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Leonard Cohen or Bob Dylan
Now, I know they're actually very different but, nevertheless, they do get compared a lot - they are both great songwriters with, depending on your personal taste, questionable vocal talent !
I'm not an authority on Bob Dylan - I love "Desire" and I think he is a great songwriter but I have to say that, to me, LEONARD IS GOD !!! I love his words, I love his voice, I love all the arrangements and his wonderful accompanying singers. I love the way he sounds so relaxed and laid back, but at the same time, imbues every song with the right emotional feeling. I love everything about his music It is soooooooooo frustrating that almost everyone I know hates him Just wondered what you folks out there thought. |
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They are both amazing singers but I pefer Bob he's got more memorable songs than Leonard but they are two of the best singers of all time
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I love em both but LC edges past BD for me
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LC for me. I always think of Bob Dylan as suicide music. I know LC could be seen as the same but not for me
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Dylan...........never thought much of LC...........
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Both very good songwriters, and both have unorthodox vocal styles. Dylan edges it for me, maybe he's written more classic songs in all.
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Objectively it would have to be dylan because he's had so much influence on music. However, Cohen would just about edge it for me as a personal preference. Mind you, they're both such great songwriters I don't like to choose between them
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Leonard for me, I love the man's lyrics. Love Bob too but Leonard is a legend.
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Heard this once:
Dylan makes you contemplate suicide Cohen forces you to it. |
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I don't know Bob Dylan
, so I cannot compare, but I love Leonard Cohen. He was a bit of an acquired taste for me at first though.
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Don't make me choose... They're both amzing for different reasons. Laughing Len is utterly hilarious in parts; Dylan about as groundbreaking as you can get. Love 'em both.
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Leonard Cohen. My mum and dad used to play him when I was younger and I remember finding a book of his poetry and thinking "wow". I played So long marianne on repeat for a whole afternoon once. I'm sure the people downstairs were not amused!
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Originally Posted by the tiny 1
Leonard Cohen. My mum and dad used to play him when I was younger and I remember finding a book of his poetry and thinking "wow". I played So long marianne on repeat for a whole afternoon once. I'm sure the people downstairs were not amused!
"Everybody knows you've been discreet but there were so many people you just had to meet without your clothes" Absolutely Priceless
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I'm sure they would have been amused if they had heard some of his lyrics :
"Everybody knows you've been discreet but there were so many people you just had to meet without your clothes" Absolutely Priceless ![]() I prefer the line "give me crack and anal sex" Especially when my sister up on reading the lyrics turned to my mum and enquired "Mummy what's crack?" The anal sex thing obviously didn't trouble her... |
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dylan all the way for me
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Originally Posted by twingle
LC for me. I always think of Bob Dylan as suicide music. I know LC could be seen as the same but not for me
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What do you mean by suicide music? You obviously havent heard much Dylan.
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Originally Posted by IvanIV
I don't know Bob Dylan
, so I cannot compare, but I love Leonard Cohen. He was a bit of an acquired taste for me at first though.Mr Tambourine Man All Along The Watchtower I'll be your baby tonight Knocking On Heavens Door This Wheels On Fire Blowing In The Wind Quinn The Eskimo All I Really Wanna Do There are to many to mention. |
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I agree - and that is what Leonard is accused of a lot - I find him very spiritual - and a lot of people don't recognize the wit and humour in his songs.
Both artists rely heavy on very very dark humour. |
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You dont know Dylan, try these by other artists, all written by Dylan
Mr Tambourine Man All Along The Watchtower I'll be your baby tonight Knocking On Heavens Door This Wheels On Fire Blowing In The Wind Quinn The Eskimo All I Really Wanna Do There are to many to mention.
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"The fundamental bitchin that goes down in every kitchen
to determine who will serve and who will eat" Is my favourite LC lyric ever - in fact it may well be just my favourite lyric ever no matter who wrote it. |
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I don't think I can pick out a favourite - they're all too sublime, but the following must be the most poignant and among the saddest :
Once there was a path and a girl with chestnut hair, and you passed the summers picking all of the berries that grew there; there were times she was a woman, oh, there were times she was just a child, and you held her in the shadows where the raspberries grow wild. And you climbed the twilight mountains and you sang about the view, and everywhere that you wandered love seemed to go along with you. That's a hard one to remember, yes it makes you clench your fist. And then the veins stand out like highways, all along your wrist. And yes it's come to this, it's come to this, and wasn't it a long way down, wasn't it a strange way down? From Dress Rehearsal Rag |
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Originally Posted by Keels
"The fundamental bitchin that goes down in every kitchen
to determine who will serve and who will eat" Is my favourite LC lyric ever - in fact it may well be just my favourite lyric ever no matter who wrote it. Ramona, come closer, Shut softly your watery eyes. The pangs of your sadness Shall pass as your senses will rise. The flowers of the city Though breathlike, get deathlike at times. And there's no use in tryin' T' deal with the dyin', Though I cannot explain that in lines. Your cracked country lips, I still wish to kiss, As to be under the strength of your skin. Your magnetic movements Still capture the minutes I'm in. But it grieves my heart, love, To see you tryin' to be a part of A world that just don't exist. It's all just a dream, babe, A vacuum, a scheme, babe, That sucks you into feelin' like this. I can see that your head Has been twisted and fed By worthless foam from the mouth. I can tell you are torn Between stayin' and returnin' On back to the South. You've been fooled into thinking That the finishin' end is at hand. Yet there's no one to beat you, No one t' defeat you, 'Cept the thoughts of yourself feeling bad. I've heard you say many times That you're better 'n no one And no one is better 'n you. If you really believe that, You know you got Nothing to win and nothing to lose. From fixtures and forces and friends, Your sorrow does stem, That hype you and type you, Making you feel That you must be exactly like them. I'd forever talk to you, But soon my words, They would turn into a meaningless ring. For deep in my heart I know there is no help I can bring. Everything passes, Everything changes, Just do what you think you should do. And someday maybe, Who knows, baby, I'll come and be cryin' to you. Copyright © 1964; renewed 1992 Special Rider Music |
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I think my favourite Dylan song is probably Black Diamond Bay - the words are sensational and I love the way it scans and just everything about it - FANTASTIC
![]() As the morning light breaks open the Greek comes down And he asks for a rope and a pen that will write "Pardon monsieur" the desk clerk says Carefully removes his fez "Am I hearing you right ?" And as the yellow fog is lifting The Greek is quickly heading for the second floor She passes him on the spiral staircase Thinking he's the Sovjet Ambassador She starts to speak, but he walks away As the storm clouds rise and the palm branches away On Black Diamond Bay. A soldier sits beneath the fan Doing business with a tiny man who sells him a ring Lightning strikes, the light blow out The desk clerk wakes and begins to shout "Can you see anything ?" Then the Greek appears on the second floor In his bare feet with a rope around his neck While a loser in the gambling room lights up a candle Says "Open up another deck" But the dealer say "Attendez-vous, s'il vous pl it" As the rain beats down and the cranes fly away From Black Diamond Bay. |
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