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Smoking in Soaps
So since this new legislation comes in later this year, do you think it will be mentioned in the soaps? After all, they will not be allowed to smoke in the pub etc. any more.
Then I realised, will anybody be able to smoke in the "privacy of their own home?" After all, this would still happen in real life, but will they be able to film it as it is a closed set? Will they even be allowed to film characters smoking outside, as technically they are still in a workplace? I just think a bit part of realism will be taken away from soaps if this happens. |
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So since this new legislation comes in later this year, do you think it will be mentioned in the soaps? After all, they will not be allowed to smoke in the pub etc. any more.
Then I realised, will anybody be able to smoke in the "privacy of their own home?" After all, this would still happen in real life, but will they be able to film it as it is a closed set? Will they even be allowed to film characters smoking outside, as technically they are still in a workplace? I just think a bit part of realism will be taken away from soaps if this happens. Indoor sets will be affected. I think the only difference from Scotland is that it will be allowed on stage (strange since that is indoors). Outdoor sets I'm not sure of. The next "Big Brother" will be no-smoking indoors as the local council ruled it was a place of work, with the housemates as well as staff being paid employees. Can't see it affecting present day dramas as much as period ones. Some soap characters will no doubt be seen to give up and they wouldn't be able to smoke in indoor places other than their character's home. G Last edited by cobaltmale : 04-04-2007 at 10:30. |
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Maybe they'll film all the smoking outside (Deirdre
).Stupid law anyway. Why doesn't it apply in the House of Commons? Isn't that a workplace? Oh maybe not. ![]() I agree though, people will still smoke in their homes so it should be shown, after all they show other things that you're not allowed to do in the street or at work
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Yolande mentioned it last night in EE as she told Dot to stop smoking in the laundrette before the ban comes in.
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Yolande and Dot were discussing this in EastEnders last night. Yolande wants Dot to stop smoking in the laundrette due to the new legistation.
EDIT: Beat me to it Zoe! |
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Why doesn't it apply in the House of Commons? Isn't that a workplace?
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The chamber was one of the first places to impose a ban ... centuries ago.
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They'll still be allowed to smoke in their 'green rooms' and bars though.
Just wanted to quantify the misconception. G |
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Can't see it affecting present day dramas as much as period ones. Some soap characters will no doubt be seen to give up and they wouldn't be able to smoke in indoor places other than their character's home.
G There was a lot of smoking in EE and Corrie this week so maybe they are maximising the habit now to give a no smoking storyline more impact later. I think it looks disgusting and wish they didn't have characters do it, it wouldn't be missed. |
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Characters homes are part of the work place.
(that's the only contradiction).G |
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Its just making the soaps even more unrealstic, because I am sure with this everyone will give up smoking
What next Ban alcohol being drunk Ban any junk food being sold/eaten in soaps |
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Its just making the soaps even more unrealstic, because I am sure with this everyone will give up smoking
They haven't in "River City" as I recall. Just a bigger ratio of outdoor scenes. (I think you can have an unlit one on the go). G |
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They haven't in "River City" as I recall. Just a bigger ratio of outdoor scenes.
(I think you can have an unlit one on the go). G If we look at EE though, the whole of Albert Square is a work place, so even though its outside, smoking will be banned If this is the case I find it unrealistic If it was real life, when the ban comes in, if Dot wants a fag she will have to stand outside the launderette, will this happen? What about inside her own home |
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Never seen River City, so dont really know much about it
If we look at EE though, the whole of Albert Square is a work place, so even though its outside, smoking will be banned G |
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No - see the "Big Brother 8" decision that Hertfordshire council (same studio) made. They ruled the whole place a workplace but smoking is still to be allowed in the garden.
G If soaps stick to how it would be in real life I have no problem |
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If soaps stick to how it would be in real life I have no problem
I'm sure they're all aware of this though and no doubt have a workaround. For starters I'm sure there is a visual effect they used on "Early Doors" and "The Smoking Room" (poss also "Life On Mars") to create a grey fog 'in' the room that doesn't actually exist. That in combo with an unlit cigarette might suspend disbelief. G |
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If it was real life, when the ban comes in, if Dot wants a fag she will have to stand outside the launderette, will this happen?
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If soaps stick to how it would be in real life I have no problem
btw, not stalking you, 'onest guv
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I am confused on the Big Brother 8 Ruling.
I work in the pub/restaurant/hotel industry & have researched the details of the smoking ban. At a hotel (and in prisons) you as the customer are living at the site & so as it is your "home" ,albeit temporarily, you have the right to smoke if the owner allows you to. I thought it would be the same with Big Brother, its' their home for the duration, there for it is Endomols decision if they are going ot allow the HM's to smoke in the home they are providing for them. |
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II thought it would be the same with Big Brother, its' their home for the duration.
With prison no-one directly pays (except the taxpayer) and in a hotel you pay the hotel. G |
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PMSL, since when did soaps stick to how things are in real life?
btw, not stalking you, 'onest guv ![]() But if you are watching EE one day, then the next day (after the ban comes in), everyone stops smoking altogether, it looks stupid Would Dot really give up smoking in a matter of days |
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But if you are watching EE one day, then the next day (after the ban comes in), everyone stops smoking altogether, it looks stupid
I don't think it will be done like that. Ironically though places like the Queen Vic will have to observe a ban that's not 'really' in place for several weeks before 1 July. G |
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I love the selferightous messages that you keep slipping onto your posts junglejuice.
I'm sure you must be one of these poor soles who has been stranded in your homes, wishing you could go to the pub, but are terrified of the chance of getting some ciggaret smoke near you. I'm sure you'll all be rushing out to the pubs & restaurants in droves once the ban comes in .............oh no hang on that's not whats happened in Scotland or Ireland, infact it's having a dire affect on the industry, but hay-ho, just think of the future........ my children won't even get to find out what a rural pub was like, becasue they will all have gone bust & been turned into houses, just like what's happened in Ireland & is happening in Scotland.Yippee for nanny
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I love the selferightous messages that you keep slipping onto your posts junglejuice.
I'm sure you must be one of these poor soles who has been stranded in your homes, wishing you could go to the pub, but are terrified of the chance of getting some ciggaret smoke near you. I'm sure you'll all be rushing out to the pubs & restaurants in droves once the ban comes in .............oh no hang on that's not whats happened in Scotland or Ireland, infact it's having a dire affect on the industry, but hay-ho, just think of the future........ my children won't even get to find out what a rural pub was like, becasue they will all have gone bust & been turned into houses, just like what's happened in Ireland & is happening in Scotland.Yippee for nanny ![]() Not that you appear to have any agenda ... G |
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But if you are watching EE one day, then the next day (after the ban comes in), everyone stops smoking altogether, it looks stupid
Would Dot really give up smoking in a matter of days |
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