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Doctor Who - something that might mean more?
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platelet
05-04-2007
Sometimes I think people go out of the way to miss read my posts...

I never said that Buffy was ripping off Dr Who was ripping off buffy etc. All I said was that if you want to look for future plot developments you can look at Buffy because RTD has openly admitted that he was inspired by it.


It was then stated that you can't compare the two shows - which I did.

I don't give a **** who came up with the monster of the week format, what is relevant is that they both use it.

Angel may not be the first show to have a spin off series, I'm not saying that you can only compare Dr Who to Buffy, I'll conceed that it is similar to over shows as well, again I don't really see how that effects my point.

If Buffy used something that has been happening in Dr Who since the year dot, it makes it easier to compare them, not harder.



As Willow would say: "Bored Now"
Histeria
05-04-2007
Since joining DS, I've learnt that if you post "I'm not saying x", someone will invariably post a long diatribe citing multiple googled sources was to why you were wrong when you said x.
bigalt
05-04-2007
Could Mr Saxon be the Meddling Monk. Left stranded in Norman times by the Doctor. Would he have surrived the Time War if he was still on Earth at the time.
S.T.A.R.S
05-04-2007
yer its very intresting but when she says loney now and loney as boy could it some how suggest he wasnt in the time war thats why he is the only one left?
Slushccool
05-04-2007
I think I shall watch everything again and see whethe rI can pick up on anything more like that. It will be interesting to see how things play out, and I have a feeling my questions may be answered by the end of this season.
platelet
05-04-2007
Originally Posted by S.T.A.R.S:
“yer its very intresting but when she says loney now and loney as boy could it some how suggest he wasnt in the time war thats why he is the only one left?”

Nah, I think the other timelordlings just wouldn't play with him because he was a half-human
S.T.A.R.S
05-04-2007
spose? but this must have a meaning was there a reason for why he surrvived the time war?
Cookie Crumbler
05-04-2007
Originally Posted by platelet:
“Nah, I think the other timelordlings just wouldn't play with him because he was a half-human”

Those words are sacrilege!
S.T.A.R.S
05-04-2007
do you think the time lords palyed with each other then
Tegan Jovanka
05-04-2007
Originally Posted by codename_47:
“Please note that I did resist the temptation to respond angrily to your Buffy slander (mainly because your opinion rackled as someone who had never actually seen an episode yet had applied all the generalisations that a show with a title "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" might provoke.....I just so wanted to reply to your post "But Xander is UGLY...THAT proves you wrong! ) but as a big Buffy fan and a getting towards being a big Dr Who fan too, I can say that what the two series have in common is the merging of real life with something extraordinary, in Buffy's case, the supernatural and extra terrestrials in DW

Now, go and give Buffy another chance....just err...start from season 2, eh? ”

I have seen Buffy (I have friends like you who love it) and just didn't like it- sorry. My response was simply to so many of you wanting Doctor Who to be like Buffy. It's not like it at all and if it was I wouldn't watch it. I know Buffy was very popular with fans and I did want to like it but like Torchwood I just did not enjoy it. My post was light hearted and not mean't to cause offence. Thank you for proving me wrong I forgot Xander was ugly!!
I like Sarah M.G and Mr. Head too. Think they are fantastic.
By the way I loved Firefly so I am not bashing the writer or anything either. I am glad you like Doctor Who as I do too, however I will only praise it when it is good and certainly don't think it's wonderful all the time. Anyway enjoy the new series and hope to chat with you soon..
Tegan Jovanka
05-04-2007
Originally Posted by Histeria:
“The reasoning was to force Buffy to stand up as a woman, and the arc of how she coped (or rather didn't) in the subsequent season as an adult and carer.
I do, however, find the comparisons between the two shows pretty tenuous. 'Torchwood' would have given it's left nut to be 'Angel', but I don't see much of a DW/Buffy connection myself.”


Thank you. This was simply the point I was trying to make. I am not a Buffy fan and you are yet you can see their is no connection. Let us all enjoy those series for what they are not try and morph one into the other.
Tegan Jovanka
05-04-2007
Originally Posted by bigalt:
“Could Mr Saxon be the Meddling Monk. Left stranded in Norman times by the Doctor. Would he have surrived the Time War if he was still on Earth at the time.”

I thought
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the meddling Monk could turn out to be an earlier version of the Master, who became bitter after the Doctor left him trapped in his Tardis for hundreds of years.
CAMERA OBSCURA
06-04-2007
Originally Posted by Histeria:
“Since joining DS, I've learnt that if you post "I'm not saying x", someone will invariably post a long diatribe citing multiple googled sources was to why you were wrong when you said x.”

That's because some people confuse their own personal opinion with fact, which is funny when the facts say something completely different.

If I were to say The Beatles are the worst band ever and couldnt write a song to save their lives, that would be my own personal opinion but if I added that they arent respected within the music industry I'd be wrong, the actual hard facts say different.

I would then no doubt follow replying posts that clearly state the facts with

Yeah, Yellow Submarine



Strange analogy I know but it's late.
Last edited by CAMERA OBSCURA : 06-04-2007 at 00:54
Kryptonson
06-04-2007
Originally Posted by bigalt:
“Could Mr Saxon be the Meddling Monk. Left stranded in Norman times by the Doctor. Would he have surrived the Time War if he was still on Earth at the time.”

not true. The name of the war "Time War" implicates that the war took place along all of linear time, meaning it isn't just a matter of where the battle takes place, but when as well.
bigalt
06-04-2007
If all TimeLords were killed apart from the Doctor, no matter where of when they were located. If Saxon turns out to be the Master what the explanation will be of how he survived it. If they come up with his TARDIS being stuck in the Void I'm telling you I'll scream and scream and scream (slipping into Bonnie Langford mode )
bigalt
06-04-2007
Originally Posted by Tegan Jovanka:
“I thought
Spoiler
the meddling Monk could turn out to be an earlier version of the Master, who became bitter after the Doctor left him trapped in his Tardis for hundreds of years.
”

That has been thought about for years. It could explain why when the Master was first shown he was always trying to destroy/rule the earth.
The Slug
06-04-2007
Originally Posted by bigalt:
“That has been thought about for years. It could explain why when the Master was first shown he was always trying to destroy/rule the earth.”

I thought that was down to budget! And the fact that people can't relate to other planets...
evilfish
06-04-2007
Originally Posted by bigalt:
“If all TimeLords were killed apart from the Doctor, no matter where of when they were located. If Saxon turns out to be the Master what the explanation will be of how he survived it. If they come up with his TARDIS being stuck in the Void I'm telling you I'll scream and scream and scream (slipping into Bonnie Langford mode )”

The Master would've survived inside the heart of The Doctor's TARDIS. He was last seen falling into the Eye of Harmony inside the TARDIS. Potentially he could have been released when Rose opened the heart in 'The Parting of the Ways'.
allisonbm2
06-04-2007
Originally Posted by evilfish:
“The Master would've survived inside the heart of The Doctor's TARDIS. He was last seen falling into the Eye of Harmony inside the TARDIS. Potentially he could have been released when Rose opened the heart in 'The Parting of the Ways'.”

that was my thinking too but how would he have got a tardis? Is the reason we haven't heard from him for so long that he has been growing one?..or did he find one clinging on to life somewhere? Is he in some way responsible for Jacks missing two years of memory? why can I only type in questions...?
evilfish
07-04-2007
Originally Posted by allisonbm2:
“that was my thinking too but how would he have got a tardis? Is the reason we haven't heard from him for so long that he has been growing one?..or did he find one clinging on to life somewhere? Is he in some way responsible for Jacks missing two years of memory? why can I only type in questions...?”

Easy, he hasn't got one. All the Saxon references (so far) have been in present day earth episodes. The Master was released in our time line and was trapped there. So he has established himself in our timeline waiting for the right time for revenge or whatever he intends to do....think more regenerations.
Black Guardian
07-04-2007
Originally Posted by evilfish:
“Easy, he hasn't got one. All the Saxon references (so far) have been in present day earth episodes. The Master was released in our time line and was trapped there. So he has established himself in our timeline waiting for the right time for revenge or whatever he intends to do....think more regenerations.”

that is what I am thinking too...especially with events that occur in episode 6...The Lazarus Experiment.

this might be of interest to people....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus
Last edited by Black Guardian : 07-04-2007 at 12:58
Cookie Crumbler
08-04-2007
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“not true. The name of the war "Time War" implicates that the war took place along all of linear time, meaning it isn't just a matter of where the battle takes place, but when as well.”

I think, from what has been said in the series, that it is totally the opposite case. The Time War, based on my interpretation of what little information about it that has been drip-fed to us, actually took place outside of time.

Remember, we're dealing with Time Lords, they can do that sort of stuff, and judging by the "emergency temporal shift" from Parting Of The Ways, so can the Daleks now, although the Time Lords vowed never to let the Daleks have time travel technology because the implications for the universe would be catastrophic, so I'm wondering how (and where) they got it.
tardis_princess
08-04-2007
the masters with out a tardis he wants to kill td
soo he could saxon
The Slug
08-04-2007
Originally Posted by tardis_princess:
“the masters with out a tardis he wants to kill td
soo he could saxon”

Why did I see an 'r' there?
tardis_princess
08-04-2007
Originally Posted by evilfish:
“A really good theory there, one that could very well be true. Everyone (including me) is looking out for The Master when they could well go down a totally different route. On a side note I did think that there was unfinished business with the Impossible Planet/Satan Pit episodes as we never really established who or what the Beast actually was. If it was the Devil and The Doctor did kill him, does that mean The Doctor is God?”

Good point, and makes sence. Hasnt it come up befgore
FOB- the lonley god
boom town: tecnology of the gods
And others that i can't remember where they came from.
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