Personally, I think it's more arrogant of Daniel to decide he knows better than ALW how best to sing a song - and then produce the real stinker he came out with last Saturday. This particular piece of arrogance seems to have gone largely unnoticed, though. Apparently, it's more important to play best mates with the other boys than to listen to ALW. I don't understand why John Barrowman draws attention to Seamus's lack of 'team playing', but doesn't think it necessary to say to Daniel, 'You'll have to learn to take direction if you want to be a leading man.'

Awww no! Poor you

I had to go out just before the results show last week and i made my friend text me the result coz i couldn't enjoy the evening properly without knowing if sexy Seamus was safe.

We can't really know how much of this is true.... I think you are putting your own interpretation on things!
We didn't actually see Daniel have a stand up massive row with ALW and refuse to listen to him. It sounds more like he was given a certain amount of choice as to how he interpreted the song, and he chose to emphasise "joy", rightly or wrongly. I'm sure that if he had been really arrogant and difficult then we would have heard about it.
Also, of course, it may be that this was an isolated incident, (if it was an incident), and that other contestants are difficult more often!
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I am putting my interpretation on things. I did think it was arrogant of Daniel and I think his subsequent performance was poor - however my point is not that Daniel is a bad person (he's actually one of my favourites) but that all I ever see about Seamus is stuff about 'attitude', when it doesn't detract from his performance (ie, the voters might actually vote for him if they weren't helpfully reminded regularly that he's an arrogant git), yet when another performer ignores the great Lord's advice and sings far below their capabilities as a result (surely a greater 'crime' in musical theatre?), nobody on the panel thinks it worthy of comment. I genuinely do hope Daniel does as he's told this week: he was excellent in week one and poor the following week, so maybe taking advice works.

A completely agree with most of both your postings - although I actually think the VT of Daniel's "discussion" with ALW was as damning as anything that John has said to Seamus. Daniel was clearly shown as arrogant - and having been easily my favourite in week one, I was shown that there is a more unpleasant edge to him too. I don't think you can accuse the show of letting Daniel off the hook - or showing bias to him - if that were the case they wouldn't have shown the VT.

Well FeelTheForce in my personal opinion Seamus said nothing that I saw that would make me think he was the arrogant git, like he's being made out to be.

3 weeks (in the live performances that is) on I still like him and actually see a lot of good will between him and his team players. Saying I don't understand what being a team player means doesn't mean he doesn't respect his fellow competitors.

But I respect your opinion. I would rather this thread kept up with positives things about Seamus as it is an appreciation thread to him.
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By far his best performance tonight. Before he merely sang well. Tonight he performed well too.

I thought tonight was his best too. He really lighted up the stage for me. He seemed to be enjoying it a lot. I always like a performance that makes me smile.

Covered the stage nicely and seemed more relaxed. I agreed about the comment about him being nervous. A lot people try to cover up nerves with confidence and over do it, perhaps that was what happened to Seamus? Well he certainly seemed to have losened up a bit tonight, made the world of difference.

One word -

gutted

Awwwwwwwwwwww Seamus!

I knew there would be a shock sometime soon, there always is in these shows - i was just hoping it wouldn't be Seamus.

I think he could have played Joseph, but it wouldn't have been the best role for him - i just hope he will get work in another musical as a result of being on the show.

Bye Bye Seamus - i will miss seeing you on tv!

Is it just me or did he change the last line of the song he just sang to "for i have been promised a show of my own"????

Pooks
xxx

Thats what I heard

I will miss him.

What a ****. He didn't deserve to go tonight, but damn, what a ****.

I am so disappointed. He was my favourite tonight by miles and I am reconsidering watching the remainder! Seriously am.

He really didn't have to say that he thought it was a conspiracy to get him out - that's just silly

Nor should he have changed the last line of the song - now THAT was arrogant! The bloke who wrote it was sitting only a few feet away from him - if his arrogance had ever been in question before, it certainly isn't now

Sorry - haven't posted on this board before - but so incensed by the actions of Seamus that I couldn't stop myself!

He was my second favourite, omg I still can't believe the unjustice of it. And can I just say for the record, IF he is a bit arrogant what west end star isn't?

Same here. I don't really have a next-favourite so not sure who I would root for now, and I will just keep wishing Seamus was still in.

I wasn't too surprised at ALW's decision, as they had made it pretty clear how they felt about him, and sadly Seamus did nothing much to try and change that! I think he is gorgeous and talented (and i voted lots) but either people don't share my opinion or they just didn't feel they needed to vote for him. Did anyone else in this thread vote?!

I was disappointed he changed the words, just coz i knew it would make the haterz hate him even more! I think he also looked a bit thrown by the coat not coming off properly and he probably just did it on the spur of the moment.

I will miss him anyway.

of course as soon as craig was saved the jock telephone network went into meltdown

the mc dougal brothers got it in the x factor, jocks just ringing because they were scottish, and it happened tonight as well

jocks... they know they aint got talent, but a telephone vote helps that

lol

Totally agree. Will miss him a lot.

I think he is a genuinely nice guy but sadly was never given the chance to show it.

Just because someone has confidence they have to be branded as arrogant. Not fair at all. I just don't see it. I did vote once, and I usually never vote as I don't trust these shows, but I felt he was so outstanding tonight that I really ought to.

I am bitterly disappointed. Any respect I had for ALW has gone out the window. How he can prefer a so-called 'pretty' teenage boy over a man with real talent I don't know.

he was targeted as arrogant from show 1 and never got the chance to shake that tag off.

John Barrowman
Michael Ball
Michael Crawford

etc etc etc

Hmm I'd definatley disagree in regards to the Michaels.

Yeah but there is the i know i am good... and the I know that you know that I am good......

I have just re-read that...I mean they have confidence in there talent where as seamus is just over confident

Never underestimate the voting public.

Seamus has been arrogant since day 1 and people get fed up of that.

I don't like Daniel for the same reason.

The others are eager to just prove themselves but Daniel thinks he knows best and Lee needs to be careful too.