Which is more than you've been magnaminous to do on the BB forum. I'm not replying or commenting on anything you have to say anymore as I find your posts tedious and for a newbie, very arrogant.

One point i'd just like to make is that there are men and women on this show. Why do we have to make any distinction between black, asian or white.

Hunnybabe, one of the points you originally made was about Rusty Lee being rejected. You seem to think this was because she was black. Personally, I'd have rejected her because she is incredibly annoying. Same with Alison from Big Brother, I had no problem that she was black, just that she was a boring idiot.

HERE HERE.

Did you miss my point? I DID ask someone from an ethnic group, I would not have been so condescending as to just presume how they would feel. And they also pointed out that there are plenty of black/Asian comedians around who DO still tell stereo-typical jokes. Sadly it seems humour is often overlooked as a subject which appeals to humans as individuals, not purely as ethnic groups. True equality can only come when we stop labelling people as a whole.

They do not refer to their people as monkeys and I am not sure what the relevance of your post is. Even if you were right (and you are not) it is not the same thing for example if an Irish person makes derogatory comments about Irish people so what? but if someone who is not Irish makes those same comments then it is viewed entirely in a different light and that is a fact. I stand by everything I said. Please move on now. An apology has already been made and accepted.

I don't know much about Rustie as it is a bit before my time when she was apparently famous. However I understand she is similar to Alison who I did not like much anyway as I said before. However I felt that Rustie was not chosen because she is black and FEMALE. That was my main point. As for Alison I thought she was OTT but many of the HM's apart from Alex Adele Spencer and Sandy did not agree! I was simply trying to say that when an entire group is missing it is unfair and is obvious. For example do you not think people would think it weird if no gay people had ever appeared on the show?

I find it all a bit tedious too and I wish people would move on like Bystander has done and so have I. Btw I did apologise to Swingaleg. He has moved on too.

Since you're accusation was made publicly for all to see perhaps you could post a link to the public apology so that we can see that too.

Hi all - as you can see I'm new here and all I'll say about this afternoons debate is - Unbelievable! and its not why I'm here.

Ah, but you didn't come in with all guns blazing accusing much loved FM's of things they hadn't done!!
So welcome. I hope you enjoy it here as much as 99% of us do

[quote]Originally posted by hunnybabe
I think the intent behind it was to basically stir up anger by implying that black and Asian women were monkeys and that is supposed to be why they would have an advantage in the jungle..........................................................................................................


Hang on a second; you appear to have done some selective reading of my post.
I explained my "joke" but I'll repeat it in case you've forgotten.

"The joke revolves around the perceived fact that black people can cope better with the hot climate of the jungle because of their historical origin in sub-Saharan Africa"

From that explanation you've gone on to say that I implied black people are monkeys to more or less stating that I actually said it.................how on earth did you arrive at that destination?

I can't believe you've actually used the word monkey in a sentence on here relating to this subject. You've planted the worst kind of thought in people's minds where no thought existed before. It's almost as though you had a different agenda to your original strident stand against racism. If I was a black person I would be spitting blood.

I have a pretty thick skin with regard the forums but in this case I find it somewhat upsetting that someone can plant thoughts in people’s heads which reflect a totally opposite definition of the kind of person I am. I don't even know what defence I have for that kind of character assassination on here.

Thanks for the welcome - and hopefully I will - anyway off home know and looking forward to tonights show - good luck to the croc's lets hope they don't get too scared.....

You don't need a defence bystander because those of us who have 'known' you, know that you are not racist. Out of interest, I just showed some of hunnybabes mails to my friend from the Sudan. He was horrified to say the least but wasn't surprised when I told him that she wasn't from an ethnic minority herself. I hardly dare show him the mail where she brought the 'monkey' business into the equation. Anyway don't get time to write often but felt this was a just cause...

When was that then, hunnybabe, I must have missed it

I've moved on because it is now obvious that you are not going to apologise, despite almost two pages on the BB thread from different FMs suggesting that you should do so immediately

Not only to me, but I think to Emzi as well

Backtracking and saying that you were mistaken is not an apology

Life's too short for this. FMs can make up their own minds about you.

Thank you London Girl and to all the friends who have defended me.
I've learnt my lesson on this one.

their people. Their People. Are you totally mad. Who are "their people". The most offensive thing I've found on this whole thread is the above comment.

I'm black. I find being clumped into a "people" as one of the biggest insults ever. That kind of talk harks back to the days when Blacks were being shipped out of Africa and sent into slavery. Black people were not put on this planet to be patronised by some half baked liberal who thinks that because they own a Bob Marley album that they are "at one" with "the people".


I'm not only black, I'm Scottish too. Every day I go into work, in London and my colleagues make jokes about the Scots. I have never once taken offence, usually I bat back with a joke against the English. I have an Asian friend. He and I call each other names that probably would be frowned upon if I repeated them here. But we can do that not because we are both minorities, but because we are friends.

Oh, and one more thing, I'm also a woman. Until I read your post it never once crossed my black, Scottish female mind that there were any minorities under-represented on IACGMOOH or any other reality shows.

Bystander - I was not around earlier to offer you my support, so wish to do so now...... I have had a few problems with my PC...

I have now now known you for some considerable time, I know you to be one of the finest, most decent and honest FMs to inhabit this space and I am genuinely appalled to see you so spitefully and repeatedly accused in this manner.

I think that we all have an important lesson to learn from this thread ( and from the 'Alison' thread on the Big Brother Forum) .... that a certain recurring nightmare is back!!!

The voice of reason.

I think you may be right since that FM was herself of mixed race - perhaps this is where the imagined slight came from.

I'm Not A Comedian Get Me Out Of Here !

Oh dear! Does this mean we have fallen out again? I have decided not to post on this thread anymore as it has gone beyond boring!

I am not mixed -race and I do not know why you presume to know any thing about me or my race for that matter! Or is it because you need to make it fit your theory that I am wrong for reporting Bystander in the first place? Do you believe that only black or Asian people would be offended by that post? How wrong can you get? Anyway like I said, I will not waste one more minute on this thread. Feel free to slag me off now as I will not be reading any more posts on this topic. See Ya!

Well thank gawd for that...right... back to normality. I was so NOT right about our Wayne being the comedian of the bunch. He's turned into the bore of the party. What's wrong with his arm does anyone know...

Thanks Eejay.

Loving it man! Wicked.