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Old 30-03-2007, 12:13
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Her appearance on this show just emphasised for me why Alan Sugar didn't make her the apprentice.

An apprentice is a person who works for another in order to learn .

She did not fit this criteria as she believes she already knows it all. She is formidable & her self-belief is total. Ruth in many ways is the finished product & I'm sure she will be successful but her inability either through ego or lack of intellect to realise how much she doesn't know / needs to learn will restrict her ultimately.

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Old 30-03-2007, 12:21
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Originally Posted by May Blossom
Her appearance on this show just emphasised for me why Alan Sugar didn't make her the apprentice.

An apprentice is a person who works for another in order to learn .

She did not fit this criteria as she believes she already knows it all. She is formidable & her self-belief is total. Ruth in many ways is the finished product & I'm sure she will be successful but her inability either through ego or lack of intellect to realise how much she doesn't know / needs to learn will restrict her ultimately.

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Perhaps. But she was up against Michelle Dewberry, who has not only demonstrated similar self belief (or arrogance, depending on your point of view); she got pregnant, jumped ship early, found time to write her autobiography and has actively pursued a media career. Personally, I believe Ruth would have tried harder to learn from Alan Sugar and would have lasted the entirety of her contract, which would have made her a better choice than the worse-performing hard-luck story that Sugar actually went with.
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Old 30-03-2007, 12:22
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Originally Posted by May Blossom
Her appearance on this show just emphasised for me why Alan Sugar didn't make her the apprentice.

An apprentice is a person who works for another in order to learn .

She did not fit this criteria as she believes she already knows it all. She is formidable & her self-belief is total. Ruth in many ways is the finished product & I'm sure she will be successful but her inability either through ego or lack of intellect to realise how much she doesn't know / needs to learn will restrict her ultimately.

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You just don't like her cos she's fat or gay. Why not come out with it and tell the truth instead of dressing it up? If she was a size 0 bimbo you would be licking her ass. She makes more money than you ever will and is more succesful than you ever will be. Get over it.
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Old 30-03-2007, 12:33
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Originally Posted by donlothario
You just don't like her cos she's fat or gay. Why not come out with it and tell the truth instead of dressing it up? If she was a size 0 bimbo you would be licking her ass. She makes more money than you ever will and is more succesful than you ever will be. Get over it.


How pathetic.

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Old 30-03-2007, 12:36
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Originally Posted by The Swampster
Perhaps. But she was up against Michelle Dewberry, who has not only demonstrated similar self belief (or arrogance, depending on your point of view); she got pregnant, jumped ship early, found time to write her autobiography and has actively pursued a media career. Personally, I believe Ruth would have tried harder to learn from Alan Sugar and would have lasted the entirety of her contract, which would have made her a better choice than the worse-performing hard-luck story that Sugar actually went with.
Alan Sugar has said that the quality of the candidates last year was poor with many wanting fame & media careers. I think he was left with a difficult decision & opted for the person who he felt was more willing to learn as 'the apprentice'. She was a big failure & he may regret his decision but maybe not. Alan Sugar & Ruth would have clashed early on & I don't think she would have been working for him a few months down the line.

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Old 30-03-2007, 12:40
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Originally Posted by donlothario
You just don't like her cos she's fat or gay. Why not come out with it and tell the truth instead of dressing it up? If she was a size 0 bimbo you would be licking her ass. She makes more money than you ever will and is more succesful than you ever will be. Get over it.
You accuse MB of being a 'fatist' then demonstrate that you are a 'thinist'.
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Old 30-03-2007, 12:44
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Originally Posted by May Blossom
Alan Sugar has said that the quality of the candidates last year was poor with many wanting fame & media careers. I think he was left with a difficult decision & opted for the person who he felt was more willing to learn as 'the apprentice'. She was a big failure & he may regret his decision but maybe not. Alan Sugar & Ruth would have clashed early on & I don't think she would have been working for him a few months down the line.

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I guess we'll just have to differ on this one MB. However, I'm sure we can agree that Ruth would have been unlikely to cut short her once-in-a-lifetime opportunity due to incompetence with birth control.
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Old 30-03-2007, 12:49
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I feel on The Apprentice looks do come into it so Ruth sadly fails in that department. I also think she's a little too headstrong to listen to anyone including Sir Alan, I do feel she thinks she knows it all.

She may be a good businesswoman but I wouldn't deal with her.
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Old 30-03-2007, 13:21
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Originally Posted by AubreyStevens
I feel on The Apprentice looks do come into it so Ruth sadly fails in that department. I also think she's a little too headstrong to listen to anyone including Sir Alan, I do feel she thinks she knows it all.

She may be a good businesswoman but I wouldn't deal with her.
I'm probably going to reveal more about myself than I intend here , but Ruth does NOT fail in the looks department. Yes she's big, but she's still an extremely attractive woman. You don't have to be a stick thin blonde to be attractive...
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Old 30-03-2007, 13:34
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I used to work with her a few years ago. She was very ambitious then as well.
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Old 30-03-2007, 13:51
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Originally Posted by donlothario
You just don't like her cos she's fat or gay. Why not come out with it and tell the truth instead of dressing it up? If she was a size 0 bimbo you would be licking her ass. She makes more money than you ever will and is more succesful than you ever will be. Get over it.


Have I just entered a parallel universe?

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Old 30-03-2007, 14:47
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What the hell does Ruth Badger know, he was a salesman which I thought was her best skill so should she have been fired in the first few weeks. Have you seen her website? Can you imagine the type of company who would have her in for advice
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Old 30-03-2007, 14:53
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She's too abrasive and domineering. Would be best working entirely on her own.

(And, no, it's nothing to do with her size nor being a lesbian...before anyone starts. )

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Old 30-03-2007, 21:48
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Originally Posted by donlothario
You just don't like her cos she's fat or gay. Why not come out with it and tell the truth instead of dressing it up? If she was a size 0 bimbo you would be licking her ass. She makes more money than you ever will and is more succesful than you ever will be. Get over it.
Well if that's the level of debate I'm off to the other Apprentice forum.

Plus the contestants actually post over there too.
Get the inside track on what you don't see on camera, people being ill, off camera decisions, etc.
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Old 30-03-2007, 21:51
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Originally Posted by george chick
Well if that's the level of debate I'm off to the other Apprentice forum.

Plus the contestants actually post over there too.
Get the inside track on what you don't see on camera, people being ill, off camera decisions, etc.
What forum?
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Old 30-03-2007, 22:58
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Google apprentice forum.

You'll find Tuan and Karen Bremner from series 2 over there, Tuan was invaluable in series 2 explained a lot of what was going on backstage/didn't make the edit.
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Old 30-03-2007, 23:05
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Originally Posted by george chick
Google apprentice forum.

You'll find Tuan and Karen Bremner from series 2 over there, Tuan was invaluable in series 2 explained a lot of what was going on backstage/didn't make the edit.
Right - found it!
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Old 30-03-2007, 23:22
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If you're serious about the show it's a good forum.
Hopefully another insider will give us some background info this series.
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Old 31-03-2007, 01:25
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Originally Posted by donlothario
You just don't like her cos she's fat or gay. Why not come out with it and tell the truth instead of dressing it up? If she was a size 0 bimbo you would be licking her ass. She makes more money than you ever will and is more succesful than you ever will be. Get over it.
Are you fat and/or gay, may I ask? Sound as if you've got a chip on your shoulder. Mind you, if you are a larger lady, maybe it's a bag of chips and maybe you don't put them all in your mouth
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Old 31-03-2007, 09:47
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Originally Posted by george chick
If you're serious about the show it's a good forum.
Hopefully another insider will give us some background info this series.
I also post there.

Andy Jackson has already appeared to answer questions. And friends of the candidates.

The only thing is that you feel less free to say what you like about the contestants once they are on the forum under their own names.
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Old 31-03-2007, 14:09
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Hmm. I've just checked it out - and have already got into trouble for describing one of the apprentices as a 'poisonous little creep' which is, apparently, abusive!

I feel really embarrassed now and will stay over here, where - so far - I've managed to stay out of trouble. I guess this comes of starting out in the DS Big Brother forum where, frankly, 'poisonous little creep' would pass as an endearment on some threads.
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Old 31-03-2007, 15:25
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That's what I like about it to be honest, that BB type activity gets very wearing very quickly.

I don't have a problem as I don't want to lose sight that these are thinking feeling human beings, going on a reality show doesn't give people the right to pour bile and venom on them.
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Old 31-03-2007, 15:27
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I was glad Andy went, he was just another Paul from last year.
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Old 31-03-2007, 15:32
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Originally Posted by george chick
That's what I like about it to be honest, that BB type activity gets very wearing very quickly.

I don't have a problem as I don't want to lose sight that these are thinking feeling human beings, going on a reality show doesn't give people the right to pour bile and venom on them.
I tend to agree with you as a general rule. I find it can get a bit overheated when Big Brother's airing (and a tad tedious when it's not).

I guess I just thought what I said was fair comment given the alacrity with which the individual in question - let's call him Simon - handed the poisoned chalice of team leader over to an unwilling recipient, and the backstabbing comments he uttered as soon as that person left the room.
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Old 31-03-2007, 15:50
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Originally Posted by donlothario
You just don't like her cos she's fat or gay. Why not come out with it and tell the truth instead of dressing it up? If she was a size 0 bimbo you would be licking her ass. She makes more money than you ever will and is more succesful than you ever will be. Get over it.
nowhere did the OP mention size or sexuality. Stop putting things on people that just arent true.just becaue they have different opinions to you, get over it.
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