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What is the fuss about The Beatles?
I'm expected to be shot down by music fans everywhere here, but here me out.
To me they are the most overrated band in history. They are no better or worse than McFly/Busted. Most of the fans in their day were screaming females..similar to that of boybands today. Some of their songs were just ludicrous (Yellow Submarine, I am The Walrus to name two)...oh and they created the worst kareoke song in history in Hey Jude. Add to that that Paul McCartney is the most egotistical man in music...and it adds to the reasons why I don't like them at all. Part of me thinks people only like them because everyone says you should. |
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Originally Posted by Super_Steve
I'm expected to be shot down by music fans everywhere here, but here me out.
To me they are the most overrated band in history. They are no better or worse than McFly/Busted. Most of the fans in their day were screaming females..similar to that of boybands today. Some of their songs were just ludicrous (Yellow Submarine, I am The Walrus to name two)...oh and they created the worst kareoke song in history in Hey Jude. Add to that that Paul McCartney is the most egotistical man in music...and it adds to the reasons why I don't like them at all. Part of me thinks people only like them because everyone says you should. "I Am The Walrus" is only ludicrous by its title and lyrics. Other than that, its a brilliant piece of music. Their fans weren't just screaming girls, that only made up the early part of their 8 years together. They are most memorable for their studio works. Their most recent album "Love" shows just how eclectic the group is, nobody offers more variety paired with catchiness. They are truly unbeatable and why there is so much fuss about them. Its easy to miss the hype if your knowledge of them is small and comparable to McFly... |
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Ouch!
"I Am The Walrus" is only ludicrous by its title and lyrics. Other than that, its a brilliant piece of music. Their fans weren't just screaming girls, that only made up the early part of their 8 years together. They are most memorable for their studio works. Their most recent album "Love" shows just how eclectic the group is, nobody offers more variety paired with catchiness. They are truly unbeatable and why there is so much fuss about them. Its easy to miss the hype if your knowledge of them is small and comparable to McFly... |
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Originally Posted by Super_Steve
It's not really that small. I had them forced down my throat by my dad as I was growing up, and I could probbaly sing a lot of the to you without even realising it. I just don't undersatdn the hype or how someone can say they are better than any of the bands that are out today.
You have to discover the music for yourself, rather than as a reluctant listener in the background. In any case, The Beatles recorded 250+ songs....you may be able to sing/hum some of their singles, but they have far more depth to them than you could imagine at this moment. Why do you think so many bands today suck up to The Beatles so much and in awe of them? Those Beatles had the skills to pay the bills
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I've never heard anything by McFly until I caught them t'other night on Jeremy Clarkson's thing..........
I thought they were quite good............ If they can keep that up for 7/8 years, produce 10 outstanding albums and 20-30 smash number one singles............well, who knows..........
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What kind of music you into Super_Steve?
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Originally Posted by swingaleg
I've never heard anything by McFly until I caught them t'other night on Jeremy Clarkson's thing..........
I thought they were quite good............ If they can keep that up for 7/8 years, produce 10 outstanding albums and 20-30 smash number one singles............well, who knows.......... ![]() ![]() I do admit that a few of their songs sound quite beatlesque and they are obviously heavily influenced, especially All About You, which had that been recorded 40 years ago could easily have passed for a beatles tune ![]() In regard to the thread as a whole i think the beatles were a huge influence on the music world and still are, i can appreciate what they did for music and how they influenced many who followed, but at the end of the day if you don't like them you don't like them no one holds a gun to your head
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In regard to the thread as a whole i think the beatles were a huge influence on the music world and still are, i can appreciate what they did for music and how they influenced many who followed, but at the end of the day if you don't like them you don't like them
no one holds a gun to your head ![]() The Beatles had the ability to provide a huge amount of variety in every album they issued. With McFly, they seem to have two gears.....pop/rocky numbers and ballads. Thats where it ends....there are no "Tomorrow Never Knows" or "Helter Skelters" that push boundaries. |
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Originally Posted by BeatleGod
Speaking of Guns....could McFly be as great though to carry off a quality and relatively obscure track like "Happiness is a Warm Gun"?
The Beatles had the ability to provide a huge amount of variety in every album they issued. With McFly, they seem to have two gears.....pop/rocky numbers and ballads. Thats where it ends....there are no "Tomorrow Never Knows" or "Helter Skelters" that push boundaries. They did a very bluesy number specially written for the show and it was rather good. Could they carry off a song like Happiness is a Warm Gun? I see no reason why not, they do hold that beatles sound that oasis never quite captured. In fact i'd say they sound more and more like the beatles every time i hear them and if i didn't know any better i'd suggest paul mccartney himself was producing them, or george martin ![]() And i disagree with the comment about variety in every album the beatles issued, a lot of their early work is filled with songs that sound quite similar, it wasn't until later on in their career that they really started to get a proper grip on it, mcfly are where the beatles were around 63/64, so still time for them to grow into the band they want to be, they are still young remember |
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And i disagree with the comment about variety in every album the beatles issued, a lot of their early work is filled with songs that sound quite similar, it wasn't until later on in their career that they really started to get a proper grip on it, mcfly are where the beatles were around 63/64, so still time for them to grow into the band they want to be, they are still young remember
I was referring to the albums from 65-70.....which is the majority of their work. Only 63-64 focused on mainly pop songs and ballads. McFly may have that poppy edge that the fab four early on....but trust me, they are not gonna start producing a "Revolver" with their next album! Think thats a fair assumption..... |
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They may be the beatles of this generation
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Originally Posted by Super_Steve
I had them forced down my throat by my dad as I was growing up, and .
like religion etc if somebody else's views and passions are forced on you when you are young rebellion often follows your dislike of the beatles is seemingly against your dad's views rather than the group perhaps the scars go too deep from your childhood's forced diet of the beatles music for any change of thought on your side of what is a collection of some of the best (imo)songs ever penned.shame on your dad
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If that is the case then God help us all!
![]() ![]() I meant that they seem to be heading the same way as the beatles did, starting off with little ditty pop tunes and progressing to deeper music and albums. We don't know where they'll be in 10 years, same as no one could have predicted about the beatles.
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I was referring to the albums from 65-70.....which is the majority of their work. Only 63-64 focused on mainly pop songs and ballads.
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but trust me, they are not gonna start producing a "Revolver" with their next album! Think thats a fair assumption.....
![]() I tend to agree, it's unlikely, but never say never
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I suspect all the arguments over this will be repeating what is in this long running thread.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=506151 Last edited by Deep Purple : 20-03-2007 at 10:50. |
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Originally Posted by john-stirling
lol i'm not a fan of mcfly and when i said that i didn't mean literally of course
![]() I meant that they seem to be heading the same way as the beatles did, starting off with little ditty pop tunes and progressing to deeper music and albums. We don't know where they'll be in 10 years, same as no one could have predicted about the beatles. ![]() The Beatles were innovative during the 62-64 period for their time anyway, and were most importantly writing their material, something which was very rare for the time, as well as not having a set lead singer. Their "ditty" pop tunes sounded hugely fresh as the time and like no other. McFly have offered nil innovation, and the chances of them progressing to some sort of folk rock, acid, psychadellia phase is also NIL! Jesus wept! |
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well i'm sure people said that about the beatles prior to Revolver being released
![]() I tend to agree, it's unlikely, but never say never ![]() McFly are no different to the thousands of bands that have come since the Beatles. The Beatles were always special. |
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The Beatles were always special.
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I grew up listening to The Beatles and the fondest memories of my childhood come flooding back whenever I hear their music.
The Beatles were truly original, highly innovative, amazing lyricists. The sheer volume of work they created in such a short time is truly staggering - as is the variety. We regularly debate the worthiness of The Beatles here, but I remember one thread that asked for posters to list their 10 favourite Beatles tracks. The fact that many were unable to limit their choice to just 10, says something about how great they were. |
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The Beatles were way ahead of their time in terms of lyrical creativity, melodies and songwriting.
Even if you're not a fan of their music you cannot deny the influences they have had over music during the past 40 years. |
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We regularly debate the worthiness of The Beatles here, but I remember one thread that asked for posters to list their 10 favourite Beatles tracks. The fact that many were unable to limit their choice to just 10, says something about how great they were. Day in the Life Helter Skelter Strawberry Fields Forever I Am The Walrus While My Guitar Gently Weeps Rain I'm Down Blackbird Dear Prudence We Can Work It Out Jan, you're right, that is very tough....there ought to be a "50 favourite Beatles songs".
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Originally Posted by Super_Steve
I'm expected to be shot down by music fans everywhere here, but here me out.
To me they are the most overrated band in history. They are no better or worse than McFly/Busted. Most of the fans in their day were screaming females..similar to that of boybands today. Some of their songs were just ludicrous (Yellow Submarine, I am The Walrus to name two)...oh and they created the worst kareoke song in history in Hey Jude. Add to that that Paul McCartney is the most egotistical man in music...and it adds to the reasons why I don't like them at all. Part of me thinks people only like them because everyone says you should. I love Yellow Submarine - another song that shows the group's variety of styles. The lyrics of Walrus, although couched in nonsense, may have a meaning according to Ian McDonald's book "Revolution In The Head". It's also a brilliant song McCartney's personality doesn't harm his Beatle output, which is littered with classic songs. You're entitled to you're opinion Steve - and shouldn't be shot down for it
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according to Ian McDonald's book "Revolution In The Head".
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excellent book!
![]() Still one of the best ever Beatle books.Ian McDonald commited suicide some time ago, I was saddened to hear
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