You forgot t***ers - another much used word in Tre's limited vocabulary.

Do you think they can tell the difference in the South?! (Where I live?) They think if you've got any kind of Northern accent, you're automatically from Corrie-land. I'm from Oxfordshire (a country accent not unlike West country/E Anglia - think Pam Ayres) and I was nicknamed Farmer Giles when I first went to London, I got so sick of jibes about 'straws in my hair' and inbreeding, that I nearly left and came home! And if you're a Geordie or Scouser, forget it (they all look at each other and keep saying "just run that past me again" - true, I've seen this kind of behaviour time and time again). The City of London is the worst, but you get it all over the South. Me and my OH (a Brummie) have adjusted our accents to 'fit' over the years (our families now think we're snobs - you can't win!!).

Lots of cold baked beans, from his empty tins, no doubt!

She really let her relationship with Paul cloud her judgement. I don't like the woman, but she's not usually one to sit back and let crashingly obvious mistakes like that happen - in most tasks she has virtually taken over from the PM.

You're quite right. I've probably lived more of my life in the South (Hamphire), than in the North, and despite northern friends & family complaining that I don't speak like them any more, I am constantly being categorized down here beacause of my accent.

It's ironic really, as a great number of the most successful city professionals that I come across, hail from Yorkshire or Scotland.

from Radio Times for next weeks episode

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And it's not just that either. People are selected for their background, so for instance, Rory because he had had failed businesses; Simon had been made redundant; some are mothers or single mothers and so on.

I can't help wondering if she is being edited or if she really has stopped being so contentious and mouthy.

I couldn't tell which of them it was who was shown from behind and then it went to a shot of Simon. Whether it was the same person in both shots I don't know. Maybe Simon will be the one fired.

As he was with her in last week's task as well. If you can attract praise and recognition in both winning and losing tasks, you are doing very well.

That's a London / SE prejudice, though. How ignorant! The same thing with Gazal as she has a Glaswegian accent; and Kristina: she has an Irish accent so she can't possibly be middle class.

We don't all do it, some of us are nice, honest, I can even tell the difference between a Sunderland and Newcastle accent (which do sound very similar to southern softy ears )

So far I've got Kristina, Adam, Lohit and Tre in my good books - Tre makes me laugh so much (the French are rude - that coming from Tre ) he does work hard, if he could tone down the agression etc he'd be a potential winner.

Katie makes me wish burning at the sake for witches was still legal (apologies to any witches out there )

Massively disappointed in Simon, my early favourite, he can bog off now after last night's showing.

Others are pretty invisble, apart from Jadine, she's err, not coping too well is she

I'm impressed at your ability to distinguish between Sunderland and Newcastle accents AK. I'm a Mackem but am always mistaken for a Geordie - it isn't easy to differentiate.

I really like Adam (want him to win), Kristina and Lohit are also excellent. Tre is fabulous, car crash viewing - he makes me laugh out loud.

As for the rest -Katie is hideous, Simon is duplicitous, Jadine prickly and difficult, Naomi is boring and Ghazal is a nonentity.

What a brilliant episode this week!! I think Kristina is the stand-out candidate of the series so far. I've liked her from the start but she's really stamped her mark on the show over the past few weeks. She has one major thing going for her that many of the others seem to lack - common sense!! Combined with a ruthlessness to achieve results (as seen by her sales technique with the chocolate lollies) and the fact that she appeared to be a good leader last week, I really do think at this stage she's the one to beat.

Of the remaining candidates I like Adam and Lohit. I think they will both make the final stages, and possibly Tre too.

wot an idiot paul was bringing kristina in just because she stold up to him! kstie had him so wrapped round her finger and she is so sly its unbelievable

poor adam when he walked back in and they all just sat there in silence

also did u notice siralan mentioned katie not being back in the br yet again and looked disappointed -im sure he sees right through her

Yes, but technicalities to one side, the point I was making is that Adam's accent would probably be generally associated with being working class.
Especially to the snobs in the house, and possibly even to the programme makers.

I'm sure he is pretty lower middle class, but his accent would probably stereotype him. Just having the northern tinge to his accent would be enough.

I know it may annoy you but I think a lot of people do make assumptions, and that was what I was pointing out really. That on screen they are presented as broad brush stroke caricatures.
I think a lot of people may hear Adam's accent and conclude "Hey, he's from oop North".

I'm originally from Lancashire too.

I wonder how truly "upper/middle class" the posh ones are, or first generation with parents who made money? They seem exaggeratedly posh. On his cv, Paul claims:
<First job was selling jumpers on his parents market stall.>

Tre's family have a successful business, but he is not snobby, one of his few virtues.

Kristina must win, just for using the word "eejit". I hope next week she manages to use "****in eejit" (the Fr. Ted version - not the proper sweary one!).

Like a lot of people, I was appalled by the treatment of Adam in this episode, especially the other contestants' reactions when he returned to the house. I actually quite liked Katie at the beginning of the series, but now... ugh.

Adam didn't deserve to be in the Boardroom the last 2 times (in fact, last week he was virtually the only one who made his team any money) but now I don't think he can win it - he's been brought back too many times. Lohit's now gone from barely registering with me to being my favourite.

About the dumping the food issue: I assumed it was dumped because raw meat and cheese goes off very easily and this had been outside in what looked like quite warm weather all day. Perhaps they couldn't give it away due to Health & Safety issues?

I think you are right. The sausages were bought the day before, then a long half day in the market, I would not risk eating them. The cheese was cr@p to start with, (I loved the way editing showed Paul's "I know better" smile after Kristina told him on the phone not to buy cheese from Makro, next shot, wheeling a trolley of cheese out of the cash & carry ) they should have offered it to a pig farmer. They had to dump it in Calais, not sure why they could not bring it back to England.

Us southerners don't all think people who speak with a northern accent are working class you know. I've not seen this snobbery on the Apprentice before - James Max (series1) was pretty posh and he managed to get on with everyone. As for Kristina, I thought she had a west country or Norfolk accent.Is she Irish?

That's what annoys me about Sir Alan....
....when somebody repeatedly gets brought back to the boardroom he apparently assumes that it must be they who are at fault.

What Sir Alan doesn't seem to consider is that it's a gameshow, and some of them will gang up together in order to try to force somebody out just because they reckon it gets themselves off the hook, and they think that it's an easy cheap trick that Sir Alan won't notice and will inevitably fall for. Which it seems he does.

It makes no difference if somebody is repeatedly brought into the boardroom, it's just somebody trying to target somebody else as a scapegoat. It doesn't necessarily make it true that they must be to blame for some reason.

It's as though Sir Alan just falls for these games where contestants target each other and try to stab a scapegoat in the back through this sly tactic.
Why doesn't he recognise this and see what's going on?
Why does he always ask the victim of this practice why they've been brought back when he should know himself?

Surely he must recognise that this is a gameshow and gamesmanship more than likely enters the equation.

Can you imagine in a real world workplace if a group ganged together and kept telling tales on their victim by grassing them up and reporting them to the boss?

I think Sir Alan has to wise up to the fact that some if not all of them will resort to game playing just to win and won't care about integrity.
Just because somebody keeps getting brought back to the boardroom it doesn't mean that it's their fault. If a group have decided to pick somebody as their next fall guy until they can get them eliminated then there's a not a lot the victim can do about this no matter how reasonable and professional they are.

This has been going on in previous series as well, not just this one. Saira and Jo have both fallen foul of this devious practice. I wish Sir Alan would at least acknowledge this as a possibility in front of viewers instead of just blaming the scapegoat of this sly trick, who in this case is Adam.

For the last two weeks Adam has done sod all wrong as far as I can see.
Katie has been let off the hook for the last two weeks due to alliances formed, and Adam has suffered because of this.
How can Sir Alan suggest that it must be Adam's fault given that he knows that Katie should have been up before him for the last two weeks? He appears to know this yet still points the finger at Adam.
Surely he doesn't even need to ask Adam why he keeps getting picked, it's pretty obvious why.
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He never means it. He just uses the comment every time to scare the person into thinking that their time is up.

That`s annoying me too

However the last two weeks, the team leaders have both been fired so maybe SAS is not so blind as to what is going on afterall ?

That's because James Max was clearly a nice guy and the chinless chumps in this series are vile prigs with zero charm - unlike James, who could charm the leaves off the trees. (I should have said 'chinless charmless chumps', shouldn't I, hehe?! ) And Kristina - I don't think they say 'eejit' in the West country, lol!

Incidentally, has anybody spotted James doing a 'roving reporter' job on the Harvey Goldsmith show? First time I've seen him since the Apprentice - he's not bad actually.