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How I wish Katie had been brought back to the Boardroom
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linfran
25-04-2007
How silly of Natalie to bring Lohit back just because he typed some inferior labels. She made a big error not taking Katie back.

I really dislike the habit Katie has of blanking Adam when he has asked a perfectly reasonable question. Yes, it is a class thing I think.

If Natalie had seen the footage in The Apprentice - You're Fired, she would have taken Katie back and I think Katie might have gone.
kenshukai
25-04-2007
I was so annoyed she bought Lohit back.

After all she made a massive error the week before with labels when she decided off her own back to change the name of the lollies and get the labels printed. Her label errors could have had huge implications. Lohits were simply the design.

I am so glad she has gone!
Ethereal
25-04-2007
I thought for a minute Sir Alan was gonna overrule her and say Katie had to come back. He's done it in the past where the project manager has picked two people to come back who didn't deserve it.
Tissy
26-04-2007
I thought AS sort of hinted enough to her but she didnt listen - silly woman.
Jamie181
26-04-2007
Well, it's good really. Every show needs a villain, and Katie fits that role perfectly.
Tissy
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by Jamie181:
“Well, it's good really. Every show needs a villain, and Katie fits that role perfectly.”

It`s only really this week though, I think she was pretty popular before tonights show.
floraandfauna
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“I thought for a minute Sir Alan was gonna overrule her and say Katie had to come back. He's done it in the past where the project manager has picked two people to come back who didn't deserve it.”

I thought he might have done that too but I think he had in mind either Natalie or Katie, so she saved him the choice really
Reality Sucks
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“It`s only really this week though, I think she was pretty popular before tonights show.”

She's a back stabber - she says what she wants people to hear to their faces and slags them off when they've gone - plus she isn't as clever as she thinks she is.
Fio Montoya
26-04-2007
I don't think Sir Alan has it in for Katie. As the art dealer guy said, she had the right approach, but only if its long term.

Natalie should have taken stock halfway through the evening, decided that soft sell wasn't working and switched to hard sell. She was the team leader.

Katie can argue her corner too, so she might just have stayed anyway.

But Natalie should have thought harder about who to take in while she had the chance.
Jamie181
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by Fio Montoya:
“I don't think Sir Alan has it in for Katie. As the art dealer guy said, she had the right approach, but only if its long term.
<snip>”

Oh no, Sir Alan would have relished the opportunity to get shot of Katie. He really didn't want to get rid of Natalie, but she didn't leave him much choice.

I think Natalie made the right decision though in bringing back Lohit though, as he was far weaker than Katie on this task. Both of them sold nothing, but Katie schmooze with the artists was really very good. I think some of them forgot that they had to sell themselves to the artists too, as ultimately it would be the artists choice of team in the case of a tie, and Katie made a good job of doing this by at least pretending to show some enthusiasm in their work.

Actually, this part was crucial really, as I think the success or failure of the task hinged on which team got the 'horse' artist. If Katie had been present at this pitch, I think she would have won it over Kristina, and secured her team the win.
Alrightmate
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“I thought for a minute Sir Alan was gonna overrule her and say Katie had to come back. He's done it in the past where the project manager has picked two people to come back who didn't deserve it.”

When has he ever done that?

I don't remember that ever happening.
EddyBee
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“I thought AS sort of hinted enough to her but she didnt listen - silly woman.”

That's what I thought.
natsuki*head
26-04-2007
A strange choice of ppl to bring back, Natalie basically doomed herself.
Achtung
26-04-2007
Katie played the friendship card and Natalie's too "nice" to know what's going on.

Still, out of the three in the boardroom, she was the right one to go - her and her "BA".
nickynoodle167
26-04-2007
Katie should have been brought back. I don't get why Lohit was bought back simply because that Pre-Madonna artist didn't like the fact he had printed them off of a PC!
Tissy
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by Achtung:
“Katie played the friendship card and Natalie's too "nice" to know what's going on.

Still, out of the three in the boardroom, she was the right one to go - her and her "BA". ”


Don`t forget the all important `M`
lumpbottom
26-04-2007
No wonder they didn't sell many of those lips photos. Would you have one on your wall?
Sir Alan didn't think much of them either - I hope the 'artist' with the over-inflated ego was watching

Why did they call her an artist, she was a photographer
Luxxy
26-04-2007
Even if Natalie had brough Katie in, I still think SAS would have fired Natalie. I think Katie had the edge, in terms of ability, over Natalie. I feel SAS only wanted Katie in there just so he could knock her down a peg or three.
booklover
26-04-2007
I don't know - I think he would have fired Katie. I really hope she goes soon. She obviously thinks herself so fantastic that she should be Alan Sugar's boss, not the other way around.

I didn't like Natalie much either, although I think she was the first one to actually thank Alan Sugar for the experience. Natalie let her emotions rule her by bringing Adam back into the boardroom. As argumentative as he can be, he did do what he was asked, and he did make two sales. It was obvious that he wasn't going to get fired. If Natalie had taken Katie back in, she might have saved herself.
The Swampster
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by nickynoodle167:
“Katie should have been brought back. I don't get why Lohit was bought back simply because that Pre-Madonna artist didn't like the fact he had printed them off of a PC!”

But did Lohit actually sell anything? Certainly his sales patter sounded nice, but I thought Adam and Simon were the only two on the team who actually shifted anything, so bringing back Adam implied a certain vindictiveness on Natalie's part: perhaps feelings left over from the zoo lolly-labelling disaster and perhaps too much listening to Katie's bitching about Adam's 'negativity'. Despite her not liking Adam, I think she was crazy to bring him in as he had a water-tight case for staying.

Katie's problem with Adam is interesting as he's the only person we ever hear her strongly attack. I don't think it's a class thing - she didn't have a problem with Essex-girl Natalie. I think it's more that she sees him as strong competition - he is, after all, Sir Alan's 'type'. She has the posh boys Simon and Paul wrapped round her finger, and can even get along with Tre (who I think she doesn't see as a potential winner) but Adam is not afraid of disagreeing with her publicly and is not charmed by her either. Class only comes into it as a potential weapon – to imply Adam might be 'hopelessly out of his depth' with anyone who isn't receiving benefits.

I do think the right person went. In fairness to Katie, she did a good job of charming the photographers and it was Natalie's sheer awfulness that lost them the easy-to-sell horse photographer. Natalie also twice showed she has a tendency to tell lies when in a difficult situation. Katie might be a tricky customer and not very likable, but if I was AS, I'd still have kept her in over Natalie.
Last edited by The Swampster : 26-04-2007 at 09:36
newkid30
26-04-2007
Originally Posted by The Swampster:
“Katie's problem with Adam is interesting as he's the only person we ever hear her strongly attack. I don't think it's a class thing - she didn't have a problem with Essex-girl Natalie. I think it's more that she sees him as strong competition - he is, after all, Sir Alan's 'type'. She has the posh boys Simon and Paul wrapped round her finger, and can even get along with Tre (who I think she doesn't see as a potential winner) but Adam is not afraid of disagreeing with her publicly and is not charmed by her either. Class only comes into it as a potential weapon – to imply Adam might be 'hopelessly out of his depth' with anyone who isn't receiving benefits.
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Really good points, I totally agree with you about the Adam v Katie dynamic, she is threatened by him and is using nasty tactics to try and demote him. She's meet her match though, he will stand up to her and does not find her intimidating. Upto this week I wasn't overly impresseed with Adam, but I really liked how he stood up for himself in the board room and wouldn't let Katie bully him.

I also think that the team like to use him as a scapegoat when actually he seems quite proactive in the challenges and gets things done, not just talking about it like some of them. Katie was too busy guzzling wine and smarming upto the putners to sell anything.

Lohit seems like a wate of space but he hasn't featured hugely and perhaps is doing alot of behind the scenes grafting.

I still think Katie is good though and has alot of good qualities but she really let herself down badly in this challenge.
ameredith
26-04-2007
I wished she had been fired last night if she had been brought back to the boardroom I think she would have been fired.
sweetcorn
26-04-2007
Katie was done a big favour and would have and should have gone last night. She is so full of herself, if you watch her audition tape it gives the impression why on earth would she want to be an apprentice - she knows it all already. She just can't tolerate any opinion other than her own, a control freak. When anyone gives an alternative idea or suggestion she just sits there rolling her eyes - she got away with this the first few times but now it's getting boring.
Saturn
26-04-2007
I love Katie, she is my favourite contestant and does not deserve to go anytime soon imo. I was most pleased she was left out of the bottom 3 last night
footygirl
26-04-2007
I think Katie was saved by a bit of female solidarity from Natalie
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