They made a passing reference, which is good enough. There is no need to go on a longwinded rant.
Dr. Who & Black People
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Nice Shakespearean adjectives there - neat the way they made him fancy her too. And for those who moaned - they did comment on her nice leather jacket!
yeah...they even introduced black people who were running around like they weren't indentured slaves...Nice revisionist history brought to you by the BBC propaganda department
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“yeah...they even introduced black people who were running around like they weren't indentured slaves...Nice revisionist history brought to you by the BBC propaganda department”
“yeah...they even introduced black people who were running around like they weren't indentured slaves...Nice revisionist history brought to you by the BBC propaganda department”
Propaganda? What are you smoking? Not all black people WERE slaves then, you cretin! At least read the thread or some of the links people have kindly posted in here before you spout off...
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“yeah...they even introduced black people who were running around like they weren't indentured slaves...Nice revisionist history brought to you by the BBC propaganda department”
“yeah...they even introduced black people who were running around like they weren't indentured slaves...Nice revisionist history brought to you by the BBC propaganda department”
It's ENTERTAINMENT, not a history lesson or documentary. Maybe it's not the BBC that has the agenda?
*sigh* yeah yeah I've read through some of it, and while there are exceptions to the rule in society, it wasn't nearly common enough to insinuate that black women walked around reasonably well clothed for the period. And don't call me a cretin, not necessary. Apologise. Now.
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“I think they should make a passing mention to the race issue (not yell racial slurs at her).
I love the fact that people on ds (seem to) believe we live in utopia.”
“I think they should make a passing mention to the race issue (not yell racial slurs at her).
I love the fact that people on ds (seem to) believe we live in utopia.”
And I love how some people can only exist when they are on their soapbox blowing off about tv programmes which hadn't even been aired when they began to whinge.
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“*sigh* yeah yeah I've read through some of it, and while there are exceptions to the rule in society, it wasn't nearly common enough to insinuate that black women walked around reasonably well clothed for the period. And don't call me a cretin, not necessary. Apologise. Now.”
“*sigh* yeah yeah I've read through some of it, and while there are exceptions to the rule in society, it wasn't nearly common enough to insinuate that black women walked around reasonably well clothed for the period. And don't call me a cretin, not necessary. Apologise. Now.”
You read *some* of it. Maybe read some more. You still haven't explained the "propaganda" comment. Surely it's not a bad thing to promote racial harmony?
Not gonna apologise. Now or ever.
Originally Posted by donlothario:
“And I love how some people can only exist when they are on their soapbox blowing off about tv programmes which hadn't even been aired when they began to whinge.”
“And I love how some people can only exist when they are on their soapbox blowing off about tv programmes which hadn't even been aired when they began to whinge.”
Did I whinge?
My comment about utopia is general, not relating to Dr.who alone. It is something I observed about DS when the issue of race is brought up.
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“Did I whinge?
My comment about utopia is general, not relating to Dr.who alone. It is something I observed about DS when the issue of race is brought up.”
“Did I whinge?
My comment about utopia is general, not relating to Dr.who alone. It is something I observed about DS when the issue of race is brought up.”
Why bring up the topic in this forum if it is meant for general discussion?
Originally Posted by amos_brearley:
“You read *some* of it. Maybe read some more. You still haven't explained the "propaganda" comment. Surely it's not a bad thing to promote racial harmony?
Not gonna apologise. Now or ever.”
“You read *some* of it. Maybe read some more. You still haven't explained the "propaganda" comment. Surely it's not a bad thing to promote racial harmony?
Not gonna apologise. Now or ever.”
Well. Sure there's no harm in promoting racial harmony, especially with the fact that the new series of doctor who has a target demographic that could be deemed as children, but let's still keep that in perspective; Britain most certainly wasn't the multicultural society our government likes to make us out to be these days.
And I say the BBC propaganda department, because they do like to cushion us from the truth if they think it's going to cause some friction, don't they?
And go on. Please? You hurt my feelings. I'll buy you some sherbert lemons if you do? Or even some Jelly Babies?
Originally Posted by donlothario:
“Why bring up the topic in this forum if it is meant for general discussion?”
“Why bring up the topic in this forum if it is meant for general discussion?”
It....was....a....passing...comment....
Get over yourself!
ETA: I am not sure why you have such a big problem with this.
Last edited by cybergirl3 : 07-04-2007 at 21:35
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“Well. Sure there's no harm in promoting racial harmony, especially with the fact that the new series of doctor who has a target demographic that could be deemed as children, but let's still keep that in perspective; Britain most certainly wasn't the multicultural society our government likes to make us out to be these days.
And I say the BBC propaganda department, because they do like to cushion us from the truth if they think it's going to cause some friction, don't they?
And go on. Please? You hurt my feelings. I'll buy you some sherbert lemons if you do? Or even some Jelly Babies?”
“Well. Sure there's no harm in promoting racial harmony, especially with the fact that the new series of doctor who has a target demographic that could be deemed as children, but let's still keep that in perspective; Britain most certainly wasn't the multicultural society our government likes to make us out to be these days.
And I say the BBC propaganda department, because they do like to cushion us from the truth if they think it's going to cause some friction, don't they?
And go on. Please? You hurt my feelings. I'll buy you some sherbert lemons if you do? Or even some Jelly Babies?”
Ooh I love Jelly Babies. But not the black ones. Black jelly babies are from the Bassetts propganda department!
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“It....was....a....passing...comment....
Get over yourself!”
“It....was....a....passing...comment....
Get over yourself!
”
You brought up the issue of race? would you like some toast?
Originally Posted by amos_brearley:
“Ooh I love Jelly Babies. But not the black ones. Black jelly babies are from the Bassetts propganda department!”
“Ooh I love Jelly Babies. But not the black ones. Black jelly babies are from the Bassetts propganda department!”
yes. I agree. They're as bad as the people who banned the GollyWog dolls from our sight forever.
Wait. They actually were racist weren't they?
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“yes. I agree. They're as bad as the people who banned the GollyWog dolls from our sight forever.
Wait. They actually were racist weren't they?”
“yes. I agree. They're as bad as the people who banned the GollyWog dolls from our sight forever.
Wait. They actually were racist weren't they?”
And poor Robertsons Jam had to hide their figurehead. My slave Kunta Kinte used to love their marmalade.
Originally Posted by amos_brearley:
“And poor Robertsons Jam had to hide their figurehead. My slave Kunta Kinte used to love their marmalade.”
“And poor Robertsons Jam had to hide their figurehead. My slave Kunta Kinte used to love their marmalade.”
Political Correctness gone mad I tell you! Next thing you know, they'll be allowing women to vote! Dangerous times, I tell you.
We must be careful.
Curlywurly?
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“You brought up the issue of race? would you like some toast?”
“You brought up the issue of race? would you like some toast?”
Contributed to a thread that someone else started. And I believe I made a pretty levelheaded comment cos whether the people on Ds like it or not, majority of black people were treated a certain way in those times and we are all aware of it. There is no need to try and re-write history and pretend balck people were all given stately homes when they arrived in uk. It is a TV drama, not a documentary, I felt a passing mention will do.
As for toast, I would love some thanks! I haven't had dinner and I am too lazy to cook.
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“Political Correctness gone mad I tell you! Next thing you know, they'll be allowing women to vote! Dangerous times, I tell you.
We must be careful.
Curlywurly?”
“Political Correctness gone mad I tell you! Next thing you know, they'll be allowing women to vote! Dangerous times, I tell you.
We must be careful.
Curlywurly?”
Are you calling me a Curlywurly cos I'm black?
Like a Fuzzy Wuzzy from "Dad's Army" ?
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“It....was....a....passing...comment....
Get over yourself!
ETA: I am not sure why you have such a big problem with this.”
“It....was....a....passing...comment....
Get over yourself!
ETA: I am not sure why you have such a big problem with this.
”
Two posts - one in reply to you - is a big problem???
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“Contributed to a thread that someone else started. And I believe I made a pretty levelheaded comment cos whether the people on Ds like it or not, majority of black people were treated a certain way in those times and we are all aware of it. There is no need to try and re-write history and pretend balck people were all given stately homes when they arrived in uk. It is a TV drama, not a documentary, I felt a passing mention will do.
As for toast, I would love some thanks! I haven't had dinner and I am too lazy to cook.”
“Contributed to a thread that someone else started. And I believe I made a pretty levelheaded comment cos whether the people on Ds like it or not, majority of black people were treated a certain way in those times and we are all aware of it. There is no need to try and re-write history and pretend balck people were all given stately homes when they arrived in uk. It is a TV drama, not a documentary, I felt a passing mention will do.
As for toast, I would love some thanks! I haven't had dinner and I am too lazy to cook.”
Y'see, I'm all from the school that demands realism, where we tell people that britain in the old days was a cruel and sadistic time, when black people were treated like crap, women were pretty much nothing but glorified sex toys for the personal pleasure of their spouses and the rich got richer at the expense of the lower classes they subjugated...And then the 1980's ended, and the thatcher era really got going.
*sigh* the good old days.
Jam or Marmalade on your toast? or even beans?
Originally Posted by donlothario:
“Two posts - one in reply to you - is a big problem???”
“Two posts - one in reply to you - is a big problem???”
I give up - you are obviously spoiling for an argument.
Originally Posted by amos_brearley:
“Are you calling me a Curlywurly cos I'm black?
Like a Fuzzy Wuzzy from "Dad's Army" ?”
“Are you calling me a Curlywurly cos I'm black?
Like a Fuzzy Wuzzy from "Dad's Army" ?”
Are you black? I'm half greek! And no...Curlywurlies are fun and chocolatey.
wait. that sounded better in my head.
Originally Posted by Kryptonson:
“Y'see, I'm all from the school that demands realism, where we tell people that britain in the old days was a cruel and sadistic time, when black people were treated like crap, women were pretty much nothing but glorified sex toys for the personal pleasure of their spouses and the rich got richer at the expense of the lower classes they subjugated...And then the 1980's ended, and the thatcher era really got going.
*sigh* the good old days.
Jam or Marmalade on your toast? or even beans?”
“Y'see, I'm all from the school that demands realism, where we tell people that britain in the old days was a cruel and sadistic time, when black people were treated like crap, women were pretty much nothing but glorified sex toys for the personal pleasure of their spouses and the rich got richer at the expense of the lower classes they subjugated...And then the 1980's ended, and the thatcher era really got going.
*sigh* the good old days.
Jam or Marmalade on your toast? or even beans?”
I feel realism is too serious for the show.
I LOVE Orange Jam on my toast, perferably by Robinsons with Shreds and a picture of Gollywog on the jar
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“I give up - you are obviously spoiling for an argument.”
“I give up - you are obviously spoiling for an argument.”
Don't listen to the nasty man. He's a misanthrope.
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