Average for me so far. Dead glossy but the first slight mis-step this season, less than the sum of its parts. Don't know what they were aiming for with the humanised Sec but he just comes over as a bit daft/Special Needs Dalek.
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Doctor Who Series 3 Episode 4 - 'Daleks in Manhattan' - 6.35pm - 21/4/2007
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I thought the episode was really good. Not my favourite so far, but not the worst EVER!
Everyone is picking up on things that don't add up with the other seasons. Does it really matter? Just sit back and enjoy the usually fantastic programme.
BTW while i'm here, there was a episode in season 2 (not sure which one) the doctor said to Rose "i had a son once". Does anyone know ANYTHING about this because it has been driving me crazy!
Maybe it has something to do with the face of boe's secret "you are not alone"?
Everyone is picking up on things that don't add up with the other seasons. Does it really matter? Just sit back and enjoy the usually fantastic programme.
BTW while i'm here, there was a episode in season 2 (not sure which one) the doctor said to Rose "i had a son once". Does anyone know ANYTHING about this because it has been driving me crazy!
Maybe it has something to do with the face of boe's secret "you are not alone"?
Originally Posted by Littlemissmolz:
“there was a episode in season 2 (not sure which one) the doctor said to Rose "i had a son once". Does anyone know ANYTHING about this because it has been driving me crazy!”
“there was a episode in season 2 (not sure which one) the doctor said to Rose "i had a son once". Does anyone know ANYTHING about this because it has been driving me crazy!
”
It was in 'Fear Her' and the line was "I was a dad once...", which ties in with him being a grandfather from way back in 1963. However he did tell Martha in 'Gridlock' that all his family are dead now.
Originally Posted by Joe Ortron:
“Average for me so far. Dead glossy but the first slight mis-step this season, less than the sum of its parts. Don't know what they were aiming for with the humanised Sec but he just comes over as a bit daft/Special Needs Dalek.”
“Average for me so far. Dead glossy but the first slight mis-step this season, less than the sum of its parts. Don't know what they were aiming for with the humanised Sec but he just comes over as a bit daft/Special Needs Dalek.”
Exactly my feelings on it too ... loving the special need Dalek tag LOL
Originally Posted by Mansun:
“It was in 'Fear Her' and the line was "I was a dad once...", which ties in with him being a grandfather from way back in 1963. However he did tell Martha in 'Gridlock' that all his family are dead now.”
“It was in 'Fear Her' and the line was "I was a dad once...", which ties in with him being a grandfather from way back in 1963. However he did tell Martha in 'Gridlock' that all his family are dead now.”
Thank you!
It really has been driving me nuts!
Originally Posted by Mansun:
“However he did tell Martha in 'Gridlock' that all his family are dead now.”
“However he did tell Martha in 'Gridlock' that all his family are dead now.”
But will he tell her that he was the one who did the killing?
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“I think that can be dangerous to teach them that they can rely on something they see in a TV programme. Well, not really dangerous...”
“I think that can be dangerous to teach them that they can rely on something they see in a TV programme. Well, not really dangerous...”
Sometimes it is the best way for children to learn. However taking your point on board it does of course depend how it is done. For example if children just think Shakespere was 'the bloke on Doctor Who' then it doesn't work. However if by being featured on the programme it becomes 'cool' to learn about Shakespere then the programme has done it's job. Planet formation was discussed in the Christmas episode and may encourage children to learn more. I hope this is the case anyway.
Originally Posted by ethel_wombat:
“But will he tell her that he was the one who did the killing?”
“But will he tell her that he was the one who did the killing?”
I hope so as perhaps it will make her love him less.
Originally Posted by Tegan Jovanka:
“Sometimes it is the best way for children to learn. However taking your point on board it does of course depend how it is done. For example if children just think Shakespere was 'the bloke on Doctor Who' then it doesn't work. However if by being featured on the programme it becomes 'cool' to learn about Shakespere then the programme has done it's job. Planet formation was discussed in the Christmas episode and may encourage children to learn more. I hope this is the case anyway.”
“Sometimes it is the best way for children to learn. However taking your point on board it does of course depend how it is done. For example if children just think Shakespere was 'the bloke on Doctor Who' then it doesn't work. However if by being featured on the programme it becomes 'cool' to learn about Shakespere then the programme has done it's job. Planet formation was discussed in the Christmas episode and may encourage children to learn more. I hope this is the case anyway.”
I remember "doing" Macbeth when at school. There was a showing of the Orson Wells film version on TV and in a subsequent test, despite being told to disregard the film (it's somewhat different) a number of people answered the test basing their answers on the film version.
I wonder how many children now think that Shakespeare wrote Macbeth because of an alien attack
Last edited by ethel_wombat : 25-04-2007 at 23:06
Originally Posted by ethel_wombat:
“I remember "doing" Macbeth when at school. There was a showing of the Orson Wells film version on TV and in a subsequent test, despite being told to disregard the film (it's somewhat different) a number of people answered the test basing their answers on the film version.
I wonder how many children now think that Shakespeare wrote Macbeth because of an alien attack”
“I remember "doing" Macbeth when at school. There was a showing of the Orson Wells film version on TV and in a subsequent test, despite being told to disregard the film (it's somewhat different) a number of people answered the test basing their answers on the film version.
I wonder how many children now think that Shakespeare wrote Macbeth because of an alien attack”
Good point but the difference is that (a vain hope I know) children will be encouraged to learn/watch Shakespere because of the programme. The film you mention is an interpretation of his works and should not be watched by older children studing his works. Also do we know enough about Shakespere history to know that an alien attack didn't happen.
Just saw this episode again on BBC3, and it was even better second time round. Classic Doctor Who, and as good or better than 95% of the original series.
Series 3 has started well, with four strong episodes - although I haven't yet voted 'Excellent' as I'm keeping that for the episode that blows me away...
Series 3 has started well, with four strong episodes - although I haven't yet voted 'Excellent' as I'm keeping that for the episode that blows me away...
Originally Posted by Tegan Jovanka:
“Planet formation was discussed in the Christmas episode and may encourage children to learn more. I hope this is the case anyway.”
“Planet formation was discussed in the Christmas episode and may encourage children to learn more. I hope this is the case anyway.”
People on here was saying the Christmas special was unsuitable for children because of that. It was destroying religion or some other nonsense like that.
There's always something. You could probably read the thread on "The Doctor Dances" and there'd be some people complaining about it...
Originally Posted by ethel_wombat:
“But will he tell her that he was the one who did the killing?”
“But will he tell her that he was the one who did the killing?”
I, like many others, would love to hear more on the events of the time war. Knowing the kind of person the doctor has been created as (especially his refusal to sacrifice earth to kill the daleks in season one/twenty-seven) I think the story will unfold to describe a doctor pressed into the matter against his better judgment. I think it would add to his character even more if it were his own son telling him to go ahead; there's no other choice. Personally I like the mystery of the doctor's enigma ("Just the Doctor"); but I also like the humanity he wrestles with ("Do I have the right?").
Originally Posted by Texas Who Fan:
“I, like many others, would love to hear more on the events of the time war. Knowing the kind of person the doctor has been created as (especially his refusal to sacrifice earth to kill the daleks in season one/twenty-seven) I think the story will unfold to describe a doctor pressed into the matter against his better judgment. I think it would add to his character even more if it were his own son telling him to go ahead; there's no other choice. Personally I like the mystery of the doctor's enigma ("Just the Doctor"); but I also like the humanity he wrestles with ("Do I have the right?").”
“I, like many others, would love to hear more on the events of the time war. Knowing the kind of person the doctor has been created as (especially his refusal to sacrifice earth to kill the daleks in season one/twenty-seven) I think the story will unfold to describe a doctor pressed into the matter against his better judgment. I think it would add to his character even more if it were his own son telling him to go ahead; there's no other choice. Personally I like the mystery of the doctor's enigma ("Just the Doctor"); but I also like the humanity he wrestles with ("Do I have the right?").”
are you really from texas? lol
i like the 'do i have the right' feeling as well
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