Actually, I doubt the whole "violent threat" issue isn't a lie, because according to the preview clips, Jadine and Tre are on the same team.
Last edited by DomesticGoddess : 12-04-2007 at 00:11

I am in no way interested to get into a juvenile debate with you as regards telling you what to do. This is a forum for discussion!!! The whole debate so far from ur dim angle has been quoting unspecified sources and not once have u made a coherent argument regarding why u think Jadine should have been fired. One question, why was that task lost???

What ur doing is playing up irrelevant issues like violent threats that u still cant source away from this forum thats largely based on opinions! This is the third time asking, give me your source for that statement regarding what u have apparently read and ill respond. Otherwise, keep ur trap shut if u have nothing relevant to say. U are not being told what to say, just giving advice regarding what not to say!!!

enigma, you are being quite rude, implying oulandy is dum.

Lovely contradiction.

Bad but true.

Conflict occurs regardless... remember the "Badger". In no way did she take things lying down and i remember a few times that she clashed with her PM but that was ok and not disruptive because people respected her and she wasnt made to feel like her opinions were invalid. Jadine had valid opinions and everyone in that boardroom made her feel like she was just arguing for the sake of it!

Why was the sex appeal thing an issue last yr and SAS decided not to really refer to it as much this time. The whole boardroom was staged to make Jadine look bad and it is pretty obvious from the way she had to tone done her intonation that she was being ganged up especially when everytime she tried defending herself, she was accused of being aggresive and disruptive! I dont remember the "Badger" ever being made to feel that way! But then, its a TV show and its always nice to have a villian!

If y'all can read, it specifically states " not interested to get into a juvenile debate as regards telling u what to do"... Always funny how certain parts of a sentence is highlighted to suit ur own agenda. A sentence cannot be broken up, this isnt journalism when u can misquote! Its there for u in blk and white!

The word, "otherwise" also prefaces the bit that says keep ur mouth shut... and in case ur not aware, that is an expression that in no way implies i want to get into a juvenile debate abut the issue. It more or less means, lets leave it at that!

Rude is a subjective term. Ur the one who deduced from my statement that Oulandy is dum"b"

Oh, the irony!

Well, starting spelling "your"properly!

I don't have any 'agenda' neither do I study 'journalism', but I do study communication and groups.

And your point being?!?!?!

If you guys are going to post a response, try responding with an answer and not some witty comeback! Point being, dont make statements that you cannot back up!!!

What is it with the extra exclamation and question marks?

SAS generally hides his sexism better than DT over on the American Apprentice, but not much better Naomi was terrible and deserved to go, but she's also terribly easy on the eye....

You said: Always funny how certain parts of a sentence is highlighted to suit ur own agenda.

I said: I don't have any 'agenda'

You said: A sentence cannot be broken up, this isnt journalism when u can misquote!

I said: neither do I study 'journalism', but I do study communication and groups.

Those were my points.


Which statement did I make that I can't back up?

You said you weren't going to get into a debate about what people should do, then you contradicted yourself and requested that they give you a source or don't post (but in a condescending manner). I simply highlighted this and posted that it was a contradiction, which you then made deductions on and my post simply cleared the wrong deductions up.

No 'intentionally' witty comment there, just plain answers.
Last edited by williams96 : 12-04-2007 at 00:44

Enigma, you should post more often m8. I agree with every single word. I think Jadine's card was marked by the other women very, very early on, when she put herself forward for PM in the first task and Natalie imediately said something like"I don't think you should be team leader. I hope you don't mind me saying this, but you're a bit aggressive." I do feel Jadine is trying to over-compensate too much (lol@ the "threatened" comment) but I don't think the other women's issues with her are all about personality....

Ok... In ur initial "Lovely Contradiction" post, u highted the following "interested to get into a juvenile debate with you" and missed out the following part of the sentence... "as regards telling you what to do."

Now, for someone reading that in bold, my initial post seems like a contradiction in the sense that i seem to be in fact getting into a general juvenile debate whereas, what i stipulated was, i didnt want to argue about telling people what to do because that in itself in this forum is a pretty pointless exercise.

I did highlight - "as regards telling you what to do."

I made this statement generically as u can see, i said, "you guys"... Apologies if u mistook it for being directed at you. I only intended to respond to ur "lovely contradiction" statement...

As for the witty comment, take it as a compliment...

HAHAHA!!! Dude, fess up! I just read it now and u obviously edited it because i can swear that it wasnt highlighted b4! Either ways, i got no beef with ya!

I didn't see Naomi kissing anyone. Just Natalie and Kristina.

I'll take this on board and thanks for pointing it out to me... Much appreciated!

Nope, I'm afraid I did not edit it, certainly wouldn't lie to make someone look foolish.

No worries... My Bad!!! Like i said, albeit that u pointed out a fault, i still appreciate you clarifying...

The claim that Jadine was scared of Tre's violence came from Rory, quoted in the News of the World here. The BBC have denied there was anything to worry about, and as far as I know Jadine hasn't complained about him, so it may just be sour grapes on Rory's part. Typical tabloid journalism.


Except the difference figure-wise was only one body, and the switch didn't affect that. And both teams had won one and lost one.


Part of the problem is that she didn't just make her point and shut up, but kept on about it. When they were arguing in the street, Naomi was right in how she managed her. Told her, yes, you've been heard, and now I need to listen to some other people. Jadine kept right on talking and turned it into an argument about who talked the most.

I think Sir Alan was right not to fire her, but she needs to change to survive. She's lost the kudos she gained from winning as PM in week 1 - when even then she came in for a lot of criticism from Margaret. I'll be surprised if she gets as far as the final.