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couldn't have put it better myself. the scripts from the likes of Moffat, Shearman and co don't patronise the younger viewers, appeal to the older members of the audience and their stories have a pace and feel which isn't contrived, though it is in the lead writers work and they don't need to resort to juvenile humour. I guess their scripts feel more natural if that makes sense.
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Tooth and Claw was a nicely written piece.
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NAF - You shut up, before you put your big size 7's in it.
If you have bothered to read any of my previous posts, you will see that I did like the Slitheen. (however, I don't think that the rubber suits / CGI was particularly effective) My comment of "Hurrah - more Slitheen" was written as bait to bring out some of those posters who don't like them - and lo and behold, some prat (that would be you), jumped up and threw their toys out the pram. And I would be quite happy if the Slitheen returned.
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Tooth and Claw was a nicely written piece.
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It could have been really good except for the bad scipting for Rose and the Doctor
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sure I concede that was one of his better offerings. then he undoes it all with Love & Monsters.
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I actually thought that Love and Monsters was better than Tooth & Claw, and one of the best episodes of the 'new' series.
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Hated Love and Monsters.
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Hated Love and Monsters.
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"Tooth And Claw" was rubbish. An alien werewolf virus? An order of monks -- monks who move like they are in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon -- dedicated to infecting the British monarch with the virus for no apparent reason (other than that they are complete nutters, I suppose)? Queen Victoria's husband and another man inexplicably had foreknowledge of the diabolical plan in store for Queen Victoria, and knew just how to stop it? What a great plan -- it required a Time Lord from outer space to figure everything out, and the alien had to get the Queen to the one (small) place on earth where there is a weapon that could destroy the werewolf, and the big diamond needed to power this weapon just happened to be there at the same time? Just because a script is being written for a science fiction show, doesn't mean it is permissable for it to be a tissue of hopelessly illogical nonsense.
The much-derided "Love & Monsters," on the other hand, has real merit, because all its nonsense is INTENTIONAL. It is an outright black comedy, which of course humourless Doctor Who fanatics could not stand precisely because their revered object of obsession -- the Doctor Who series -- was taking the piss out of itself for once. The X-Files was at its most brilliant when it ventured into comedy that amounted to self-satire, and "Love & Monsters" represented an attempt (even if an unwitting one) on the part of Doctor Who's producers to go down a similar avenue. Last edited by MoreTears : 19-03-2007 at 09:27. |
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Vive la difference!
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Brilliant, another few years of companions besotted with the Doctor, slapstick villains and a new Love and Monsters each year. Best news I've had since my football team was relegated last season
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Brilliant, another few years of companions besotted with the Doctor, slapstick villains and a new Love and Monsters each year. Best news I've had since my football team was relegated last season
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Mebe we will get a musical episode... everyone needs a musical episode...
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Mebe we will get a musical episode... everyone needs a musical episode...
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Well you see I hated Buffy. I know I will get torn to pieces for saying that but I did. People think the musical thing was good but it didn't do anything for me. Why try and make Doctor Who like Buffy? It has it's own style, own history, own universe. Sure you can experiment and try out new things but don't fully copy other series otherwise you will be an inferior copy of that programme.
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Me thinks you were being a bit sarcy there Rooks. I've actually no problem with the odd comedy story but it has to be done right or it will look silly.
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Why try and make Doctor Who like Buffy?
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Well you see I hated Buffy. I know I will get torn to pieces for saying that but I did. People think the musical thing was good but it didn't do anything for me. Why try and make Doctor Who like Buffy? It has it's own style, own history, own universe. Sure you can experiment and try out new things but don't fully copy other series otherwise you will be an inferior copy of that programme.
The feisty female - Rose was well liked in the first series at least, and by many in the second series as well. The season-long story arc - phenomenally popular in the first series with 'Bad Wolf' (I did wonder whether that was a sly reference to Buffy's 'Big Bad'). Yes, they cocked it up in the second series, but it could be argued that was because they departed from the Buffy template. Wisecracking dialogue - didn't always work, but some of the banter in series 1 in particular was great fun. I think the general standard of scripting has been way above the latter years (Colin Baker onwards) of the original series. And yes, I include RTD's scripts in that! The odd 'comedy' episode - not strictly cribbed from Buffy, certainly the X-Files did it first. As, I've said, I loved Love and Monsters. Obviously it's not everyone's cup of tea, but was only a one-off. Maybe they'll do better next time. All of this has been done whilst retaining the essential elements that make Doctor Who what it is. So, it's a positive balance in the Buffy bank for me. |
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Hmm yeh erm my comment was like a joke... ooh nice and relaxed here as usual isn't it!
As for me I am nice and relaxed thank you. I just love a good debate. As you can see your comment has done just that but everyone seems to be enjoying themselves. So chill and enjoy it too.
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I agree that elements of Buffy's style have been incorporated into the Doctor Who reboot, but to say that it's been fully copied is going a bit far. After all, Doctor Who is still about a time travelling alien, rather than a schoolgirl with superpowers. As far as I can see, most of the things that have been copied (for want of a better term) from Buffy have been positively received:
The feisty female - Rose was well liked in the first series at least, and by many in the second series as well. The season-long story arc - phenomenally popular in the first series with 'Bad Wolf' (I did wonder whether that was a sly reference to Buffy's 'Big Bad'). Yes, they cocked it up in the second series, but it could be argued that was because they departed from the Buffy template. Wisecracking dialogue - didn't always work, but some of the banter in series 1 in particular was great fun. I think the general standard of scripting has been way above the latter years (Colin Baker onwards) of the original series. And yes, I include RTD's scripts in that! The odd 'comedy' episode - not strictly cribbed from Buffy, certainly the X-Files did it first. As, I've said, I loved Love and Monsters. Obviously it's not everyone's cup of tea, but was only a one-off. Maybe they'll do better next time. All of this has been done whilst retaining the essential elements that make Doctor Who what it is. So, it's a positive balance in the Buffy bank for me. |
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I agree that elements of Buffy's style have been incorporated into the Doctor Who reboot, but to say that it's been fully copied is going a bit far. After all, Doctor Who is still about a time travelling alien, rather than a schoolgirl with superpowers. As far as I can see, most of the things that have been copied (for want of a better term) from Buffy have been positively received:
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Hurrah - more Slitheen
Anyway, surely this should be seen as good news....Doctor Who will be continuing until at least 2010 and probably beyond.... Hmmm...I wonder how many spin off series there'll be by then.....(WARNING A slightly less original joke there, but it's quite new so I'll just use it six more times before dropping it! )
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Excellent news - I've really enjoyed the first two new series, love the format the show is taking.
I'll carry on watching! |
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Mebe we will get a musical episode... everyone needs a musical episode...
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