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Old 24-03-2007, 00:40
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Probably the best Eastenders episode of 2007 so far and tonight it proved why it wins most of the soap awards, when Eastenders is good nothing can touch it but is still has rough episodes from time to time.
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Old 24-03-2007, 00:44
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dont all soaps have rough episodes at times, there will be times when you cant like it, not everyone likes the same storylines
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Old 24-03-2007, 00:46
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I couldn't agree with you more....if people actually watch that episode properly at least one more story started and another changed for the worst.
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Old 24-03-2007, 00:47
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indeed. im hooked on eastenders and corrie at the minute. Im delighted EE is so good again but im enjoying Corrie just as much! And sunday nights episode followed by the trial week looks fab! Both soaps and even Emmerdale have fab spring/summer line ups coming up!
Like naz said though every soap has its weaker episode...
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Old 24-03-2007, 00:50
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I agree it was the best of 2007 so far, but you're going a bit over the top there.

You shouldn't compare soaps like that either. All have their good and bad points, but no soap is 'in a different league' to another.
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Old 24-03-2007, 00:50
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Already applauded tonight's episode on another thread, but very happy to do it again.

Packed with drama, full of laughs and acted superbly throughout.

Knockout show
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Old 24-03-2007, 04:26
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Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY
Probably the best Eastenders episode of 2007 so far and tonight it proved why it wins most of the soap awards, when Eastenders is good nothing can touch it but is still has rough episodes from time to time.
For me, it's varied from almost watchable to downright appalling over the last few years with some of the supposed 'serious' drama episodes leaving me helpless with laughter, sometimes of the humorous variety, sometimes cringing in embarrassment.
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Old 24-03-2007, 04:59
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Brilliant episode! Loved it.
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Old 24-03-2007, 06:33
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just seen Denise Foxs' identical twin sister on the UK gold edition of Eastenders singing in Hughs' band at Terry and Irenes wedding reception.
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Old 24-03-2007, 07:38
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Just me then, I think Eastenders is the worst its ever been, badly acted, badly scripted and really can only see it getting worse.
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Old 24-03-2007, 08:33
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I agree that EastEnders has just been fantastic these past few weeks. Its really come back to life with the Stella stuff and now the main storylines of the past few months changing pace. Looking at whats coming up its only going to get better still.

The new EP is making his mark already.
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Old 24-03-2007, 08:36
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Personally, I feel even the better of EE eps don't even touch it's OWN eps from a few years ago.

It's all down to personal opinion of course, and people who prefer EE to Corrie will always think that EE eps are better and vice versa.

It's a bit of a pointless thread really.
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Old 24-03-2007, 08:46
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not a bad episode. but why weren't Minty and Garry at Peggy's party???
even the milkman showed.
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Old 24-03-2007, 08:47
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Eastenders was pure class last night and I it's producing better quality drama than all the soaps at the moment.
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:07
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I didn't think tonight's episode of EE was that good. I've seen 100 times better. Anyway Eastenders is improving and the storylines are finally settling. Stella/Ben is my favourite, i'm actually enjoying Stacey/Max, Rob/May/Dawn is tiresome but gets intresting in parts and i don't really care about Honey and Billy. Still the future looks bright and there are a whole load of good storylines i'm excited about.
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:12
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I love Eastenders, and I agree its on top form at the moment however Eastenders/Emmerdale can't compete with the humour of Corrie right now imo.
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:21
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Originally Posted by Domestiques
Just me then, I think Eastenders is the worst its ever been, badly acted, badly scripted and really can only see it getting worse.
No, its not just you.... though I wouldn't be quite as harsh as you were. I don't think EE is even remotely as good as it was, even in 2005.

But I agree with those who say its getting better. 2006 was the worst year for the show and it has improved, so credit where credits due.

But to say the current viewing is somehow in its own stratisphere.... either, you only started watching EE last year (in which case, fare dues), or else this is an early April Fools!

Still, things are getting better a little. Whilst I found EE virtually unwatchable in 2006 I have found myself being drawn in a little more. Still nowhere near the level it was in 2005 which was such a great year, but we can't relive the past.
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:32
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I can't see anything positive about EastEnders at the moment, and haven't done for a few years now.

The script is dire and the acting pantomime. The problem is, I think it takes itself too seriously. Prime-time BBC1 is never going to be truly "gritty" and "real" as EastEnders so desperatley wants to be. I don't find anythinng about this programme convincing, and neither do many others which is partly why the ratings have fallen so sharply.

I appreciate the humour of Coronation Street, even though I'm not a follower of that show either. When EastEnders attempts to be humorous, it's just so cringe worthy. Something about it just doesn't click "click", I think it may be something to do with the show's previous reputation as being all doom and gloom. Who knows.

Either way, if the show were to be axed I don't think it would leave much of a mark on British television behind it. It's glory days are behind it IMO. In fact, for it to end within the next year would probably help it's reputation in the long haul. It's time to stop flogging this dead horse.
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:34
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Did I watch a different episode to everyone else?

I find the Max/Stacey and Sean/Tanya storylines extremely boring, not the worst episode I have seen recently, but certainly not one of the best

On a side note, When did the upstairs of the vic get the makeover?
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:39
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It wasn't bad i'd say, about 7 out of 10 - which could have been more if it wasn't for all that *sickbucket* Stacey/Max stuff -... dragging on for absolutely ages, and nobody even cares!
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:46
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Yes it was a great episode and I agree - EastEnders at its best is truly great.
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:52
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Originally Posted by BeatJunkie
I can't see anything positive about EastEnders at the moment, and haven't done for a few years now.

The script is dire and the acting pantomime. The problem is, I think it takes itself too seriously. Prime-time BBC1 is never going to be truly "gritty" and "real" as EastEnders so desperatley wants to be. I don't find anythinng about this programme convincing, and neither do many others which is partly why the ratings have fallen so sharply.

I appreciate the humour of Coronation Street, even though I'm not a follower of that show either. When EastEnders attempts to be humorous, it's just so cringe worthy. Something about it just doesn't click "click", I think it may be something to do with the show's previous reputation as being all doom and gloom. Who knows.

Either way, if the show were to be axed I don't think it would leave much of a mark on British television behind it. It's glory days are behind it IMO. In fact, for it to end within the next year would probably help it's reputation in the long haul. It's time to stop flogging this dead horse.
I don't get what people mean when they keep saying the ratings have dropped so much. Haven't they for all shows? if you look at the ratings EastEnders is only ever 1 million behind Corrie yet some act like this is some terrible thing. A s far as I'm aware and BARB backs me up Corrie has always had a lead of 1 milion over EE. Even years ago.
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Old 24-03-2007, 11:58
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Originally Posted by I ♥ Brodie
I don't get what people mean when they keep saying the ratings have dropped so much. Haven't they for all shows? if you look at the ratings EastEnders is only ever 1 million behind Corrie yet some act like this is some terrible thing. A s far as I'm aware and BARB backs me up Corrie has always had a lead of 1 milion over EE. Even years ago.
Perhaps it's a common misconception, than.

I don't have the figures to hand but I'll take you at your word. Far more worrying for EastEnders is the fact that there is a common conception, amongst the media especially, that it is - for the lack of a better word - shite.

Whilst Coronation Street is considered to be somewhat of a national treasure, EastEnders feels like yesterday's jam. As I say, the glory days for Albert Square have passed. When the show launched, it covered issues that were pretty cutting edge and hadn't been dealt with by mainstream television. Now, that same tactic has been used by a wide variety of different programmes. IMO, part of the show's initial success was it ability to shock. It no longer has that ability, and so a large part of it's success has been ripped away.

The character development on the show isn't the best IMO, and without the shocks to fall back on, the programme has hit a real snag. That's just my opinion of course, but I would argue it's not an uncommon one.
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Old 24-03-2007, 12:00
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Eastenders is on top form at the moment, with the exception of the Rob/Dawn/May triangle, a pointless storyline that's going absolutley nowhere
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Old 24-03-2007, 12:05
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Originally Posted by BeatJunkie
Perhaps it's a common misconception, than.

I don't have the figures to hand but I'll take you at your word. Far more worrying for EastEnders is the fact that there is a common conception, amongst the media especially, that it is - for the lack of a better word - shite.

Whilst Coronation Street is considered to be somewhat of a national treasure, EastEnders feels like yesterday's jam. As I say, the glory days for Albert Square have passed. When the show launched, it covered issues that were pretty cutting edge and hadn't been dealt with by mainstream television. Now, that same tactic has been used by a wide variety of different programmes. IMO, part of the show's initial success was it ability to shock. It no longer has that ability, and so a large part of it's success has been ripped away.

The character development on the show isn't the best IMO, and without the shocks to fall back on, the programme has hit a real snag. That's just my opinion of course, but I would argue it's not an uncommon one.
Yeah misconception is probably the right word. Speaking as someone who watches both soaps when Corrie goes though its dire periods and non stop panto drama the media don't bat an eye lid. With EastEnders they can't do anything without it being headline news. However I think its wrong to say the media wouldn't care if EastEnders ended. If anything the media wouldn't allow it to happen.

I think the past year has been very good for EastEnders and its character building to be honest though. 2006 was only crap because thats all it was about building up characters on a day to day level.

EastEnders still has the power to be gripping and shocking too. The Stella stuff is proof of that and its about to get even more shocking. I think EastEnders is the first soap to do child abuse on this scale. Infact I'd even go as far as saying the Stella stuff is the best storyline in all soap at the moment.

But it is interesting what you say about the shock factor. I have been saying for ages that once Steve Forst leaves Corrie the next producer in after him is f**ked. Because he has done far too much shocking and sensational stuff in such a short space of time its not good for the long term stability of a show.

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