/dc, neutral milk hotel, marvin gaye, pink moon by nick drake.
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Old 17-03-2007, 08:51
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Originally Posted by Jamie181
Without meaning to insult the OP, I find nothing more annoying than a music snob.

I like to listen to quite a wide range of music, and it's always good to broaden your musical horizons, but it annnoys me when people say pop music has no real substance or value. I don't see what's not REAL about it. A good song is a good regardless of what genre it is.
I entirely agree with you. Musical snobbery is as bad as any kind of snobbery. Surely you can like what you like, whether it is a narrow field or a broad spectrum of music.

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