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Nigel Goodwin
10-05-2007
Try them both, it's YOUR personal opinion that matters - but the default setting is 1080i, and I'd personally probably leave it at that.

You might try various settings with your DVD player, your TV already has an upscaler, and it might work better than the DVD players - presumably there's an option to turn it off?.
w3dal
11-05-2007
Originally Posted by mat060572:
“Perhaps you are the man I need to speak to then about my future connections.

I have Sony DVP NS76h upscaling DVD player and Sky HD

As the panel has a resolution of 1024x720 should the Sky settings be 720p or should I leave it as it is at 1080i (this is on my 1366x768 LCD).

Similar question for the DVD player?

I do not really understand scaling - just want best picture.

Thanks ”

try usnig either mate and see what you think.

I actually have mine set to 720p but i know others like 1080i

at the end of the day its your eyes so you make the choice.

how you finding the screen??

Dal
mat060572
11-05-2007
Awaiting delivery - stil not got a date
w3dal
11-05-2007
Originally Posted by mat060572:
“Awaiting delivery - stil not got a date”

Be worth the wait fella - great screen you have there -

Dal
mat060572
11-05-2007
During the first 200 hours I am concerned about the kids watching their programmes on it during the day.

The amount of logos and dogs on CBBC etc is ridiculous.

Should I tell the wife not to let them watch it.

Risky as they will hate me!
bobcar
11-05-2007
Originally Posted by mat060572:
“Perhaps you are the man I need to speak to then about my future connections.

I have Sony DVP NS76h upscaling DVD player and Sky HD

As the panel has a resolution of 1024x720 should the Sky settings be 720p or should I leave it as it is at 1080i (this is on my 1366x768 LCD).

Similar question for the DVD player?

I do not really understand scaling - just want best picture.

Thanks ”

The best way is to try the different and see which one gives the best picture, if you can't see the difference then it doesn't matter.

I would leave the Sky at 1080i because going to 720p means there is processing at both the TV and Sky box, usually not a good idea.

For the same reason I would use the DVD at 560 rather than upscale but it does depend on whether the TV or DVD does the better scaling, try it and see.
w3dal
11-05-2007
Originally Posted by mat060572:
“During the first 200 hours I am concerned about the kids watching their programmes on it during the day.

The amount of logos and dogs on CBBC etc is ridiculous.

Should I tell the wife not to let them watch it.

Risky as they will hate me! ”

I wouldnt worry about it to much, these screens are pretty much bullet proof.

as a caution i would say after an hour of watching one of the kiddies channels move over to another channel with no logo whatsoever - like itv or bbc.

i have never had an issue with having sky sports on all day so dont let it worry or spoil your enjoyment.

just make sure you take it out of dynamic mode, and run the brightness and contrast lowish. i have mine half way and to be honest havent really need to touch it since.

really good blacks and vibrant colours.

Enjoy -

Dal
merlodlliw
11-05-2007
[

Good Evening.

I am unbiased, but it seems a lot technical knowledge is required with plasma, I know they give excellent pics,but the average person would not have a clue about contrast etc, so god help those who buy a showroom model,discounted, in the old days currys ran CRTS for 24hours/7 days, they went bang now and again but dogs & logos were rare if at all, but plasma as you the experts are saying is very complicated, so its CRT for me,for a while anyhow until BBC HD come on stream,

Again interested, but the wife would tell me to 4 letters off if I said please change channels, as she was watching dirty den get killed.


Enjoy what you are saying,adds to my knowledge bank.

Bob Wrexham County.
thms
11-05-2007
two new products for you one is lcd the other plasma

the new toshiba 'X' Range. a 42'' 1080p for under £1000

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...42in-LCD-TV/p1

and the new 8th generation pioneer plasma

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/ne...as-Unveiled/p1
w3dal
11-05-2007
Originally Posted by merlodlliw:
“[

Good Evening.

I am unbiased, but it seems a lot technical knowledge is required with plasma, I know they give excellent pics,but the average person would not have a clue about contrast etc, so god help those who buy a showroom model,discounted, in the old days currys ran CRTS for 24hours/7 days, they went bang now and again but dogs & logos were rare if at all, but plasma as you the experts are saying is very complicated, so its CRT for me,for a while anyhow until BBC HD come on stream,

Again interested, but the wife would tell me to 4 letters off if I said please change channels, as she was watching dirty den get killed.


Enjoy what you are saying,adds to my knowledge bank.

Bob Wrexham County.”

Its not complicated at all. you take it out the box plug it in and set it up to how you want it.

im sorry but any LCD or Plasma screen should be viewed from a proper av specialist currys or similar is a joke and to be honest most in there wouldnt even know how to-do a simple change from 1080i to 720p.

A proper av specialist will tell you how to set-up a screen and would proberly mention about the run in period. remember im only talking about one make of plasma panasonic - i have no idea about other brands. (its a precaution you DONT have todo it)

CRT's can suffer from screen burn if a static image is on there for long enough with the brightness and contrast is high enough

Dal
mat060572
12-05-2007
You should see the settings options on the new Samsung LCD's - unbelievable.

Good for the expert who wishes to calibrate their panel to videophile standards but to you and I it is just confusing IMO.

The Panasonic range has by far the simplest setting options I have seen but that is because some of their standard settings are very good and hardly need calibrating any further.
Catbed
12-05-2007
Originally Posted by merlodlliw:
“but the average person would not have a clue about contrast etc,”

Contrast, brightness, colour .... these settings have been around since the first colour TVs (and the first two since B&W sets). They are not a 'plasma' thing.

But you are actually largely correct, most people don't adjust their sets, which is why makes that don't have good 'out-of-the-box' settings tend to get rubbished.

As I understand it plasma is akin to thousands (millions?) of tiny CRTs placed in a grid. When new the phospors on both 'burn in' quickly for a bit before settling at a low level of 'wear' giving an expected 'life' of 30,000 to 60,000 hours.
Nigel Goodwin
12-05-2007
Originally Posted by Catbed:
“As I understand it plasma is akin to thousands (millions?) of tiny CRTs placed in a grid. When new the phospors on both 'burn in' quickly for a bit before settling at a low level of 'wear' giving an expected 'life' of 30,000 to 60,000 hours.”

More like millions of flourescent tubes (they work in the same way), and just like flourescent tubes they fade over time, but quite rapidly at first - this is what causes screen burn, when only part of the screen fades leaving the rest brighter. Once the intial 'burn-in' period is over, the chance of screen burn is GREATLY reduced.
merlodlliw
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“More like millions of flourescent tubes (they work in the same way), and just like flourescent tubes they fade over time, but quite rapidly at first - this is what causes screen burn, when only part of the screen fades leaving the rest brighter. Once the intial 'burn-in' period is over, the chance of screen burn is GREATLY reduced.”

Interesting what you are saying, I do recall my father buying a new car (circa) 1950s, after 500 miles it had to go in for a, bolt down as it was called, It does seem plasma is for experts, or is it like the old cars, dont exceed 50 mph for the first 500 miles, then it will last,till the body rusts away,which they did.

I am interested why plasma uses more fuel, compared to a LCD or CRT, but its 2007, I am sure in the 50s,due to shortages etc, more care was taken, I fully agree out of the box, means disaster now, unless a local inde instructs you and sets it up, damn sure makro/lidl/ wont, etc etc.

But I am learning. Enjoying your comments.#


Bob In a very wet Wrexham,soaked helping SWMBO at a carriage driving event. I said it would pour down at 1.30p.m. ,I was right, now I am a prat for getting it right.
merlodlliw
13-05-2007
Sorry again, Nigel, being freshley showered should have awoken me to your screen name. But two glasses of red must have Skyed me thoughts.

You of course will know, as a an inde, do you really give training when you install plasmas, and do they understand what you mean, your customers of course.

Bob Wrexham County,
Nigel Goodwin
13-05-2007
Originally Posted by merlodlliw:
“Sorry again, Nigel, being freshley showered should have awoken me to your screen name. But two glasses of red must have Skyed me thoughts.
”

At this very moment, I have my second (or is it third?) glass of red wine in hand

Quote:
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You of course will know, as a an inde, do you really give training when you install plasmas, and do they understand what you mean, your customers of course.”

We install and set it up, and show the customer how to work it - how much you actually show them depends VERY much on the customer, most are able to understand very little

As Sony main dealers, we do VERY little Plasma, as Sony dropped it and went the LCD route.
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