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Doctor Who threads --- please label as such
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Trollheart
23-04-2007
Right, it's obvious you DW fans are not going to listen to the rest of us and stop posting more and more threads. But will you please do us the courtesy of labelling your threads? It doesn't take much to put "Doctor Who" or even "DW" in front of your subject --- I know some people have done so, and thank you, but for the rest of you, it's really annoying to read something like "I have an idea about the series finale" and then find it's yet another Doctor Who thread!
I do like DW, but there are FAR too many threads here, spread all over the forum like hastily-multiplying rabbits, and they're taking over. I'd rather not waste time looking at something I don't want to, and I think I can speak for a lot of other members here too. If I post a thread I always mention the show if it's not already got a thread.
So please, no more uncategorised Dr Who threads. You'll be doing us all a favour, and avoid bad feeling and backlash.
Thanks in advance.
TH
!!11oneone
23-04-2007
I think that should go for ANY show-specific thread, personally...
Trollheart
23-04-2007
Definitely. All the shows I post in are labelled as such (24 UK pace/Heroes UK etc). I think it's irreponsible and a little arrogant and uncaring to name a post "out-of-the-blue", like for instance "I have a theory about Martha" or (to be fair to Dr Who fans) "Fayed's masterplan" (though this has never happened).
A good rule of thumb is a) try to post in the relevant thread if it's already there. Yes, your post may get a bit subsumed, but it will be more visible to people who are actually interested in that show, and it's only polite and
b) If there is no specific thread you can post in, and you have to create one, label it with the show's name.
Thanks to all for future consideration.
TH
Nuallain
23-04-2007
Now, I'm not saying your wrong about the 'season finale' thing, buuuutt it doesn't really make sense to suggest that threads like "Fayed's Masterplan" are in any way confusing.

If you don't watch 24 then you won't know who he is, and the fact that you don't know who he is will tip you off that it's a show you don't care about. If you *do* know who he is, then you'll know it's a 24 thread.


And, really, what's the point of these "This is the rules I *would* have if I *was* the Forum Administrator (but I'm not)" threads that pop up from time to time. Why not just mail your suggestion to the *actual* Forum Administrator and see what they think of making it a rule?
Mansun
24-04-2007
I agree about thread titles like the 'season finale' one, which is a bit unspecific, but they're a rarity rather than the norm. The vast majority of Dr. Who related threads do have Dr. Who in the title somewhere. Even the ones that don't usually have something like 'Daleks' or 'David Tennant' in the title so it's not hard to work out what they're about.
Trollheart
25-04-2007
There are actually two points here, both contentious. One is that there are in fact way too many separate Doctor Who threads. They're like locusts, spreading out and covering the face of the forums. What's wrong with either sticking to one thread (a la 24, Prison Break etc) or else having a specific section for all Dr Who threads? I do like DW but I'm getting tired of the amount of random threads people are creating about this show. Definitely smacks of obsession...
The second point, and the original one I made, is that ALL threads (not just DW, but I picked on them because they are the biggest offenders) should clearly mention the show they're referring to.
Case in point: a thread labelled "The Others --- how many are there?" or something similar. I checked it, thinking this was a new show perhaps, called the Others. Turns out it's a Lost thread! Why oh why couldnt the poster make that clear in the title? I don't watch Lost, I'm not interested in Lost, and I certainly (and I can't be alone) don't want to waste my time trawling through a thread until I eventually find out it's of no interest to me!
I think it's just common courtesy, but that's in short supply these days, so I have no doubt this thread will be largely ignored.
And as for asking the admins, that seems to be a waste of time, as it took several angry posts about this very subject before we got a grumpy, half-interested reply from DS staff, which rather than promise to take the matter under consideration in any real way, muttered about posts like this taking up space! Thanks a lot, DS! You ignore requests, then moan when people try to bring problems to your attention via the forum! Isn't that what the word forum means --- public discussion???
Colin_F
25-04-2007
Originally Posted by Trollheart:
“And as for asking the admins, that seems to be a waste of time, as it took several angry posts about this very subject before we got a grumpy, half-interested reply from DS staff, which rather than promise to take the matter under consideration in any real way, muttered about posts like this taking up space! Thanks a lot, DS! You ignore requests, then moan when people try to bring problems to your attention via the forum! Isn't that what the word forum means --- public discussion???”

Well - that'll be this thread locked then
You forgot the number 1 rule

Thou shalt not critisise the moderators.

Same thing happened when there was actually a thread ASKING for a seperate Dr Who subforum.

Basically "We'll think about it" - THREAD LOCKED
Last edited by Colin_F : 25-04-2007 at 13:56
Chrismcfall
25-04-2007
Yeah, but that'd look out of place with the other boards. Unless, its inside Cult. Kinda like how chatter is inside GD.
asto47
25-04-2007
Calm down people - it's only an internet messageboard. Nine times out of ten, the main and same posts/threads stay on the front page and the ones that don't are dated.

Furthermore, it is pretty easy to tell which thread relates to which programme. And if you really can't think of it as the lucky dip - all the fun of the fair.

Seriously, life is too short to worry about things like this!!!
Red Arrow
25-04-2007
Originally Posted by Nuallain:
“Why not just mail your suggestion to the *actual* Forum Administrator and see what they think of making it a rule?”

Because they will not listen. We have already asked for a Doctor Who sub-forum in the Cult section and have been told its something which they would consider, which really means nothing will happen. I mean what is there to consider? Takes two minutes to create a new sub-forum and then the Dr Who fans can make as many threads as they want and the rest of us will be happy.

Right now 15 out of the 30 odd threads in this forum on the first page are Doctor Who related, they really should have their own forum by now.
Last edited by Red Arrow : 25-04-2007 at 16:46
jacquiann
25-04-2007
"Joseph" & "Grease" have just got their own forums over in Reality TV, so maybe there is hope for us DW fans .
There are many more threads in here on DW (it's nearly 50% of the first page!) than there were over there. It's much more confusing & repetitive here too, which I must admit has put me off bothering.
I do agree with putting the title of the show/topic when posting a new thread though. I don't like to start new threads personally - but if I do I shall remember.
Last edited by jacquiann : 25-04-2007 at 16:53
Trollheart
25-04-2007
It IS driving me crazy! It's making me hate Doctor Who! I'm getting increasingly tired of watching the threads I'm following (24, Prison Break, Heroes etc) be pushed further and further back, collapsing against an unremitting tide of increasingly pointless and inane Doctor Who threads.
Why are the posters of the mind that their threads are so important that they must get top billing, that they can't just add them onto a current thread? Why is every theory, idea, opinion and suggestion to do with DW being aired on its own little platform? Don't people think that if 24 posters, for instance, started separate Jack Bauer, Chloe, Fayed threads as well as the likes of "How do you think 24 will end" or "What do you think the president is up to", or even "top 5 terrorists in 24", that this would get those not interested in 24 annoyed?
But most posters do not do this. They stay within their one or two threads (usually divided into US/UK pace) and discuss their favourite programmes within those constraints. It doesn't take anything away from the thread, the show or the posters' enjoyment or interaction.
So why can't those who follow Doctor Who do the same? Where is the consideration?
Someone mentioned that the current ratio in the forum is about 50% DW, 50% all other shows. I'm willing to bet that will increase, and I wouldn't be surprised if, while I've been writing this, two or three more threads related to DW (labelled as such or not: probably not) have appeared.
Yes, it's only a forum, and no, it's not ruining my life, but it is annoying me, and I can see from replies here that I'm not the only one. What is IS doing is making me think twice about visiting the forums again, abandoning them altogether, which I dont want to do.
I simply don't see the problem. Are all people who follow Doctor Who insensitive, arrogant and inconsiderate? Surely not! Why then, can't you think about the others who post in and read this forum, and who are not necessarily interested in your theories on daleks, cybermen and whether Chris Eccleston was a better Doctor than David Tennant?
*Eileen*
25-04-2007
Originally Posted by asto47:
“Calm down people - it's only an internet messageboard. Nine times out of ten, the main and same posts/threads stay on the front page and the ones that don't are dated.

Furthermore, it is pretty easy to tell which thread relates to which programme. And if you really can't think of it as the lucky dip - all the fun of the fair.

Seriously, life is too short to worry about things like this!!!”

I agree. I really can't understand why people get so het up about stuff like this - so you clicked on a thread and hadn't realised what it was, is this really such an issue!? It must have taken you all of a few seconds!
Trollheart
25-04-2007
I don't know why people (some people) refuse to see what I'm getting upset about!
It's not just a simple question of clicking on a thread and seeing what it's about: it's the irresponsible proliferation of DW threads that are threatening to take over the forum that I'm annoyed about, and the lack of consideration those who do this are having for others.
Soon, our threads will be pushed so far back they'll be on page 3 or further, even though they're current. It's selfish behaviour, it's unnecessary and it's spoiling certainly MY enjoyment of the forums.
And it could all be easily avoided, if people just thought before they posted.
Not that a radical thing like THAT is likely to happen, is it?
*Eileen*
25-04-2007
Irresponsible! You make it sound as though your life is at stake just because there is a lot of interest, and therefore a lot of threads, on a particular show - and incidentally the original 'SciFi' forum (which was later renamed 'Cult') wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for the Doctor Who posters fighting for a seperate forum in the first place.

I personally think there are more imortant things in life to get worked up about.
Chrismcfall
25-04-2007
Any Dream Will Do/Grease has just got it's own subforum. Which most likely will be filled with massive threads which (usually) go off topic rather quickly. Depends, Cult would be pretty quiet when US shows are off air, if Doctor Who has a move to it's own place.
mossy2103
25-04-2007
Originally Posted by Trollheart:
“Soon, our threads will be pushed so far back they'll be on page 3 or further, even though they're current.”

Well, there's always the normal forum techniques of using the "Pag 1/2/3" buttons until you reach tha last of the "new posts since last visit" threads

Quote:
“It's selfish behaviour, it's unnecessary and it's spoiling certainly MY enjoyment of the forums.”

I really can't see what the problem is - the threads that you are interested in are no longer (generally) on page 1 - clicking onto page 2 or 3 is no big deal is it?
docman
25-04-2007
The reason Dr Who thread multiply is because people want to talk about it.

Eight times as many people watch it as watch Lost, so it's natual that it will have more threads. Fact of life I'm afraid and unless the Forum owners create a seperate section it will always be that way.
Red Arrow
25-04-2007
I suggest to everyone who thinks that Dr Who should have it's own forum to suggest to the admins via the Contact Us section.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/contact/forum/

It does suprise me that the reality shows each get their own forums but Dr Who, which has many spin-offs as well has to share a forum with all other cult shows.
Rooks
25-04-2007
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“I really can't see what the problem is - the threads that you are interested in are no longer (generally) on page 1 - clicking onto page 2 or 3 is no big deal is it?”

I can definitely see how annoying it would be if you aren't a Doctor Who fan though. Threads for other shows can get quite lost in the sea of Doctor Who threads
Colin_F
25-04-2007
Well I DO like Dr Who and still find it annoying.
Why? Because its not the ONLY show i like.
And yes it is annoying having to go to the second and third pages to find threads on NEW EPISODES of other shows while the front page is taken up with Top 10 Dr Who Costumes Elimination threads and the like
*Eileen*
25-04-2007
Originally Posted by Colin_F:
“Top 10 Dr Who Costumes Elimination threads and the like ”

I must admit that I find those threads pointless as well - not because they're more Doctor Who threads though, but because I loathe all those elimination competition threads when they appear in all the other forums as well.
Last edited by *Eileen* : 25-04-2007 at 20:58
Colin_F
25-04-2007
Originally Posted by *Eileen*:
“I must admit that I find those threads pointless as well - not because they're more Doctor Who threads though, but because I loathe all those elimination competition threads when they appear in all the other forums as well. Damned annoying.”

Exactly and if FANS find them annoying how annoying must it be for people who arent interested in the slightest.
Must be infuriating.
Silent Timelord
25-04-2007
Yes. I love this forum and DW but i agree that the time has come for a seperate DW, TW forum. Are you listening DS?
Trollheart
25-04-2007
Look, people have a right to disagree with my opinion: that's what forums are all about. I just think that DR WHO fans (some, not all) are not being considerate in the way they post multiple threads all over the place. Despite what it appears some people think, this is not the Doctor Who Forum, it's the Cult forum, and there are a lot of other shows besides Dr Who.
Consideration for others, that's all I'm asking, but it seems that's too much to expect.
Fine.
I see there's an announcement re upgrades they're doing at the beginning of May. I can only hope the powers that be take my suggestion (which, though shot down and indeed sneered at by some, has been supported by others) onboard. I'll reserve judgement till then.
But consider this as a parting thought. Say you hate Metallica, for instance, but find that your local record shop has, in the section marked ROCK, nothing but Metallica albums, complilations, tributes etc. Would you not be annoyed then? It's the same principle.
No, it's not going to change or save the world, but it would be a nice step towards a more tolerant one.
And before anyone says I'm a fine one to be talking about tolerance, remember all I asked for is a bit of thought and consideration. I didn't, and wouldn't, demand all Dr Who threads be eliminated from the forum, I'm not campaigning for the cancellation of the series (I actually like it) and I am, in general, a thoughtful and tolerant person.
So RASSSP to anyone who says different!
See yiz in the funny papers!
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