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Anyone else appalled by the kissograms?
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The Swampster
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Undeniably tacky, but it was at least done with a sense of humour. It was hardly taking them off down a back alley and stricking their tongues down old mens throats. ”

No indeed. To be fair, the old men were only feeling their bums in very public places.
Last edited by The Swampster : 12-04-2007 at 13:40
jdh2096
12-04-2007
i wonder what natalie's husband thought of the whole debacle...
Muttley76
12-04-2007
It's a bit sad that they would lower themselves to it, there were many other things they could have done! I was pleased they lost last night as they deserved to for choosing to reinforce the role of women as sex objects once again
oulandy
12-04-2007
It's sad that that's how young women think and see themselves, but not surprising when you look at the wider culture which is saturated with women as sex objects.
Innocent_fairy
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by Hollyoaker:
“i wonder what natalie's husband thought of the whole debacle...”

That's what I was wondering. The whole time it was being shown I kept thinking
"She's married, I'm sure she's married. It said she's married!"
galena
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by Nurse Betty:
“Naomi was against it as you say to begin with.

Without meaning to be cruel, it's blatantly obvious why Gerri and Jadine would have been against the idea and it had nothing to do with morals, etc . How can I put it nicely? They weren't likely to be the biggest earners, were they?

However, by that stage, I would have done anything Jadine was opposed to just to nark her.

I couldn't see what was wrong with it. Comparing it to prostitution is far too strong even if the girls had been dealing out full blown snogs (and if I was appalled at anything it was Sir A's remark) but they weren't, they were giving pecks on cheeks and hugs. What has happened to so many people's sense of humour in this country?

The right person went. I was surprised not to see Gerri go the first week. She made the same mistake again as in the when she also picked the wrong location but that time had managed to talk her way out of it. I wasn't surprised she didn't get a third chance.”

Are you kidding? Jadine is one of the best looking girls - much more attractive than wishy washy Naomi IMO ...

For thousands of years virtually the only way women could make money was the 'oldest profession' ie selling their bodies so it's not surprising that many feminists like myself are appalled to see so many 'post feminist' women think it's ok to trade in on their sexuality to get ahead.
sallygill1961
12-04-2007
i cant believe gerri turned down an actual job supposedly working for MI5 to do this
platelet
12-04-2007
Actually I'm beginning to think the whole show is scripted, and it's a reused script.

The selling kisses and AMS's reaction where lifted directly from the Apprentice USA season 6.
oulandy
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by platelet:
“Actually I'm beginning to think the whole show is scripted, and it's a reused script.

The selling kisses and AMS's reaction where lifted directly from the Apprentice USA season 6.”

There was a similar sort of issue on an earlier series of the American Apprentice where the women went out in the street wearing short skirts and showing their underwear or something like that - I can't remember exactly. Trump - and Carolyn especially - were scathing and furious.
Forever Awkward
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by Nurse Betty:
“Without meaning to be cruel, it's blatantly obvious why Gerri and Jadine would have been against the idea and it had nothing to do with morals, etc . How can I put it nicely? They weren't likely to be the biggest earners, were they?”

Terribly cruel but true
Forever Awkward
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by galena:
“Are you kidding? Jadine is one of the best looking girls - much more attractive than wishy washy Naomi IMO ...”

All those of you saying you think Jadine is attractive, please tell me you're joking or please visit an optician asap. I don't really want to say what she looks like to me. Something rather cute but certainly not pretty.

As for being more attractive than Naomi, I won't even treat that comment as serious.
Last edited by Forever Awkward : 12-04-2007 at 19:53
natsuki*head
12-04-2007
Nothing wrong with my eyesight, i just happen to have a different opinion to you thats all.
muffin the mule
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by Forever Awkward:
“All those of you saying you think Jadine is attractive, please tell me you're joking ............ serious.”

She is attractive...until she speaks (or shouts more like)
Bondvillain2k
12-04-2007
It wasn't a particularly proud moment to be a girly. What's so, so disappointing is that they're obviously not a complete bunch of idiots, but the best idea they could come up with was, essentially, selling themselves to blokes. It's like they didn't even try to have a good think before they realised that hey, they have boobies, and hey, blokes like boobies.
Socha
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by spendleb:
“From what I saw they weren't exactly 'kissing' the blokes anyway, I don't see what the problem is at all.”

That's what I thought!

When the suggested the kiss-o-gram I imagined lots of tongue and slobbering, but it was a peck on the cheek.

Come on...
Gorbag
12-04-2007
I think Jadine is attractive - and I dont wear glasses or need them, if you dont realize that people dont all fancy the same types it shows your lack of worldly experience.

At least shes got a bit of fire to her.
Dollystanford
12-04-2007
it was a massive problem for me - to say 'I want to make money any way I can' (can't remember who that was)

well why not go the whole hog and offer full sex if you'd really do anything

it's just prostitution, whatever way you slice it and I wasn't impressed
washboard
12-04-2007
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“it was a massive problem for me - to say 'I want to make money any way I can' (can't remember who that was)

well why not go the whole hog and offer full sex if you'd really do anything

it's just prostitution, whatever way you slice it and I wasn't impressed”

I agree. If one of then had said in the morning "Let's go to the family planning clinic, get loads of condoms free; print off some cards for phone boxes; rent a couple of cheap rooms (or use those fancy people carriers), and sell our services" then you can imagine the reaction. Even though it has been a moneyspinner for centuries.

"prostitution, whatever way you slice it".
Dante Ameche
12-04-2007
It's not the the kiss-o-gram idea that raised my eye brow, it's the fact that these were deemed to be the best business brains out of thousands that applied for the show.


How bad were the ones that got away?
Socha
12-04-2007
Is kissing someone (on the cheek mostly) an "act or practice of engaging in sexual activity for money or its equivalent" as is a defnition of prostitution?

Are people that deliver kiss-o-grams prostitutes?

But I agree Dante Ameche, is that really all they could come up with?
Dante Ameche
12-04-2007
I meant how bad were the business brains that got sent away that didn't make the show.


I wonder if they sit at home watching and think themselves very fortunate that they didn't get on the show?
Socha
12-04-2007
Or maybe it really is the best business one can come up with?
DavetheScot
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by Forever Awkward:
“All those of you saying you think Jadine is attractive, please tell me you're joking or please visit an optician asap. I don't really want to say what she looks like to me. Something rather cute but certainly not pretty.

As for being more attractive than Naomi, I won't even treat that comment as serious.”

Nope, not joking.

I can see Jadine's not pretty in the way that Ghazal is pretty, but there's just something about her that really attracts me.

Each to their own.
fruityxcore
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“It's not the the kiss-o-gram idea that raised my eye brow, it's the fact that these were deemed to be the best business brains out of thousands that applied for the show.


How bad were the ones that got away? ”

Exactly, these were all supposed to be highly intelligent businesswomen with accomplishments, and degrees and the like, and yet the only idea they could come up with was essentially selling themselves...
galena
13-04-2007
Originally Posted by washboard:
“I agree. If one of then had said in the morning "Let's go to the family planning clinic, get loads of condoms free; print off some cards for phone boxes; rent a couple of cheap rooms (or use those fancy people carriers), and sell our services" then you can imagine the reaction. Even though it has been a moneyspinner for centuries.

"prostitution, whatever way you slice it".”

I've always heard that most prostitutes won't let their clients kiss them whether because of hygiene reasons or because it's too intimate. The way I look at the kissing thing it was a cross between selling themselves as sex objects and begging - please give me money because I'm a pretty girl and I really need it to win the task. Hardly what you would expect from a so-called business woman!
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