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And this applies to Katie and not to Kristina how exactly?
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That would be a win-win from what I've seen. For as long as one was locked up, she would be the one most likely to be entertaining for the longest time. On the other hand, given her smarts, I reckon she'd find a way out quicker than any of the rest of them.
I'm not normally someone who takes offence but I do object to upper class twits who think they can make snide comments about northerners. That was bang out of order. She doesn't want to go north South Mimms for a while, she's not popular! Carl |
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I meant if you personally like her then get locked up with her, er, fancy being alive or dead??
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Katie is brilliantly repellent......likeable thou....NO!
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she makes me want to rip my ears off just so I can stop listening to her posh iritating elocution failing voice
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The only time I want to see Katie again is to watch her face when he tells her she's fired, I must remember to keep it on tape too...
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As a business-woman, she's very competant. Good negotiation and leadership skills...
As a villainous, she's great. The best the show has ever seen. Very charismatic, and she comes out with the most hateful yet imaginative insults with the most deadpan expression on her face. She's doesn't come across as such a nice person, but who cares when she's providing us with such great entertainment. |
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Topcat63, I understood what you meant and responded accordingly. Locked up together, she is the best bet to a) entertain me and b) get me out.
carljohnson, I agree, Kristina wasn't in the boardroom because Adam didn't take her there. My point was simply that the reasons you gave as to why she should be there can't have been Adam's reasons because they applied equally to Kristina. I don't condemn Katie for her looks or her class. I judge her against what she's there to do. I agree that her comment on Adam's roots were ill-judged and will probably cost her, but I like that she actually says what she thinks. There's no one who doesn't have times when they think another is an idiot or out of their depth. (Adam was delusional in thinking anyone feared him as a main contender.) There's no one who doesn't on occasion want to smirk at having achieved an ambition. Katie doesn't disguise those feelings. Since I despise hypocrisy, it's a quality I value. |
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1). Whatever I think about Katie, she isn't thick, she knew those rules inside out & back to front - I doubt anyone is going to dispute that. Therefore, she knew the implications of going/not going.
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2). They had made a pact to work against the others in the team according to the narrator (and subsequent scenes).
She made a pact with Kristina to bury the hatchet and perform to the best of their ability on the task. Nothing wrong with that.Quote:
It was only in the boardroom she realised she'd been played by Kristina.
In what way did Kristina play her?
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I think she is brilliant. I don't think she will win but she brings so much to the show
Her witty comments and attitude are fantastic to watch. Adam brought it upon himself meantioning her relationship with whatshisface Go on Katie! ![]() She obviously can negotiate and can run a team - which is more than most of them. The question mark is how many of the wrong calls she can avoid and how many she can get right which we need to see more of her doing as a TL. The competition isn't great though. Tre is in the tradition of Syed and probably less capable. Lohit is invisible. Jadine looked deranged and has now become invisible. Ghazal is actually quite bright compared to the rest but is too young and inexperienced. Simon might have been competent but certainly didn't show it tonight. Naomi is a safe option but hasn't impressed that much. That just about leaves Kristina who actually seems to think the same as Katie but doesn't say it or chuck out non-PC statements. Its not at all clear yet whether Kristina is smarter than katie though. it is clear that the rest are not smarter or better team leaders. . |
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How desperately pathetic all you men sound, saying that Katie is 'witty' and funny - and a good businesswoman, whaaatt??!!
I actually think that you are all secret subbies on the quiet, looking for a pitiless domme to punish you and crush your tender parts with her stilettoes!! (Go on, admit it - it's nothing to be ashamed of, lol!! Although I think that she'd probably be as crap at that as she is at everything else!!)
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How desperately pathetic all you men sound, saying that Katie is 'witty' and funny - and a good businesswoman, whaaatt??!!
I actually think that you are all secret subbies on the quiet, looking for a pitiless domme to punish you and crush your tender parts with her stilettoes!! (Go on, admit it - it's nothing to be ashamed of, lol!! Although I think that she'd probably be as crap at that as she is at everything else!!) ![]() My bet is one of the mediocre people will get the job after looking passable in the last few weeks. Katie and Kristina will both frighten him like Ruth did. |
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SapphicGrrl, your assumption about the gender of posters are about as spot on as your assessment of Katie's negotiating skills.
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If you had competent intelligent forceful people with leadership potential to choose from you would have the luxury of dumping someone who was bitchy. As it is the choice is between the staggeringly bad, the mediocre, Katie and Kristina.
My bet is one of the mediocre people will get the job after looking passable in the last few weeks. Katie and Kristina will both frighten him like Ruth did.
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As a business-woman, she's very competant. Good negotiation and leadership skills...
As a villainous, she's great. The best the show has ever seen. Very charismatic, and she comes out with the most hateful yet imaginative insults with the most deadpan expression on her face. She's doesn't come across as such a nice person, but who cares when she's providing us with such great entertainment. I kind of agree with you - I don't like her, but the rivalry between her and Kristina is making the show interesting. I liked the fact that they worked together so well despite the fact that they dislike each other. I think Kristina is equally tough and ruthless, but is not so two faced. Last week I couldn't stand to watch her, this week she's been good entertainment and much as I liked Adam, he didn't do himself any favours this week. |
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I agree that this lot of apprentices are pretty poor and its hard to imagine any one of them as the Apprentice.
However Katie, who does seem quite efficient and capable and astute in many ways has a real nasty streak. If she thinks the things she says on camera behind peoples backs are amusing, she is sadly lacking people skills. You do not degrade someone simply because they're from the North or have a 'inferior' job to you. She may think they are slow, inarticulate, out of their depth etc. but putting it down to where they come from and effectively branding all northerners as stupid is narrow minded, snobbish and unbelievably condecending. In her working life she will have to work with people from all over the country and if she treats them with the same patronising attitude she will be very unpopular. The way she spoke to Adam in the board room was incredible. I can only think SAS is keeping her on because of the TV value because although when you're in the board room its no holds barred and you go in for the kill, her whole argument was on personality and not business skills. She started the type casting of Adam as negative, boring etc. in the task where he was the gooseberry when she and Paul were trying to have a cosy flirty day together. The dour, dull, depressing guy she kept describing was nothing like the man we saw on You've been Fired tonight. He was relaxed, able to laugh at himself and the most important point, even though he knew she was unpopular with the audience, he didn't try and score cheap points against her. I could never work with her as although she may get results, I couldn't trust her and would never be sure she was loyal or slagging me off behind my back. |
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I do worry about people's comedic tastes if you find Katie 'witty' .. mocking anyone from the north is hardly comedy or remotly funny, it's the kind of comments I'd hear from a rather dumb 12 year old.
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I think she is brilliant. I don't think she will win but she brings so much to the show
Her witty comments and attitude are fantastic to watch. Adam brought it upon himself meantioning her relationship with whatshisface Go on Katie! ![]()
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She's a horse!!!!!
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I agree that this lot of apprentices are pretty poor and its hard to imagine any one of them as the Apprentice.
However Katie, who does seem quite efficient and capable and astute in many ways has a real nasty streak. If she thinks the things she says on camera behind peoples backs are amusing, she is sadly lacking people skills. You do not degrade someone simply because they're from the North or have a 'inferior' job to you. She may think they are slow, inarticulate, out of their depth etc. but putting it down to where they come from and effectively branding all northerners as stupid is narrow minded, snobbish and unbelievably condecending. In her working life she will have to work with people from all over the country and if she treats them with the same patronising attitude she will be very unpopular. The way she spoke to Adam in the board room was incredible. I can only think SAS is keeping her on because of the TV value because although when you're in the board room its no holds barred and you go in for the kill, her whole argument was on personality and not business skills. She started the type casting of Adam as negative, boring etc. in the task where he was the gooseberry when she and Paul were trying to have a cosy flirty day together. The dour, dull, depressing guy she kept describing was nothing like the man we saw on You've been Fired tonight. He was relaxed, able to laugh at himself and the most important point, even though he knew she was unpopular with the audience, he didn't try and score cheap points against her. I could never work with her as although she may get results, I couldn't trust her and would never be sure she was loyal or slagging me off behind my back. You are right about what she says , but she is clearly saying it for effect. No one that smart thinks all northerners are thick. The question is why she says it and the only answer I can see is that she thinks there is a market for that character post apprentice. I wouldn't worry too much about loyalty. Few bosses have loyal workers - it doesn't matter as long as the boss actually isn't as hopeless as the staff think he is. |
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I like Katie as well she seems to be pretty good at the tasks. No one seems to have pointed out just how sexy she is. Yum Yum.
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I like Katie as well she seems to be pretty good at the tasks. No one seems to have pointed out just how sexy she is. Yum Yum.
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She's good on TV: entertainment - practically I don't think so.
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[b]I I don't condemn Katie for her looks or her class. I judge her against what she's there to do. I agree that her comment on Adam's roots were ill-judged and will probably cost her, but I like that she actually says what she thinks.
There's no one who doesn't have times when they think another is an idiot or out of their depth. (Adam was delusional in thinking anyone feared him as a main contender.) There's no one who doesn't on occasion want to smirk at having achieved an ambition. Katie doesn't disguise those feelings. Since I despise hypocrisy, it's a quality I value. Most of them have been delusional at times. Ghazal is delusional for thinking she could do the job, and Adam was obviously not as strong a contender as he thinks the others considered him to be. Simon is not as good as he thinks he is. Tre is funny, but another one who is not as good as he thinks he is. |
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She's an excelent villain. ......I keep expecting her to go 'bwah hah hah hah!' in her solo performances.
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Her witty comments and attitude are fantastic to watch. Adam brought it upon himself meantioning her relationship with whatshisface
I actually think that you are all secret subbies on the quiet, looking for a pitiless domme to punish you and crush your tender parts with her stilettoes!! (Go on, admit it - it's nothing to be ashamed of, lol!! Although I think that she'd probably be as crap at that as she is at everything else!!)