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How hilarious! I suppose Grease is about her level.
Yes, it's hardly surprising that her big break came about through David 'the letch' Ian. There is such a funny clip on youtube of her first audition. Graham's commentary on David is just outrageous. ![]() .I honestly thought she would fade into oblivion. However, the way things are going with GITW, maybe she still will... |
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If anyone is interested, Simona Armstrong is appearing in an episode of daytime soap Doctors in June.
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Weird that Siobhan is playing Patti, as that is the unglamorous nerdy girl and she doesn't sing (apart from a short burst of the school song if I remember rightly). However, if she is understudying Sandy I guess that makes more sense.
I liked Abi best. Didn't really "get" Aoife but glad to read she has put in some great performances. Connie just bored me - too stereotype Julie Andrews (but nowhere near as talented) to win a competition looking for somebody to change the stereotype Maria image! |
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Weird that Siobhan is playing Patti, as that is the unglamorous nerdy girl and she doesn't sing (apart from a short burst of the school song if I remember rightly). However, if she is understudying Sandy I guess that makes more sense.
I liked Abi best. Didn't really "get" Aoife but glad to read she has put in some great performances. Connie just bored me - too stereotype Julie Andrews (but nowhere near as talented) to win a competition looking for somebody to change the stereotype Maria image! |
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just thinking about the final 5 of Maria's vs Josephs. For me I felt the final 5 Marias were so much stronger, they all gave great performances that week and they all deserved to be there. I'm rapidly loosing interest in this show now.
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just thinking about the final 5 of Maria's vs Josephs. For me I felt the final 5 Marias were so much stronger, they all gave great performances that week and they all deserved to be there. I'm rapidly loosing interest in this show now.
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I was purely going on performances tonight compared to performances of the Maria final 5.
I think the final 5 in Maria were generally the best 5 in the competition, the most rounded performers and suited to the part (the exception being siobhan who at least had a lovely voice), this is not the case in Joseph. I think with Daniel and Seamus the show could have been a far higher standard than Maria. But ALW has decided to save mediocrity over talent it seems. |
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I wrote last year that Aoiffe would make a great lead in Blood Brothers, I could just imagine her reducing the audience to tears with "Tell Me It's Not True" at the end.
[Sadly I saw the show with a Nolan sister who couldn't act for toffee]. So glad to hear alot of the Maria girls are doing so well, they deserve it. Any news of lovely Leanne? I hope all the Joseph boys will enjoy equal success. BTW has anyone heard Meliz's new album? What's it like? |
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I was purely going on performances tonight compared to performances of the Maria final 5.
I think the final 5 in Maria were generally the best 5 in the competition, the most rounded performers and suited to the part (the exception being siobhan who at least had a lovely voice), this is not the case in Joseph. I think with Daniel and Seamus the show could have been a far higher standard than Maria. But ALW has decided to save mediocrity over talent it seems. |
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I agree with the second part. I'm afraid I can't remember the individual performances from last time well enough to comment!
Abi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0VL_...elated&search= Helena http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M71Z3Rvs0Fc Aoife http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EutNFFcShlw Connie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3oZ...elated&search= Sioban http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAd6c...elated&search= Compare the top 4 with this years! Abi was where Craig was this year - though if you look at ALW and the audiences reaction's it may have had more to do with jammed voting lines..... |
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And for anyone who is an Aoife fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uSQmanxoU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP_6s...elated&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmcpL...elated&search= This of course is the person who ALW got rid of for Sioban and supposedly couldn't do the role..... |
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I was purely going on performances tonight compared to performances of the Maria final 5.
I think the final 5 in Maria were generally the best 5 in the competition, the most rounded performers and suited to the part (the exception being siobhan who at least had a lovely voice), this is not the case in Joseph. I think with Daniel and Seamus the show could have been a far higher standard than Maria. But ALW has decided to save mediocrity over talent it seems. With this show, it has pretty much become a one horse race and I'm pretty much losing interest (despite Lee actually being one my favs). |
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Last year SF
Abi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0VL_...elated&search= Helena http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M71Z3Rvs0Fc Aoife http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EutNFFcShlw Connie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3oZ...elated&search= Sioban http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAd6c...elated&search= Compare the top 4 with this years! Abi was where Craig was this year - though if you look at ALW and the audiences reaction's it may have had more to do with jammed voting lines.....
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I agree with everything you're saying. While Connie was obvious the favourite, I felt that by the point, there were several people who could have played Maria. The girls seems to be more equal. It was only when Aoife and Abi got knocked off in the semis that it really felt that Connie had it in the bag (I didn't end up watching the final because the result seemed so obvious)
With this show, it has pretty much become a one horse race and I'm pretty much losing interest (despite Lee actually being one my favs). I just can't see any of the boys left giving Lee a run for his money at all. The gap is just too great, the only real advantage Connie had was consistency, whereas Lee has the advantage with just about everything. |
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It was quite obvious when Abi and especially Aoife went out, but even in the final Helena gave Connie a good run for her money, and I still believe that even though Connie was ALW's choice, he would have been content if Helena had won.
I just can't see any of the boys left giving Lee a run for his money at all. The gap is just too great, the only real advantage Connie had was consistency, whereas Lee has the advantage with just about everything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREpl...elated&search= either. This year may be an interesting contrast. Last year they had Sioban who was a good singer but inexperienced and young and Abi, Aoife, Connie and Helena who had all recently emerged from top professional/academic training courses. They are more mature and had been through the selection processes,the training and had peformances behind them. I thought all 4 of those girls could be leading ladies and in a year all 4 have got those roles .This time you have a lot of young competitors with less training or experience and Lee who is further into his career than the girls are without getting so noticed. Frankly thats what I think this year looks like by comparison. |
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I had forgotten how fab that performance of Helena's was - I think that she'll be great in South Pacific (will try and get tickets for the performance at my local theate
) Has anyone noticed that Helena trained at the same place as Daniel (Guildford School of Acting)?
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I agree with you networkbabe that Helena wasn't ALW's ideal Maria. But he wouldn't have been scared s***less if she'd won, unlike if Siobhan had won for example.
I think you have hit the nail on the head though. The remaining Josephs aren't necessarily less talented than the Marias. But they are so young and inexperienced (except Lee) that they just couldn't be leading men right now, with more training maybe. Wheras Connie, Helena, Abi and Aoife had enough training, talent and experience (and mental strength) to be leading ladies within a short ammount of time, maybe not Maria but they've all proved that they were more than ready enough for musical theatre. Also I love Helena's performance of Cabaret, performance of the series IMO. |
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Also I love Helena's performance of Cabaret, performance of the series IMO.
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Am hoping one of you lovely people can answer a Maria-related question for me please. I only watched bits of that series (mostly towards the end) but I do remember some great musical theatre performances (Big Spender springs to mind). Could you tell me if the lads this year are getting a worse deal regarding the song choices please? The reason I ask is I felt that Saturday's choice of songs was possibly the most unhelpful yet. Fine, stretch and challenge the lads, take them out of their comfort zone. However to give them songs that for example cannot give you the emotion you are looking for ('inner strength' from 'Hero'?), or in the words of one judge 'not the kind of song that Joseph would have to sing' or simply have the right word in the title, nothing else ('dreamer')...well, it just seemed pointless. Jocko, you thought that the standard wasn't as high this time. Could this in fact be that they aren't being given a chance to show what they can do, just (in some cases at least) what they can't? |
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I agree with you networkbabe that Helena wasn't ALW's ideal Maria. But he wouldn't have been scared s***less if she'd won, unlike if Siobhan had won for example.
I think you have hit the nail on the head though. The remaining Josephs aren't necessarily less talented than the Marias. But they are so young and inexperienced (except Lee) that they just couldn't be leading men right now, with more training maybe. Wheras Connie, Helena, Abi and Aoife had enough training, talent and experience (and mental strength) to be leading ladies within a short ammount of time, maybe not Maria but they've all proved that they were more than ready enough for musical theatre. Also I love Helena's performance of Cabaret, performance of the series IMO. (BTW, I think that might be lee's downfall. He's amazing, but maybe too good for Joseph!) |
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Am hoping one of you lovely people can answer a Maria-related question for me please. I only watched bits of that series (mostly towards the end) but I do remember some great musical theatre performances (Big Spender springs to mind). Could you tell me if the lads this year are getting a worse deal regarding the song choices please? The reason I ask is I felt that Saturday's choice of songs was possibly the most unhelpful yet. Fine, stretch and challenge the lads, take them out of their comfort zone. However to give them songs that for example cannot give you the emotion you are looking for ('inner strength' from 'Hero'?), or in the words of one judge 'not the kind of song that Joseph would have to sing' or simply have the right word in the title, nothing else ('dreamer')...well, it just seemed pointless. Jocko, you thought that the standard wasn't as high this time. Could this in fact be that they aren't being given a chance to show what they can do, just (in some cases at least) what they can't? You wonder what the singing coach does all week too if you compare this show to what went on in Fame Academy where days were spent adapting the song to the singer and finding money moments . Here there is a poverty of money moments either because the boys can't sing them or because no one found them any. Thats part of the reason why apart from one song from Lee who got near a couple of weeks ago and one great Keith vocal, I just haven't seen any Joseph pull out a great performance which ticked all the acting, moving, singing boxes at once. The other part is that t I suspect that they are just not as good - at least yet. I see the daftness of the assumption someone on the show made that the word hero made the song about heroism . I just think that if ALW told one of the better actresses like Aoife or Abi or Helena that he wanted heroism he would have got heroism regardless. As it was I thought Lewis was nice but displayed no strength only for his lordship to say the same thing. |
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That was true last year too though. - Aoife got football songs and Abi got a song outside her range - which they then proceeded to talk about again in the semi-final even though it was nothing like Maria's songs and only Helena might have done it any better.
) and Helena (although her performance of Cabaret in the final was superb and I'm glad we got to see that.)Whatever they felt about Aoife, they could not wait to get rid of Abi (despite the fact that she exactly fitted the tomboy Maria image they said they wanted). Her performance of 'Maybe this time' was the best thing in that semi-final and I hated the way that, because they couldn't fault it, they kept banging on about her previous week's performance. That sucked. Let's see if they do that with Ben next saturday The strange thing is that, although ALW and everyone else kept comparing the final 12 Josephs favourable with the final 10 Maria's, now that we've got to the final five, this year's pickings look considerably weaker than their Maria counterparts. |
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Whatever they felt about Aoife, they could not wait to get rid of Abi (despite the fact that she exactly fitted the tomboy Maria image they said they wanted). Her performance of 'Maybe this time' was the best thing in that semi-final and I hated the way that, because they couldn't fault it, they kept banging on about her previous week's performance. That sucked. Let's see if they do that with Ben next saturday .............. . Is Ben or Keith the one to lose thoughh? Keith is the one who hasn't been in the bottom 2? If he's more popular and in striking distance of Lee he's the one to get rid of if you want Lee. I just don't see ALW going to bed thinking I can have either Keith or Lee - its like chalk and cheese - would give me a panic attack if it could go either way? On the other hand perhaps Keith has a Sioban size vote and Ben is coming up as Helena? |
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Is Ben or Keith the one to lose thoughh? Keith is the one who hasn't been in the bottom 2? If he's more popular and in striking distance of Lee he's the one to get rid of if you want Lee. I just don't see ALW going to bed thinking I can have either Keith or Lee - its like chalk and cheese - would give me a panic attack if it could go either way? On the other hand perhaps Keith has a Sioban size vote and Ben is coming up as Helena? If ALW doesn't want him as Joseph, then he'd be best off trying to get rid of him this week, because if Keith gets to the final then it wouldn't surprise me at all if he pulled it off. How to do that? Make sure Lee has a phenomenon song and give Ben a real show stopper that he can do really well. Give Keith a difficult song to put across (not from a musical point of view, but from the performance side). Hopefully, this leaves him with a bottom two of Keith and Lewis. ALW takes the opportunity he hasn't had so far 'I have to think of the part, who actually suits the role of Joseph' and saves Lewis again. In the final, stitch Ben up with a very difficult song, watch him crash and burn and get him out, which leaves Lee versus Lewis and it seems to me that there is no way in hell the voting public are going to choose Lewis. |
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) and Helena (although her performance of Cabaret in the final was superb and I'm glad we got to see that.)