Just been reading the Fear Forecast of the Shakespeare Code, and came across this rather intriguing comment made by two of the older kids, who have watched the episode:

Possibly



or



Who knows! (no pun intended)

I'm not sure the kids doing Fear Factor would know



so it is a genuinely intriguing comment. But taking into account this story takes place (as far as I know) entirely in the past, it means that

Last edited by steveyboybmth : 05-04-2007 at 18:32

Yes this whole train of thought has shunted through the station of my mind. But for what is being suggestedwhich is unlikely, orwhich I would have thought is highly unlikely at this point of the series.

I think they're talking about someone from the last two years, and my first thought is
Last edited by The Slug : 05-04-2007 at 19:11

The kids from the Fear Factor saw the trailer after the Runaway Bride and, like so many other people, misidentified the Judoon as Sontarans. So they definitely know a bit about the various aliens from the classic series.

It also means we shouldn't take it as gospel that they've correctly identified whoever-they-think-it is in The Shakespeare Code.

looks like it was, of course, Queen Elizabeth I...

but why the hell was she the Doctor's sworn enemy? Did I miss something?

The Doctor seems to make enemies of all our favourite female monarchs!

Maybe he actually does meet Queenie again in a future episode! Then it'd be revealed.

But when did he meet Elizabeth I before?

In the future, obviously!

In the future, but in the past!

Aye, still in Tenth Doctor mode, but a future visit to before 1599!

A future visit back to a time before 1599 for the Doc, but a past visit back to a time before 1599 for Queen Liz ..... my head is starting to hurt just a bit .....

Hehe... but I thought it was someone that the kids watching it had seen before?

The kids have seen Queen Elizabeth before! They love their history books!

I think this was a clever sleight-of-hand by the (almost entirely redundant) Fear Forecast people, leaving that in to scintillate the fans.

As to Queen Elizabeth, I guess it was just one of those time-travel high jinks that any of the previous million writers could have used to end a story but didn't...

I'm vaguely concerned that RTD seems to be allowing the Doctor to annoy every famous English monarch he encounters...a tad of Republicanism coming through there, I think. And a hint of historical ignorance, I feel. But ho hum, let's not go down that alley...

"I know who it is!" shouts Harry excitedly as a familiar face turns up. "The Doctor's sworn enemy. Again!" says Samuel.

they just don't know their Queen Elizabeths from their Queen Victorias ,history in schools isn't what it used to be

They'd just finished watching Shakespeare in Love, obviously...

You might be reading too much into it - how about some basic irreverence directed towards powerful figures in history?

RTD also hates the government though! Tony Blair - he killed him in the Slitheen two-parter, then replaced him with Harriet Jones who then became Thatcher (the Belgrano/Sycorax incident) and axed her.

Aye, he be the Shelly of the 21st Century

Shelly? We talking Hywell Bennett slacker sitcom character or poet junkie?