Help with HD for Xbox (merged)

Gadgets78 · 09-04-2007, 15:57

I am thinking about getting the Bush LCD19TVO16HD HD ready LCD ready TV for my Xbox 360. Its has a scart, S Video, and a HDMI port.

I currently have my Xbox hooked up to my rear projection TV via its S video using 3 cables

Now I am not quite up to date with the HD stuff, however I was thinking about getting the above Bush HD tv to utilise the HD graphics on the Xbox. Is the above Bush TV okay, can I just plug my xbox in again using the S video? Or do I need something else?

Red Arrow · 09-04-2007, 16:10

I am not 100% sure, but I don't think a s-video cable outputs in HD. Meaning you could connect your 360 to that tv, but it would not be HD quality. Like I said I am not fully sure about that.

My advice would be to find a TV that has a VGA port at the back. Most people find that provides the best picture quaity and it also means when you are watching a DVD the 360 will upscale the image (making it look better) when using VGA cable.

bob.stone · 09-04-2007, 16:44

You won't be able to send it a high-def signal as it only accepts one through its HDMI socket, which the 360 (pre forthcoming Elite model) cannot drive. But it's only a 19" 4:3 ratio TV, if you're getting it purely for gaming on the 360 you'd get a much better picture for much less money getting a 19" widescreen LCD monitor with some speakers instead and connecting via VGA. Try Scan, Dabs or Aria. Me, I think I'd rather play on the rear-pro big screen, though.

Bob

mjk79 · 09-04-2007, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgets78

Now I am not quite up to date with the HD stuff, however I was thinking about getting the above Bush HD tv to utilise the HD graphics on the Xbox. Is the above Bush TV okay, can I just plug my xbox in again using the S video? Or do I need something else?

Using the s-video connector will not give you HD since this only carries SD video.

If that TV has a VGA PC input then you could use the Xbox VGA cable to connect it up to get a high definition output, otherwise I think you might be a bit stuck because I don't think there is an HDMI cable kit for the Xbox...

Red Arrow · 09-04-2007, 17:02

Oh I had no idea it was a 19" 4:3 screen.

I suggest you do what bob.stone has said and get a 19" widescreen LCD. This will work fine with your 360 providing HD graphics and in the picture format the developers intended it to be viewed at.

ntlhellworld · 09-04-2007, 17:04

Avoid that Bush model like the plague. £299 for a 19" display is about as poor value as you can get. Ive seen 32" TVs for that price. Infact, Dell do a 22" LCD screen for £270 that has a native resolution of 1680 x 1050, which is nearly 1080P !

-Chris

Gadgets78 · 09-04-2007, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjk79

Using the s-video connector will not give you HD since this only carries SD video.

If that TV has a VGA PC input then you could use the Xbox VGA cable to connect it up to get a high definition output, otherwise I think you might be a bit stuck because I don't think there is an HDMI cable kit for the Xbox...

Thanks for that mate. The reason I was looking at this particular HD TV was its price, £299, 19" HD ready.

Being a newbie to HD what models or specs should I be looking at for hooking it up to my Xbox 360.

Last edited by Gadgets78 : 09-04-2007 at 17:07.

mjk79 · 09-04-2007, 17:20

To get a high definition image out of the Xbox you need to use either VGA or component video; therefore the TV needs to have either one (or both) of these if you want anything more than regular standard definition.

An HDMI socket is still a good idea so you could connect other HD devices at some point to the set. The other specs to look at are the panels native resolution and response time.

Gadgets78 · 09-04-2007, 19:06

Sorry for all the questions I found an hd tv with this spec, how does this one sound-

Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins.

Gadgets78 · 09-04-2007, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjk79

To get a high definition image out of the Xbox you need to use either VGA or component video; therefore the TV needs to have either one (or both) of these if you want anything more than regular standard definition.

An HDMI socket is still a good idea so you could connect other HD devices at some point to the set. The other specs to look at are the panels native resolution and response time.

How do these specs look?

Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins.

Last edited by Gadgets78 : 09-04-2007 at 19:32.

solpadeineking · 10-04-2007, 09:41

I have a 26" lcd with vga and component ,i find i get a better picture with component and its 1080i which looks great with the 360

Gadgets78 · 10-04-2007, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgets78

How do these specs look?

Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins.

Anyone got an opinion on the SPECs above, would that be a good HD TV for my XBOX 360

Gadgets78 · 10-04-2007, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by solpadeineking

I have a 26" lcd with vga and component ,i find i get a better picture with component and its 1080i which looks great with the 360

So the specs i posted in my previous post okay then?

Praxidike · 10-04-2007, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgets78

Sorry for all the questions I found an hd tv with this spec, how does this one sound-

Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins.

You'll have a choice of component or VGA (or HDMI if you get the black 360 when it comes out) for HD outputs from the 360 if you get that TV, so it should be OK.

niall campbell · 10-04-2007, 12:01

the new xbox 360 will have hdmi connections. EVERYTHING is going to have hdmi sockets so I would try and get a tv with 2 hdmi sockets and 1080p if you can stretch to it. That way for blu ray/ hd dvd players your future proof for a while anyway.

Gadgets78 · 10-04-2007, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxidike

You'll have a choice of component or VGA (or HDMI if you get the black 360 when it comes out) for HD outputs from the 360 if you get that TV, so it should be OK.

Thanks mate.

Gadgets78 · 10-04-2007, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall campbell

the new xbox 360 will have hdmi connections. EVERYTHING is going to have hdmi sockets so I would try and get a tv with 2 hdmi sockets and 1080p if you can stretch to it. That way for blu ray/ hd dvd players your future proof for a while anyway.

what is the 1080p, what does that represent?

niall campbell · 12-04-2007, 01:16

to learn about hdmi click on installer training

http://hdmi.com/learningcenter/installer_training.asp

to learn about 1080p

http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2006/04/1080p_hd_questi.html

09-04-2007, 15:57	#1
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Help with HD for Xbox I am thinking about getting the Bush LCD19TVO16HD HD ready LCD ready TV for my Xbox 360. Its has a scart, S Video, and a HDMI port. I currently have my Xbox hooked up to my rear projection TV via its S video using 3 cables Now I am not quite up to date with the HD stuff, however I was thinking about getting the above Bush HD tv to utilise the HD graphics on the Xbox. Is the above Bush TV okay, can I just plug my xbox in again using the S video? Or do I need something else?

09-04-2007, 16:44	#3
bob.stone Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: York, UK Posts: 4,511	You won't be able to send it a high-def signal as it only accepts one through its HDMI socket, which the 360 (pre forthcoming Elite model) cannot drive. But it's only a 19" 4:3 ratio TV, if you're getting it purely for gaming on the 360 you'd get a much better picture for much less money getting a 19" widescreen LCD monitor with some speakers instead and connecting via VGA. Try Scan, Dabs or Aria. Me, I think I'd rather play on the rear-pro big screen, though. Bob Last edited by bob.stone : 09-04-2007 at 16:47.

09-04-2007, 16:10	#2
Red Arrow Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 10,688	I am not 100% sure, but I don't think a s-video cable outputs in HD. Meaning you could connect your 360 to that tv, but it would not be HD quality. Like I said I am not fully sure about that. My advice would be to find a TV that has a VGA port at the back. Most people find that provides the best picture quaity and it also means when you are watching a DVD the 360 will upscale the image (making it look better) when using VGA cable.

09-04-2007, 17:00	#4
mjk79 Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central London Posts: 6,845	Quote: Originally Posted by Gadgets78 Now I am not quite up to date with the HD stuff, however I was thinking about getting the above Bush HD tv to utilise the HD graphics on the Xbox. Is the above Bush TV okay, can I just plug my xbox in again using the S video? Or do I need something else? Using the s-video connector will not give you HD since this only carries SD video. If that TV has a VGA PC input then you could use the Xbox VGA cable to connect it up to get a high definition output, otherwise I think you might be a bit stuck because I don't think there is an HDMI cable kit for the Xbox...

09-04-2007, 17:02	#5
Red Arrow Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 10,688	Oh I had no idea it was a 19" 4:3 screen. I suggest you do what bob.stone has said and get a 19" widescreen LCD. This will work fine with your 360 providing HD graphics and in the picture format the developers intended it to be viewed at.

09-04-2007, 17:04	#6
ntlhellworld Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,649	Avoid that Bush model like the plague. £299 for a 19" display is about as poor value as you can get. Ive seen 32" TVs for that price. Infact, Dell do a 22" LCD screen for £270 that has a native resolution of 1680 x 1050, which is nearly 1080P ! -Chris

09-04-2007, 17:06	#7
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Quote: Originally Posted by mjk79 Using the s-video connector will not give you HD since this only carries SD video. If that TV has a VGA PC input then you could use the Xbox VGA cable to connect it up to get a high definition output, otherwise I think you might be a bit stuck because I don't think there is an HDMI cable kit for the Xbox... Thanks for that mate. The reason I was looking at this particular HD TV was its price, £299, 19" HD ready. Being a newbie to HD what models or specs should I be looking at for hooking it up to my Xbox 360. Last edited by Gadgets78 : 09-04-2007 at 17:07.

09-04-2007, 17:20	#8
mjk79 Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central London Posts: 6,845	To get a high definition image out of the Xbox you need to use either VGA or component video; therefore the TV needs to have either one (or both) of these if you want anything more than regular standard definition. An HDMI socket is still a good idea so you could connect other HD devices at some point to the set. The other specs to look at are the panels native resolution and response time.

09-04-2007, 19:06	#9
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Sorry for all the questions I found an hd tv with this spec, how does this one sound- Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins.

09-04-2007, 19:30	#10
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Quote: Originally Posted by mjk79 To get a high definition image out of the Xbox you need to use either VGA or component video; therefore the TV needs to have either one (or both) of these if you want anything more than regular standard definition. An HDMI socket is still a good idea so you could connect other HD devices at some point to the set. The other specs to look at are the panels native resolution and response time. How do these specs look? Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins. Last edited by Gadgets78 : 09-04-2007 at 19:32.

10-04-2007, 09:41	#11
solpadeineking Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 120	I have a 26" lcd with vga and component ,i find i get a better picture with component and its 1080i which looks great with the 360

10-04-2007, 11:09	#12
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Quote: Originally Posted by Gadgets78 How do these specs look? Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins. Anyone got an opinion on the SPECs above, would that be a good HD TV for my XBOX 360

10-04-2007, 11:11	#13
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Quote: Originally Posted by solpadeineking I have a 26" lcd with vga and component ,i find i get a better picture with component and its 1080i which looks great with the 360 So the specs i posted in my previous post okay then?

10-04-2007, 11:29	#14
Praxidike Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,103	Quote: Originally Posted by Gadgets78 Sorry for all the questions I found an hd tv with this spec, how does this one sound- Contrast ratio 500:1. 1440 x 900 resolution. Nicam stereo sound. Fastext (10 pages). Progressive scan compatible. SCART socket. Composite, component, HDMI, VGA. Screen brightness 450CD/m2. H 15, w 23, d 7ins. You'll have a choice of component or VGA (or HDMI if you get the black 360 when it comes out) for HD outputs from the 360 if you get that TV, so it should be OK.

10-04-2007, 12:01	#15
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	the new xbox 360 will have hdmi connections. EVERYTHING is going to have hdmi sockets so I would try and get a tv with 2 hdmi sockets and 1080p if you can stretch to it. That way for blu ray/ hd dvd players your future proof for a while anyway.

10-04-2007, 12:01	#16
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Quote: Originally Posted by Praxidike You'll have a choice of component or VGA (or HDMI if you get the black 360 when it comes out) for HD outputs from the 360 if you get that TV, so it should be OK. Thanks mate.

10-04-2007, 12:28	#17
Gadgets78 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell the new xbox 360 will have hdmi connections. EVERYTHING is going to have hdmi sockets so I would try and get a tv with 2 hdmi sockets and 1080p if you can stretch to it. That way for blu ray/ hd dvd players your future proof for a while anyway. what is the 1080p, what does that represent?

12-04-2007, 01:16	#18
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	to learn about hdmi click on installer training http://hdmi.com/learningcenter/installer_training.asp to learn about 1080p http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2006/04/1080p_hd_questi.html

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