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Jadine - female Tre?
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Sweet FA
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by Luxxy:
“Both of their management techniques leave a lot to be desired. Shouting, constant swearing and the 'in your face' intimidating behaviour does not make good management material.
A good leader is someone who leads by example, a creative individual, who is enthusiastic, possesses a modicum of humility and is also someone who is able to empower their team in order to maximise on results.

These lot have a long way to go before they are anywhere near that benchmark.”

SAS isn't looking for a leader though, is he?

The clue's in the title - he's looking for an apprentice.
Last edited by Sweet FA : 13-04-2007 at 13:48
SapphicGrrl
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by jo5h:
“yh i work with a girl whos cousin is married to him”

I too am really surprised that Tre is married - not sure what his religion is, but I wonder if it might have been arranged? (Can't think of any other reason for anyone wanting to marry him, lol!) You said she was quiet - I bet she can't get a word in edgeways! Wonders will never cease......

It's a funny thing about how people come over in these things - I knew a bloke in a previous series who was a complete a*sehole in real life, but came over in the programme as quite reasonable?!
Reality Sucks
13-04-2007
Jadine may be enthusiastic, but how good she is at seeing the full picture I'm not sure. She seems to be obsessed with branding and image to the point of ludicrousness. "Eclipse - clips geddit?" and I'm not sure she came up with anything useful on the girls task. She's certainly loud and opinionated, but does she come up with good suggestions? I quite like her because she's feisty, but I'm not yet sure if she's got what it takes.
BugPowderDust
13-04-2007
Trouble with a Jadine or a Tre is that they tend to spoil the mood/ teamwork in a time with moaning/ bitching, and sway the weaker team-members.

Having said that, I think Tre is better as a leader than a follower...
natsuki*head
13-04-2007
The Chinmeister must stay for awhile longer, btw does anyone else think hes on a pound an eff word from someone? He must have a few grand already.
The Swampster
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by Reality Sucks:
“Jadine may be enthusiastic, but how good she is at seeing the full picture I'm not sure. She seems to be obsessed with branding and image to the point of ludicrousness. "Eclipse - clips geddit?" and I'm not sure she came up with anything useful on the girls task. She's certainly loud and opinionated, but does she come up with good suggestions? I quite like her because she's feisty, but I'm not yet sure if she's got what it takes.”

To be fair, none of them did. £65.04 profit between the lot of them for a whole day's work that included selling themselves in pubs for a pound a go. Yet project leader Naomi's still in the running - hmmm, wonder why?
oulandy
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by natsuki*head:
“The Chinmeister must stay for awhile longer, btw does anyone else think hes on a pound an eff word from someone? He must have a few grand already.”

What is it about his chin and why is he a 'meister'? (well, apart from master of arrogance and obnoxiousness, I mean. ) Just curious.
Luxxy
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by Sweet FA:
“SAS isn't looking for a leader though, is he?

The clue's in the title - he's looking for an apprentice.”


Granted, but having leadership qualities will certainly be an advantage.
oulandy
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by Sweet FA:
“SAS isn't looking for a leader though, is he?

The clue's in the title - he's looking for an apprentice.”

He isn't looking for an apprentice in the sense of a 17-year- old learning a mechanical trade, operating a machine or starting out as the office junior making tea, sorting post and doing photocopying.

He is looking for someone who is entrepreneurial and who will be given responsiblilty and will certainly require the ability to take charge of something, exercise leadership in the role and get things done by working with and through other people. So yes, he is looking for someone with leadership, entrepreneurial and management ability.
The Prumeister
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by SapphicGrrl:
“I too am really surprised that Tre is married - not sure what his religion is, but I wonder if it might have been arranged? (Can't think of any other reason for anyone wanting to marry him, lol!) You said she was quiet - I bet she can't get a word in edgeways! Wonders will never cease......

It's a funny thing about how people come over in these things - I knew a bloke in a previous series who was a complete a*sehole in real life, but came over in the programme as quite reasonable?! ”



LOL
petal21
13-04-2007
I don't think jadine is a female tre at all i think she's wicked. She's a brilliant leader and she only talks over people when they try to shut her down when without even hearing what she has o say. I personally think she's being picked on abit just for the way she talks, she has a huge set of lungs on her and isn't the most soft spoken person in the world and talks really fast which is proberly really annoying when she's in your face but most of the time she makes very valid points.
The girls team have just found their series scapegoat and are going to town on it! So easy to gang up and blame someone who is outspoken.
fruityxcore
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by listerofsmeg:
“You didn't see the first episode?
Not bitching perhaps but total inability to listen to anyone else.

I would HATE her as my boss!”

I'm not saying I'd like to work for her either and she did annoy me during the first task with her heavy-handed approach but at least she seems motivated and strong unlike Naomi who just looked weak and incompetent.
oulandy
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by petal21:
“I don't think jadine is a female tre at all i think she's wicked. She's a brilliant leader and she only talks over people when they try to shut her down when without even hearing what she has o say. I personally think she's being picked on abit just for the way she talks, she has a huge set of lungs on her and isn't the most soft spoken person in the world and talks really fast which is proberly really annoying when she's in your face but most of the time she makes very valid points.
The girls team have just found their series scapegoat and are going to town on it! So easy to gang up and blame someone who is outspoken.”

Was that the brilliant leader who bought the wrong type of coffee in the first place and ordered Tre away from a successful selling pitch, or am I dreaming?

Why do you say in one breath that the team is scapegoating her and in the next that she is probably really annoying? Wouldn't they find her annoying then?

And why do Margaret and Nick describe her as a nightmare and disruptive etc?
Wythrol
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“Was that the brilliant leader who bought the wrong type of coffee in the first place and ordered Tre away from a successful selling pitch, or am I dreaming?

Why do you say in one breath that the team is scapegoating her and in the next that she is probably really annoying? Wouldn't they find her annoying then?

And why do Margaret and Nick describe her as a nightmare and disruptive etc?”

They said that of Tre as well.

Tre probably has more desire to be there, he probably has better ideas than most, but his arrogance will scupper him, probably around episode 8/9.

Jadine will outlast Tre, by 1 episode.
oulandy
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by Wythrol:
“They said that of Tre as well.

Tre probably has more desire to be there, he probably has better ideas than most, but his arrogance will scupper him, probably around episode 8/9.

Jadine will outlast Tre, by 1 episode.”

So far, it appears he may have more business sense and better ideas than some of the others, including Jadine, much though I hate to say it of him, but there is no way he could work for Sugar - or anyone, really.

It's a bit early for me to hazard a guess as to how long he or Jadine may last. We haven't seen enough yet of some of the others to judge what the standard of competition is like. Going solely on their own personalities and behaviour, though, I think neither will make it to the end.
Wythrol
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“So far, it appears he may have more business sense and better ideas than some of the others, including Jadine, much though I hate to say it of him, but there is no way he could work for Sugar - or anyone, really.

It's a bit early for me to hazard a guess as to how long he or Jadine may last. We haven't seen enough yet of some of the others to judge what the standard of competition is like. Going solely on their own personalities and behaviour, though, I think neither will make it to the end.”

oh good grief neither will make the end. Both are still their because they make TV.
brangdon
14-04-2007
Originally Posted by petal21:
“She's a brilliant leader and she only talks over people when they try to shut her down when without even hearing what she has o say.”

Hardly. In the argument with Naomi this week, she'd already had her say. Naomi repeated it back to her and Jadine could only confirm that she thought what she said was important. It looked like Jadine was just annoyed that Naomi was listening to someone else instead of her.

I reckon Jadine is a lot worse than Tre. He talks a lot of sense, and only gets angry when the people around him are being incompetent. Almost every decision or judgement Jadine has made has been wrong: pulling the van off a good pitch, splitting up a winning team out of personal ego, emphasising "the experience" over the coffee; she won ep1 mainly by luck. She wasn't much better in ep3. She complains a lot, but didn't have any ideas herself, just attacked Natalie who did have ideas.
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