There was no way Ben sang better than Seamus in the sing off, but what on earth was Seamus doing in ADWD anyway if they thought he was too old/arrogant etc?

Sorry to see him go but to be honest I'd have to say 'You're not Joseph' anyway - too self-confident and mature to play the part - I reckon it is Keith!
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Keith? Oh, no, not with that Liza Minelli hair and too-white teeth. Plus he's too young and awkward to be convincing. He's cold on stage. Boring.

All in all Seamus came out as a very sad figure and has shot himself in the foot!

His attitude once more and the final star the change of lyrics at the end, I would stay well clear of him as in his present state in a "company" he would be a real problem.

I was sad to to see Seamus go last night......He was very badly edited but at least they showed he had colour.......some of the others seem so bland.

I must admit thou I could never see him as Joseph - but I hope he does well he has talent.

exactly. Seamus (whatever his faults) was good to watch and a good singer - at least he was interesting, not bland and boring - and he didn't have the false white teeth and extra blond hair!

Very well said. Totally agree.

It is sadly turning into a a little bit of a beauty pageant. ALW is savvy enough to know that teenage girls will keep the show afloat. Musically even he has admitted that Joseph is not his best work. Jason Donovan's weak vocals didn't stop that particular revival being phenomenonally successful. I would argue, even more so than The Sound of Music, that the star needs the ability to get the crowds in because the music alone will not.

As for Seamus being badly edited - I would imagine that with all his 'experience' he would know how to control himself sufficiently so that the editors couldn't portray him in a harsh light. The point about Elton John is well made, but he can get away with diva strops because he's Elton John. As Donny Tourette found out, it doesn't quite work if you're not famous enough, it just means dismal record sales.

I think you are right. Clearly ALW has seen something that he doesn't like. Faced with an opportunity last night to get rid - he took it. He will know that it is a controversial decision but he hasn't made the millions he has without making many of these over the years. Lets face it Ben is going to be in the sing off again & ALW knows it.

MB

Does anyone know where i can get a clip of seamus leaving?! I fell asleep watching last night b4 he left and really wanna see his exit song...

Ta muchly!

p.s. I think there is a conspiracy.. He would definately gone a long way in closed auditions, and he has ben editing badly by the BBC... just my twopenneth!

I think there was something more to Seamus leaving. He wasn't my favourite Joseph but he is 100 times better than Ben.

ALW hasn't been impressed with Ben for the last 3 weeks - same with the other judges (They have said on numerous occasions he just about made it into the top 12). And apart from Seamus' arrogance they have been impressed with him.

So why did ALW get rid of him? I doubt it was just down to the sing-off!

p.s. I think there is a conspiracy.. He would definately gone a long way in closed auditions, and he has ben editing badly by the BBC... just my twopenneth![/quote]





The thing is he hasn't got far in closed audtions has he, if he had he wouldn't be doing the show. bad attitude, bad loser, he could never lead a company with an attitude like that.

Very true but there's a difference in a legend like Elton and a wannabee like Seamus. The danger is if you are too arrogant BEFORE you make it you will just put people's backs up. Also I thought his remarks at the start of the show about his age and how Mick Jagger is still performing showed a lack of understanding of the difference between the search for a pop star and the search for someone to play a particular part - for example you couldn't have a Joseph who looked older than Jacob no matter how good he was!

Well said.
I was really sorry to see him go.

me 2! So glad he's gone

No, I'm sure it wasn't just down to the sing-off. Even if it was, I thought Seamus was much better than Ben in the sing-off anyway!

ALW seemed to have a bit of a thing about Seamus's age, in terms of 'if he hasn't made it yet then why should he now?', plus there's all this talk of arrogance, Seamus forgetting his words, etc. I can't believe he can really have thought Ben would make a better Joseph.

I'm guessing Elton John wasn't throwing tantrums at his very first audition - or displaying the arrogance and cockiness of Seamus at such an early stage in his career.

Forget who was the better singer. ALW asked for emotion in the sing off and Ben gave it to him in bucket loads. ALW couldn't ignore the reaction of the audience or the panel. It gave me goose bumps and Ben has improved immensely and I just hope he can do it again.

I am sure if he had saved Seamus there would have been loads of threads saying ALW got it wrong.

There might have been some dodgy editing not in Seamus's favour but for those who didn't see the editing well his final sing off said it all. The tussle with the coat the line 'show of my own' Great Seamus and I hope it is in the states

If there was a problem with his age they shouldn't have put him through in the first place

Elton John is a complete talent. Please don't compare him with someone that can just sing very well.

yes i thought he messed up his words slightly, and as for the "Show of my own" i actually thought it sounded like "job of my own" wacky ending

i didnt think he deserved to go so early, i personally think keith or ben should of gone, i cant understand any of the words when keith sings.
Im sure Seamus will do well wherever his career takes him he does have a very good voice afterall, even if he wasnt the chosen joseph

Lee or Daniel for Joseph dont mind which one i think they both suit the part

He doesn't. He clearly has a problem with Seamus (I think we all know what that is!!) & was waiting an opportunity in a sing off to get rid of him. I suspect it came earlier than ALW expected & made it look rather 'odd' against Ben but he was not prepared to let this opportunity go. ALW knows that Ben will be in the sing off again - probably next week as he is now the weakest of the contestants.

MB

With the greatest of respect, unless you're Ben's mum/girlfriend, I don't know how you can say honestly that Ben sang and acted better than Seamus. You might not like the guy, but he's incredibly talented. The fact that Ben's been in the bottom two twice in three shows speaks volumes.

me too i have been sitting fingers crossed every week he would go so arrogant and all me me me

Absolutely.

I think it was very telling in the loincloth mission that when Seamus forgot his words that ALW mentioned that as a singing teacher for him not to realise how important it was to learn the words, then he was not the Joseph for him. That made me think he would be on his way if he was in the sing off. Not the fact that he forgot his words, as lots did, but the fact that ALW took the opportunity to say 'he's not the Joseph for me' and so paved the way for getting rid of him.

But as Seamus was lowest in the viewer votes, and as he was never going to win, and I didn't really like him, I'm not too fussed that he is gone, as I'm sure Ben will go next week. Plus I thought, if you just looked at the sing-off, that Ben was not too much worse than Seamus, if you include emotion as well as voice. However if you include all the performances over all the weeks, there was no comparison, and Ben was much poorer and should really have gone