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Old 02-05-2007, 23:58
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Do you not underatand? He has had the "delightful" Katie telling him for the last few weeks who wonderful and intelligent he was and he really believed it. What surprised me was that SAS thought he would have gone further.

As for being the most stupid he did take up with the evil Kate and that was a big part of his down fall. So that is him and her friend Natalie gone because of her.

Although I would say Rory would give him a good run for his money in the stupidity stakes.
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Old 02-05-2007, 23:59
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Originally Posted by donlothario
I would have been far more impressed by her if she had come up with some suggestions to improve the situation rather than causing arguments and being confrontational. It's all very well identifying there is a problem or an error has been made, but it is much more difficult to identify a solution.
I do think that she identified a solution though.She managed to get those sausages cooked by talking her way into a kitchen in France (and she was absolutely clear about not being confident in french.)
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:30
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Originally Posted by Reality Sucks
He was amazingly incapable of seeing his own shortcomings and kept trying to justify his mistakes, even after having watched the programme back. Adam and Tre are beginning to look better and better as the series progresses.


Completely agree. Paul wasn't quite as incompetent as Rory but then who is Tre and Adam get better and better.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:10
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Originally Posted by mazey
Do I sense a conspiracy? Katie (the idea) and Paul were out to stitch Adam up.

Kristina did come up with alternatives, early on, when the cheese stayed on the list, she said not cheddar IIRC. I do not think Paul came up with chutney and marmalade as good products.

ETA Thanks Robot 1000, I thought he was, as Natalie was a pain in that task.
Yes I think they thought Adam would make the ideal sacrifice since he has already been in the boardroom twice - think AS saw through that one though ...
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:05
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I think Sir Alan likes the fact Adam has some balls and will stand up to anyone who is trying to shoot him down. Adam is always the first with the shrewd business questions (see the art task for example), and although he's very rough around the edges I think he has a lot of potential.

The apprentice is not about finding the finished article, but someone to mold into an excellent business mind.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:08
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This is the first series I've watched and what have I been missing! It's great.

Paul was so impressed with his own baked bean tin idea that he lost all perspective and as for selling them cash and carry cheddar! What would people suggest taking? Pork pies? Samosas or other ethnic food?

Paul was arrogant beyond belief and he and Katie clearly believe that being a different class gives them automatic superiority. But the revolution has already happened!
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:14
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Liked Katie describing him as the most intelligent in the house. So intelligent, in fact, that he took pork sausages into an Halal butchers. Doh!!
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Old 03-05-2007, 14:44
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Trying to sell cash and carry cheddar cheese in France is one of the dumbest ideas I've seen so far on the show. .......I almost expected him to grab a crate of Blue Nun for them to wash it down with.
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Old 03-05-2007, 14:49
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The thing that struck me was the way he was described as a former army lieutenant.

2nd Lieutenant is the lowest officer rank and is the rank people who join on a commission receive. Those who get promoted from the ranks jump over the 2nd and 1st Lieutenant ranks to reach Captain.

It's pretty clear he did his officer training course, got his commission and left pretty quickly. Any half decent officer gets promoted from that rank pretty fast. I'd say he's got about as much army experience as Ross Kemp.
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Old 03-05-2007, 15:02
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It's a tough call between Rory and Paul for the title of dumbest, Paul thought selling cheap cheese to the French was a good idea, Rory thought people wanted to walk their dogs looking like Rambo - tough, tough call
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Old 03-05-2007, 16:28
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Originally Posted by mazey
Me three, Adam has had a hard time but he has always been good, asked sensible questions every week, sell anything, the lion suit was his biggest error, for a short time in one task. Was he Team Leader for the sweets task?

Tre is getting more likeable. Kristina is easily the best of the women, Naomi is almost invisible.

Re OP, Paul was shown up to be a blimp, all hot air very little substance. Talked total rubbish on YF, no humour.
exactly my sentiments. I almost thought SAF was going to fire adam which would have been a real mistake. I guess he has learned from his time in charge of spurs. presentation only goes so far before it must give way to substance. Paul was deficient to the point of needing a transplant.
lohit is my favourite, closely followed by adam and simon.
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Old 03-05-2007, 16:33
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Originally Posted by Agent Krycek
It's a tough call between Rory and Paul for the title of dumbest, Paul thought selling cheap cheese to the French was a good idea, Rory thought people wanted to walk their dogs looking like Rambo - tough, tough call
Agreed but I'd throw Natalie in there too for good measure...for likening an artist's work to her highlights (and actually saying it to his face when she was meant to be schmoozing him!) and for being taken in by Katie hook, line and sinker!

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Old 03-05-2007, 16:33
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Originally Posted by incisorboy
but I do think they are picking on Adam for practically nothing now.)
The way I see it too
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Old 03-05-2007, 17:54
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Originally Posted by lucky74
The thing that struck me was the way he was described as a former army lieutenant.

2nd Lieutenant is the lowest officer rank and is the rank people who join on a commission receive. Those who get promoted from the ranks jump over the 2nd and 1st Lieutenant ranks to reach Captain.

It's pretty clear he did his officer training course, got his commission and left pretty quickly. Any half decent officer gets promoted from that rank pretty fast. I'd say he's got about as much army experience as Ross Kemp.
AND he was in Human Resources, lol!! (As someone else said in another thread, they must have been crapping themselves in Basra when they saw him coming with his appraisal forms - I laughed SO much at that, the image was hilarious!!! )
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Old 03-05-2007, 18:22
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Originally Posted by JTW
As soon as he brought out those cans of beans and started turning them into cooking utensils, I knew it was all downhill from there.
LoL! Another thing i found quite funny was when Katie was saying something like 'Paul is one of the most brilliant, intelligent people in the country', then it cut to a shot of him trying to drink out of a cup of water and dribbling it over himself, i found that childishly amusing
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Old 03-05-2007, 18:26
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TWERP is the only word that does Paul any justice.
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Old 03-05-2007, 18:45
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Originally Posted by lucky74
The thing that struck me was the way he was described as a former army lieutenant.

2nd Lieutenant is the lowest officer rank and is the rank people who join on a commission receive. Those who get promoted from the ranks jump over the 2nd and 1st Lieutenant ranks to reach Captain.

It's pretty clear he did his officer training course, got his commission and left pretty quickly. Any half decent officer gets promoted from that rank pretty fast. I'd say he's got about as much army experience as Ross Kemp.
that is almost EXACTLY what my husband said! haha
can you imagine that feeble specimen leading men into battle?
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Old 03-05-2007, 18:50
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Originally Posted by Dollystanford
that is almost EXACTLY what my husband said! haha
can you imagine that feeble specimen leading men into battle?
He could probably lead them into a 'Health & Safety workshop', but that's about it!
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Old 03-05-2007, 19:33
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Originally Posted by JonDoe
Trying to sell cash and carry cheddar cheese in France is one of the dumbest ideas I've seen so far on the show. .......I almost expected him to grab a crate of Blue Nun for them to wash it down with.
Along with tea on the other team.
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Old 03-05-2007, 20:19
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Originally Posted by lucky74
I'd say he's got about as much army experience as Ross Kemp.

Originally Posted by SapphicGrrl
AND he was in Human Resources, lol!! (As someone else said in another thread, they must have been crapping themselves in Basra when they saw him coming with his appraisal forms - I laughed SO much at that, the image was hilarious!!! )


Originally Posted by sallystrawb
LoL! Another thing i found quite funny was when Katie was saying something like 'Paul is one of the most brilliant, intelligent people in the country', then it cut to a shot of him trying to drink out of a cup of water and dribbling it over himself, i found that childishly amusing
Really enjoying this thread - the above quotes particularly made me laugh out loud.
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Old 03-05-2007, 22:36
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Sir Alan did me proud getting rid of that upper class twit, Paul. What a useless chinless wonder he is!

I couldn't stand his slimy ways and that massive ego he has - it was great to see him taken down a peg.

He blamed everyone for his cock-eyed boy scout 'bean cooker' for not working, except the moron who invented it - himself. Those great slabs of cheapo cheese were the silliest idea ever. It's like taking coals to Newcastle, as Sir Alan himself said. And the Mastermind came up with trying to sell pork sausages to an Algerian Muslim, in a shop selling halal food. Priceless.

I wonder just what he did in the 'army' (office job?), surely he couldn't seriously have led men in any conflict, he has the charisma and leading abilities of a plank of balsa wood. I can quite honestly see him in the part of 'Darling' in Blackadder Goes Forth, slimying, toadying and wimping himself round Stephen Fry as General Melchett.

And his toff 'girlfriend' Kate blamed someone else instead of the real culprit, just because they fancy each other. Pathetic.

I was so glad to see him skulk away. Next time I hope it's her.

Sir Alan never lets me down!

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Old 03-05-2007, 23:02
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Originally Posted by hume
exactly my sentiments. I almost thought SAF was going to fire adam which would have been a real mistake. I guess he has learned from his time in charge of spurs. presentation only goes so far before it must give way to substance. Paul was deficient to the point of needing a transplant.
lohit is my favourite, closely followed by adam and simon.
Welcome to DS.

Paul has so many deficiencies I wonder which part most needs a transplant - his brain?

Originally Posted by Radiomaniac

I wonder just what he did in the 'army' (office job?), surely he couldn't seriously have led men in any conflict, he has the charisma and leading abilities of a plank of balsa wood. I can quite honestly see him in the part of 'Darling' in Blackadder Goes Forth, slimying, toadying and wimping himself round Stephen Fry as General Melchett.
That is exactly who he reminded me of, same slimey quality.

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Old 03-05-2007, 23:03
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I do think that she identified a solution though.She managed to get those sausages cooked by talking her way into a kitchen in France (and she was absolutely clear about not being confident in french.)
I quite agree. She is hugely proactive and clearly a creative thinking. She may not be the best "team player" in the world simply because she does not suffer fools gladly and is probably continually surrounded by those she regards as fools, who compared to her probably are. If she can tone that down she will be fine. Hopefully she will get her chance before she builds up too much resentment amongst the troops.
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Old 03-05-2007, 23:09
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The army is full of Paul's type - I had to put up with them at functions when my husband was in the forces. They give you a wet handshake and use words like ticketyboo. I couldn't wait to get away from their shallow conversations.
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Old 03-05-2007, 23:14
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Originally Posted by Radiomaniac
I wonder just what he did in the 'army' (office job?), surely he couldn't seriously have led men in any conflict, he has the charisma and leading abilities of a plank of balsa wood. I can quite honestly see him in the part of 'Darling' in Blackadder Goes Forth, slimying, toadying and wimping himself round Stephen Fry as General Melchett.
Human Resources!! (Check my post, no. 39 I think.)
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