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the Apprentice is ONLY a game show, NOT a Job Interview
Chubby Checker
18-04-2007
If I was a Sir Sugar kinda guy, i would think this show is a joke, deffo entertainment, NOTHING to do with buis ness
Ethereal
18-04-2007
But it is a job interview, just a long winded one. He hires someone at the end for a job.
scouse_j
18-04-2007
Thing is, he is worth £800,000,000 , he knows what he is doing, and as it might just be a tv show to him its more money, i doubt he's doing it hoping to get a great business person from it, he will be looking at the money side to him, while maybe getting someone worth hiring,
pammi_i
18-04-2007
I think I made the same point a couple of weeks ago. The "job" is a year or so of the "prize" and is not a real job although Sir A will probably manage to make some money out of it as is his way.

It's one of the best, if not THE best, reality games shows on TV though, don't you think?
Chubby Checker
18-04-2007
yep good show, bur nothing to do with "job interview"
minimalistmatt
18-04-2007
aww, you've spoilt it for me now. i thought it was a business documentary
PorkSausage
18-04-2007
Originally Posted by minimalistmatt:
“aww, you've spoilt it for me now. i thought it was a business documentary ”

Yepp - my illusions shattered also.

In fact, I am almost surprised that Sir Alan allows the cameras in.
SweetSyrup
18-04-2007
It's a bit of both - playing predominantly more as an 'entertainment' show this time around, with the larger than life characters making it through. Would you honestly sack Gerri over Jadine following last weeks boardroom ? (more rhetorical question). The actual job itself seems less and less important than the journey there - the first apprentice left after 2 years and Michelle left after only a few months. Sort of undermines the entire premise...
oulandy
19-04-2007
In American Apprentice, I get the feeling they go on to a proper job and a proper career with Trump's business. Here, I get the feeling it is not real; it is not business; it is both PR and game show.

Maybe I'm wrong: I don't know how the Trump apprentices have done; I would though, hazard a guess he still has some of them with him.
andrewp
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“In American Apprentice, I get the feeling they go on to a proper job and a proper career with Trump's business. Here, I get the feeling it is not real; it is not business; it is both PR and game show.

Maybe I'm wrong: I don't know how the Trump apprentices have done; I would though, hazard a guess he still has some of them with him.”

I think only the English bloke is still with him, maybe Randall too but I'm not too sure about that either. The rest have all left.
Assa2
19-04-2007
As a current employee, either in Trump's or SAS' businesses, how would you feel if some spotty upstart who had won a reality TV show and was now earning double or tripple your salary suddenly came along and started working beside or even above you? I suspect the truth is the winners get some sort of 'shadowing' role where they follow a senior manager or director around or perhaps conduct a review of a part of the business rather than actually get involved in the day-to-day running. I'd be very surprised if SAS or Trunp actually pay their salaries, unless they also get some sort of cut of the money the program makes in return.
oulandy
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by andrewp:
“I think only the English bloke is still with him, maybe Randall too but I'm not too sure about that either. The rest have all left.”

Oh, thanks andrew, that's interesting. He's not hanging on to them either, then.
Blokee
19-04-2007
Bill (Series 1) is still overseeing Chicago Trump Tower last I heard.

Having done some research - I see that he's now left Trump...oops.
Last edited by Blokee : 19-04-2007 at 15:17
andrewp
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by Blokee:
“Bill (Series 1) is still overseeing Chicago Trump Tower last I heard.

Having done some research - I see that he's now left Trump...oops.”

Yeah he only just left Trump, majority of them are probably media whores now so do it for the exposure.
andrewp
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by Assa2:
“As a current employee, either in Trump's or SAS' businesses, how would you feel if some spotty upstart who had won a reality TV show and was now earning double or tripple your salary suddenly came along and started working beside or even above you? I suspect the truth is the winners get some sort of 'shadowing' role where they follow a senior manager or director around or perhaps conduct a review of a part of the business rather than actually get involved in the day-to-day running. I'd be very surprised if SAS or Trunp actually pay their salaries, unless they also get some sort of cut of the money the program makes in return.”

Trump is executive producer so will certainly be earning some of the money the show makes (made possibly).
oulandy
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by andrewp:
“Yeah he only just left Trump, majority of them are probably media whores now so do it for the exposure.”

So he's been there for about five years? Not bad, I suppose.
ollie3
19-04-2007
I think Sugar is playing with the programme, he is a clever man and knows exactly what he is doing. Whether this is reality T.V or a job interview Sugar is making money hand over fist and that is the point.
I am sure that if the person he hires at the end is really worth it and is good then they would stay for more than a year, you don't let someone who is good for the company go, just because they won from a T.V show, it's not good for the money figures.
andrewp
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“So he's been there for about five years? Not bad, I suppose.”

No, his season didn't air five years ago.
oulandy
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by andrewp:
“No, his season didn't air five years ago.”

Oh, I thought someone said he was Series 1 and they are now on Series 6.
trixiehobbit
19-04-2007
Its a game to him that brings him and his wares lots of publicity.
minimalistmatt
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“So he's been there for about five years? Not bad, I suppose.”

I suppose he'll only leave when his hair quits on him
oulandy
19-04-2007
Originally Posted by minimalistmatt:
“I suppose he'll only leave when his hair quits on him ”

I think Trump is funny the way he makes comments about his bizarre hair.
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