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Perhaps she could be in a show where the contestants get run over in a car sales lot? Or maybe something filmed on location in Yorkshire or Lancashire?
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Or a little uninhabited island off Shetland.
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I think we've had an Irish one, but some here thought she said orange.
I'm sure she said Irish. |
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She said how can you take someone seriously who is that orange. If she had said Irish rather than orange I think there would have - rightly - been more of a fuss made about it.
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She said how can you take someone seriously who is that orange. If she had said Irish rather than orange I think there would have - rightly - been more of a fuss made about it.
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From the official BBC site: Quote:
On Kristina - '...a complete pain in the arse and frankly far too orange to be taken seriously'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/apprentice/newsarticle/cid/67.html
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If she is calling people orange or taking the piss out of car salesmen all Katie's comments are highly offensive. Can you imagine her at school the head girl and chief bully.
I would rather mix with Adam's 'northern chums' than her lot! |
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Whoever dragged her up to be such a snob should be ashamed.
Katie really is far too full of her own self importance. I bet her ex-workmates are glad she left, if she is not worried about saying things on camera, I guess she bitched big time behind the backs of everyone she worked with. Anyone employing her in the future would be mad!
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I think we've had an Irish one, but some here thought she said orange.
I'm sure she said Irish. |
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that's a really interesting point about our reactions to Katies comments and how upset we get and how it is more 'OK' for Tre to make offensive remarks! Don't get me wrong, I think Katie is vile, but I guess it shows that we are all prejudiced in our own way.
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I wonder what Katie thinks of SAS who has no 'breeding?'
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So actually you hear it a lot then?
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It was just spite, though and seeing Adam as a big threat. She doesn't say anything about Ghazal (sp?) who is from even further north. At the same time, they can define lots of different accents within their own country. And attribute stereotypes to them. So, how many British people talk about'an American accent' rather than a Texan/Minnesotan/Ohian/etc accent? Arguably, Katie - as part of her snobbishness - can pick up the most miniscule difference between her accent and Adam's, and draw conclusions. To her, perhaps, Ghazal and Kristina are just 'Scottish' and 'Irish' respectively. Even if Scots and Irish people 'hear' it differently. Personally, as a Scot, Ghazal's accent carries a number of messages about where she grew up,education and so on. So what? The fact that I don't rate Ghazal has nothing to do with any of those things, so I wouldn't refer to them in saying why I feel she doesn't deserve to stay in the apprentice. But, if Katie had the same ear for Scottish accents as she does for English ones, I suspect we'd see some very daming soundbites about Ghazal - all based on where she comes from. |
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that's a really interesting point about our reactions to Katies comments and how upset we get and how it is more 'OK' for Tre to make offensive remarks! Don't get me wrong, I think Katie is vile, but I guess it shows that we are all prejudiced in our own way.
For the record, I find both Katie and Tre jaw-droppingly offensive. If I had to choose between them, I'd opt for Tre because he has shown his 'madman' side publicly as well as 'privately' (in video interviews) Up until this week's boardroom, Katie seems to have been as nice as pie publicly; but the video interviews have told a different story
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"On Kristina - '...a complete pain in the arse and frankly far too orange to be taken seriously'. "
Maybe I've spent too much of my (all of my?) life being from the West of Scotland... But describing someone as "far too orange to be taken seriously" is not just a statement about cosmetics... That there's fighting political talk Is Katie really so insular that this didn't occur to her when thinking up bitchy soundbites about her fellow would-be apprentices? |
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Only once have I ever encountered any form of anti-nothern comment.
A couple of months ago a friend and I were having a conversation about where we'd like to be in 10 years (some comment on TV sparked it) and I mentioned that I was planning to move to Manchester in a few years time. I was more than a little surprised when I received a loud grunt. I didn't ask him to explain it but the look of disgust on his face was shocking, and I knew exactly what he was thinking. Katie's comments were nothing short of racism. |
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Katie clearly thinks it's still 1987 and the so-called north-south divide still exists. Thing is, there are more yuppies in Leeds than London in Blair's New Britain. She's truly clueless.
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We moved south from Yorkshire a few years ago for job related reasons. The worst case of anti northernism I've come from was from a girl in my son's class at school who said she could never go out with anybody from 'the north'. My son was sad to discover such ignorance and prejudice at that level although he did say it made him think about what people feel when they are at the receiving end of real prejudice.
These little thoughtless comments that a lot of people dismiss as harmless can actually cause a lot of hurt. |
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"On Kristina - '...a complete pain in the arse and frankly far too orange to be taken seriously'. "
Maybe I've spent too much of my (all of my?) life being from the West of Scotland... But describing someone as "far too orange to be taken seriously" is not just a statement about cosmetics... That there's fighting political talk Is Katie really so insular that this didn't occur to her when thinking up bitchy soundbites about her fellow would-be apprentices? |
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I see where you're coming from with the Ulster Orange connotations, but Kristina's not from Northern Ireland, I don't think.
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I see where you're coming from with the Ulster Orange connotations, but Kristina's not from Northern Ireland, I don't think.
Kristina is not from Northern Ireland, but she did live there when she was married. |
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I just want to clarify that I never meant to sound as though I felt everyone in the south has Katie's mentality.
There are good and bad people in every area. Also it was the bit about the "northern chums" that really ticked me off. As for Tre's comments. It is odd, I wasn't offended by Tre's accent on the phone but when the guy sat next to him started doing his own version I found that pretty bad. I agree with someone else who said that Simon was just taking the piss out of Tre's 'fake' Asian accent. However, if Simon were speaking like that on the phone to that woman, that would be racist, as he's not Asian himself. On the other hand, Tre has said some very bigoted things about women and French people, which I can't believe he has gotten off so lightly for. |
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It's quite interesting. I have a couple of British-born and raised Indian friends, and they speak with British accents with friends, but then adapt a more asian accent when speaking to their parents for example.
I am Scottish, and my accent varies according to what part of the country the person I'm speaking to comes from. Doesn't stop there though, it's the same with English accents if I'm in England, and I once came home from Wetherby THINKING in a Yorkshire accent
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I am a total accent sponge.
I am Scottish, and my accent varies according to what part of the country the person I'm speaking to comes from. Doesn't stop there though, it's the same with English accents if I'm in England, and I once came home from Wetherby THINKING in a Yorkshire accent ![]() I think the most infectious accent is definately Liverpudlian. Spend a day with someone from Liverpool and you'll speak Scouse by the end of it! |
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Haha... my accent is a cross-breed between posh, London (estuary), West Country and Northern!
I think the most infectious accent is definately Liverpudlian. Spend a day with someone from Liverpool and you'll speak Scouse by the end of it!
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