Unaccustomed as I am to starting threads, I was just discoursing on another thread about the way my attitude towards certain episodes of DW have changed on a second, third (or more viewings)...now, aside from telling me to find another hobby: I was just wondering if in the lead-up to Saturday night if anyone has been watching new series episodes again and changed their opinions for better or worse than when they first saw them broadcast.

In reply to your post in the other thread has you attitude to Love and Monster improved or declined??

Improved...I think it suffered from the competition to create the monster and I'm not a Peter Kay fan, but as an experiment I think it was a worthy try at widening the "TARDIS turns up, baddy alien has plot, Doctor thwarts, TARDIS leaves" formula

I didn't and still don't, think much of Fear Her

Again, I enjoyed it more this week but I think the Huw Edwards commentary about the Olympic flame being "about love" was such a mistake...

Slightly off-topic but I think the best newsreader to appear as themselves in a tv show/film was Jeremy Thompson (Sky News) in Shaun of the Dead

lol..."slightly" is a relative term here mate but indeed, although I forget his name but the annoying BBC presenter who got "offed" by the Cybermen in "Army of Ghosts" hopefully didn't here the cheer that went up throughout the nation

I didn't recognise him, was he a regional presenter for London

I think he did daytime stuff on the BBC...just desserts either way...so any episodes that you thought were worse coming back to matey?

Possibly Girl In The Fireplace and the one with the Cat-Nuns

Ah, GiTF still slays me matey...NE is kind of neutral really, I think it looks fabulous but doesn't annoy me or please me overly much...it'll be interesting to see what the revisit looks like though

I love GiTF. I really Liked Tooth & Claw in Series 2 as well. The ones I like I haven't really changed my opinion on, but the ones I wasn't too keen on have grown on me (e.g. School Reunion). Maybe that's because we've been waiting for the new series for so long though?

School Reunion is a classic for me for Liz Sladen who I grew up with as the Doctor's assistant...eh...companion...and also it's a bit fab how a bit of 80s kitsch with bad guidance like K9 still managed to steal the hearts of the kids watching it in the 21st Century...it's not a great story but the sub-text/plot is genius...

Watched Tooth And Claw again the other night and realised how much I'd underestimated it. Very good. And GITF is a classic, of course (looking forward to Blink).

i enjoyed school reuinion and most of the other episodes but i never really liked fear her, love and monsters and the impossible planet/satan pit episodes. i appriciate GiTF more after seing it a few times becuase i understand it more but i feel the same about most of the episodes.

school reunion remains my fave i think!!!

i didn't like new eartyh at first but i liked it much more on my second watch

Interesting thread...I find my opinions change a lot on later viewing. I found the least 'durable' episodes were The Satan Pit/The Impossible Planet (or was it The Satan Planet and The Impossible Pit...) - the first time round I really liked them and there are some seriously great moments - the writing-on-the-face, the floating-into-space, the Ssssh, and the what-do-you-believe conversation - but I'm afraid it's all let down by some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard ("Brace yoursewf...the sight of it 'as driven some peopwe mad"). The other way around, I find that New Earth does have lots of good stuff but vaccine-mixing is a seriously terrible payoff...

There's lots of episodes I like more on second viewing, but the ones that stand out for me are the ones that lay it all out first time - The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Girl in the Fireplace, and School Reunion. And a special mention to Dalek:I really wish I could go back in time and recapture that moment when it declared "you would make a good Dalek" - I've never been so gripped!

It is strange how with instant recording, BBC3 repeats, DVD releases and such that we can now revisit things immediately and over and over again should we so wish whereas before with the so-called "Classic" series, it was just broadcast and left us until next week's episode appeared...I've developed a love for "Invasion" now on DVD which is odd given that even I was in the womb during ti's original broadcast...

...as for "Dalek" well...it was the perfect return for the perfect foil in my humble old opinion

shame they b*****ed it up in AoG and Doomsday which reduced them to hoodies bitch slapping the Cybermen.

the impossible planet/satan pit
deffo impressed me after re-watching the episodes on tape.

my fav episodes of the last series they are now

Tooth and Claw gets better the more I watch it and Boomtown has turned out to be a rather nice character driven episode.

I do like love and Monsters but I always end it at the 'flashback' scene with his mother walking away , seems to work much better that way. Try it

New Earth Im warming to a lot, if I dont take it to seriously.

The Unquiet Dead, The empty Child/ Dr Dances, Dalek, GITF, the Impossible planet/satan Pit and a few others never fail to impress me. I put these up with the best of any old Who.

Fear her and The Cybermen two parter still dont click for me.
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Dr Who starts on Saturday? who would of guessed eh?

The irony is your Forum name in no way reflects your post
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im sorry but these new age DW just dont do it for me, sure SJS and K9 were nice, but the pertwee days were far better, take away the CGI and these so called *new* series 1 and 2 and probably 3 dont have any required connections to the original related story lines, dalek,your the last , ohh wait no your not, Dr your the last TL, ohh wait theres still ! etc .

theres not connection in any shape or form to the old story classic lines and so theres no real connection to the original Doctor, they might as well have taken any old/new time lord from one of the other dimensions and plonked that down as the new series base.

it might have been better to take the originals and re-made them following the original scripts, but that means finding actors that actually want to stay in one place for a reasonable time and not only see/use this high profile job to launch their other acting jobs only.

these drwho storys just dont cut it for me , the gold pertwee and U,N,I,T storys remade might be a far better entertainment than whats been available so far....
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Despite some Doctor Who fans foolishly insisting on calling Season 1 of the new Who "Season 27," it is a new show, a remake rather than a continuation, with the one allowance made for counting what happened in the past series as canonical "backstory." The old Who was cancelled after 1989 because even THAT long ago the BBC itself considered the show a badly out-dated embarrassment (and properly so). As much as it would have pleased the fanatics who are living in the past, if a Doctor Who for the 21st century was to be successful, it had to put a lot of distance between itself and the old show in terms of its look and narrative structure (abandoning the 25-minute multi-part serials). The only parts of the old show worth saving were the central character and the show's premise. Those were the only things that kept me watching one lousy, horribly-produced storyline after another on the old show. Now an excellent science fiction character and premise are wedded to state-of-the-art production techniques and the one-hour episode format. It is the combination Doctor Who always should have had (and don't even think of trying to revive the tired old saw about Doctor Who's production values being "state-of-the-art" for British TV at the time, as anybody can contrast the production values in Gerry Anderson's UFO or Space: 1999 with the comparatively primitive production values in Who at the same time those other series were current).
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